Mindless Acoustic Improv

[XLR]

True said:

I am curious what it would sound like with an acoustic bass line, and even perhaps a third guitar to duel with the first lead

Hi True. Good ideas. I'll tinker with it and see if anything comes. Maybe I can simulate a decent bass with my guitar like Sage97 did on his recent Bread tune. Thanks.

Chris said:

Did you just finger pick the parts or did you use a pick in this piece? And if you did use a pick, do you find it as hard as I do to change from one to the other after you've been playing one way for awhile?

On the rhythm gtr part I can't remember if I was just strumming with my fingers or if I was using the pick along with the little, ring and middle fingers in the rasgueados. The other part was with a flatpick. As far as the playing styles interfering with each other, well, I probably don't play the steel str often enough to experience that, heh-heh. Maybe a few minutes a day. The other way around... dunno... I guess I use just a very simple playing style with the steel string so I probably avoid problems by not pushing it so much compared to classical and flamenco. Thanks for listening Chris.

Thanks for the listen Tonio. No flute, huh? Let's do a collab anyway. Perhaps I can track a flamenco-style rumba with a click ( ) as a start...

Tim

 

[GoldFalcon]

Well, Tim, I'd tell you how freaking awesome you are but I am too busy cancelling tour plans in your area and burning my gear...





You get incredible texture and richness in everything I've heard of yours. It doesn't just enter my ears, it molests them.

 

[Nakatira]

well its a beautifull tune, very middle eastern sounding to me, or maybe spanish latin, yeah thats more like it latin.

a bit like one of my faves Ray manzarek.

the recording is also very good, very warm sounding and atmospheric.

I again you impress tim.

 

[Llarion]

Listening now... You make an etude sound like an opus. Or something. I'm on the link in the first post of the thread, and I think the rhythm part needs to dry out a tad. Rather than raw reverb, maybe try a very gentle spatial enhancer...

I hate you guys that play guitar really well. See? Look. This is me sitting over here, seething.


<seetheseetheseetheseethehatehatehatehate>

 

[SnakeDog5050]

Man, this is not just great playing, but your recording setup rules Great acoustic sounds.

(sorry, don't have any suggestions yet, I was just in awe of how good it sounded)

 

[XLR]

GoldFalcon said:

… tour plans in your area

Hey I’m still waiting to know your tour schedule so I can hear you play. I promise to leave your ears alone. So send me the Seattle area schedule, OK?

Atmospheric

Thanks Nakatira… it’s the room that helps, I think. I’m pretty excited about the room I have now. It’s the first I’ve had that didn’t cause problems with the sound when I move the mic’s back, which I like better than close mic’ing.

on the link in the first post of the thread, and I think the rhythm part needs to dry out a tad. Rather than raw reverb, maybe try a very gentle spatial enhancer...

Thanks for the listen Llarion. Heh-heh, actually there’s no reverb on the rhythm gtr! – but there are buzzing strings that are probably functioning as a makeshift spring reverb. I keep that gtr tuned a step low and usually play it with a capo for rhythm playing, but not here - it plays pretty cleanly with the capo. The room has a little natural reverb on loud staccato sounds and that may be in there a bit. But really nothing added to it. I wish I had a good spatial enhancer as I’d like to experiment with that. What do you use?

Snakedog, thanks for listening.

Tim

 

[Llarion]

Thanks for the listen Llarion. Heh-heh, actually there’s no reverb on the rhythm gtr! – but there are buzzing strings that are probably functioning as a makeshift spring reverb. I keep that gtr tuned a step low and usually play it with a capo for rhythm playing, but not here - it plays pretty cleanly with the capo. The room has a little natural reverb on loud staccato sounds and that may be in there a bit. But really nothing added to it. I wish I had a good spatial enhancer as I’d like to experiment with that. What do you use?

Tim

HAHAHAH really? Cool! the room must have helped then..

I use Waves, an ActiveX plugin that Audition sees. There is a nice, configurable Spatial Enhancer in the bundle. You have to be careful with it, because it sometimes sucks the mids out of the track if you're too aggressive...

 

[GoldFalcon]

Hey I’m still waiting to know your tour schedule so I can hear you play. I promise to leave your ears alone. So send me the Seattle area schedule, OK?

Will do as soon as it's solidified. My ears won't know what to do with themselves now.

 

[XLR]

I use Waves, an ActiveX plugin that Audition sees. There is a nice, configurable Spatial Enhancer in the bundle. You have to be careful with it, because it sometimes sucks the mids out of the track if you're too aggressive...

Thanks Phil. I've tried Ozone's stereo imaging, Wavelab's stereo enhancer and a couple others and didn't like them - but I don't like their other processors either, heh-heh. A couple yrs ago when I tried the demo of the full set of Waves plugs I was looking for compression, limiting and EQ, (which I ended up buying from them) but pretty much ignored other stuff. Since my 2 wk demo period was long ago used up, I might just commandeer my wife's laptop this weekend and give the Waves enhancer a test drive.

GoldFalcon, pls keep me posted.

Tim

 

[brandrum]

big acoustic music fan here.....I really enjoyed it!!

 

[beezelbubba]

Nice playing,nicely recorded!
Bravo!

 

[Llarion]

Thanks Phil. I've tried Ozone's stereo imaging, Wavelab's stereo enhancer and a couple others and didn't like them - but I don't like their other processors either, heh-heh. A couple yrs ago when I tried the demo of the full set of Waves plugs I was looking for compression, limiting and EQ, (which I ended up buying from them) but pretty much ignored other stuff. Since my 2 wk demo period was long ago used up, I might just commandeer my wife's laptop this weekend and give the Waves enhancer a test drive.

GoldFalcon, pls keep me posted.

Tim

My usual aresenal is the 10 band paragraphic EQ, the stereo imager, the C4 multiband compression, and the L10 UltraMaxximizer... Great, all..

 

[XLR]

brandrum, beezelbubba, thanks for listening and the kind words.

Phil said:

My usual aresenal is the 10 band paragraphic EQ, the stereo imager, the C4 multiband compression, and the L10 UltraMaxximizer... Great, all..

When I got my Waves masters bundle it was the first time I was able to do ANY processing without mucking up the sound, to my ear anyway. I wish that instead of meandering from things like the Dave Brown plugin set (~$70)... to Ozone (~$300)... to Waves (~$600) , I had just gone direct. Would have saved a lot of time and frustration. You've got an L10? Must be a beta test version of their alien science inspired MIB prototype, heh-heh.

Tim

 

[Toki987]

you got some intuitive noodling going on in there. Theres a really nice section that I think you could extract and develop well into a movement. Thats some nice tones for cuttin it raw.

 

[Llarion]

You've got an L10? Must be a beta test version of their alien science inspired MIB prototype, heh-heh.

Tim

Whoops, I should have said L1-Ultramaximazer+.. *d'oh!*

Didja try it out?

 

[Rick Shepherd]

Tim, you mind if I just hang out with you for the next, say, 100 years or so so I can learn a few things? Lol, very nice!

 

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Toki987 said:

section that I think you could extract and develop well into a movement

Thanks Toki, I’m interested in which passage you’re referring to. Can you give me a timing reference?

Phil said:

*d'oh!*

I say that a lot. Haven’t had a chance to try the spacial effect yet, but plan to soon.

Rick, thanks for the listen and the long term perspective, heh-heh.

Tim