Luthiers, what do you think of this?

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I don't know where they got their information from but that's not the world's first 3D printed guitar. There's another dude who made a couple electrics at least a year ago. I'll search out the link and post it when I find it.

As for whether or not plastic beats out wood, I would say that it certainly does with acoustics but electrics is a whole other story. And by the way, what do you think of Ovations? They're mostly plastic, if you didn't already know.

OK since you asked. They got there information from the source. They clarify in the article that others have made solid bodies using this method. If you bothered to read the article you would have known this making your statement redundant.

Moving on to your assertion that "As for whether or not plastic beats out wood, I would say that it certainly does with acoustics but electrics is a whole other story." I would like to know how you have come to that conclusion because you have it ass about face. If anything the materials used to construct an electric are more forgiving by the nature in which the sound is generated. A purely acoustic instrument is the sum of its parts and relies entirely on the materials it is made from to generate a sound.

A solid body guitar relies mostly on the pickup to interpret the vibration of the string. An acoustic relies on the soundboard and the enclosure to do so.

Ovations? Yeh I've handled a few over the years and worked on probably three or four hundred. I see fewer and fewer these days because on board and after market pickups have moved on in the last 10 years making their forte (reliable live performance) not so important. I have never heard one acoustically or recorded that can beat an average solid wood guitar. Ever....
 
And away we go....:laughings:

Do Ovations sound shitty because of their construction, or is it because all plugged-in-acoustics sound like crap and are used to play bad music?
 
And away we go....:laughings:

Do Ovations sound shitty because of their construction, or is it because all plugged-in-acoustics sound like crap and are used to play bad music?

We need you back in the Cave. What gives??
 
I'm not allowed in the cave because I make the butts hurt in there. They're too sensitive and weak minded for the gerg.

This I know. Digmon is b& too. It's pathetic, the place just aint the same and it's starting to reflect in the on topic stuff as well....

Anyhoo good top see you back here these past weeks.:thumbs up:
 
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Yeah, I heard it was fun before I joined.


Well screw it! I'm going to make my own Cave..... withhhhh blackjack! Annnnnd...hookers! In fact, forget the Cave!


 
Moving on to your assertion that "As for whether or not plastic beats out wood, I would say that it certainly does with acoustics but electrics is a whole other story." I would like to know how you have come to that conclusion because you have it ass about face.

Ovations? Yeh I've handled a few over the years and worked on probably three or four hundred. I see fewer and fewer these days because on board and after market pickups have moved on in the last 10 years making their forte (reliable live performance) not so important. I have never heard one acoustically or recorded that can beat an average solid wood guitar. Ever....

Ah. Yes indeed I did get that backwards. But there's no need to be douchy about it, man. You could have said something like "Dude, I think you've got that backwards." It's really not that hard to NOT be an ass.

And yes, In My Opinion, Ovations suck.
 
Ah. Yes indeed I did get that backwards. But there's no need to be douchy about it, man. You could have said something like "Dude, I think you've got that backwards." It's really not that hard to NOT be an ass.

And yes, In My Opinion, Ovations suck.

I resisted responding to you until you said this.... or something close to this as you then went and edited your response..

Whats this supposed to mean? I mentioned that acoustic Ovations are mostly plastic. This isn't me "parading an opinion". Have you played one or even held one in your hands? The entire backside is made of plastic. I know this because I owned one.

From Ovation's website:


And as for the statement I made about wood (which was clearly stated as an opinion) as the building material, I can be pretty certain as well because I MAKE solidbody guitars and I've tried several different materials, including cardbord, a giant piece of ABS plastic and various woods. I can post pics and make sound clips, if you still think I'm just "parading my opinions [about] without the background or knowledge to back it up".

All I did was point out the parts of your post that were dumb.

For the record there is a lot that is snake oil about the claims Ovation make about the materials they use.

Now lets see and hear those pics and clips you were on about because in the nicest possible way you are not coming across clearly in your posts so far.
 
I resisted responding to you until you said this.... or something close to this as you then went and edited your response..



All I did was point out the parts of your post that were dumb.

For the record there is a lot that is snake oil about the claims Ovation make about the materials they use.

Now lets see and hear those pics and clips you were on about because in the nicest possible way you are not coming across clearly in your posts so far.

I edited it to say In My Opinion, so that there would be no mistaking my words.

Here is a link to some pics for your perusal. I await your approval: My Flickr

That is not all of my work but a few that I've posted over the years for various reasons. As for the clips, I will make you some from the instruments that I still have or are in the process of finishing up - I just finished a custom Telecaster Deluxe that some here might like.
 
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...on board and after market pickups have moved on in the last 10 years making their forte (reliable live performance) not so important.
This is pretty much spot on. Ovations were the quintessential "bar guitar" for years and years. They play a bit easier than a "real" acoustic as well. I have a Legend and it's no Martin, Taylor or Gibson but it plays nice and sounds pretty decent through an amp or PA. Not something anyone is going to mic up but perfectly fine for live performance.
 
I edited it to say In My Opinion, so that there would be no mistaking my words.

Here is a link to some pics for your perusal. I await your approval: My Flickr

That is not all of my work but a few that I've posted over the years for various reasons. As for the clips, I will make you some from the instruments that I still have or are in the process of finishing up - I just finished a custom Telecaster Deluxe that some here might like.

OK, We shall leave it at that. I look forward to your future contributions.;)
 
3D printers are an amazing piece of technology. They've been proven invaluable for making prototypes, and one-off plastic thingies, but to think you could make a decent guitar with one is ridiculous. It is an impressive feat nonetheless to make a something on that scale even if it is useless.
I just finished a custom Telecaster Deluxe that some here might like.
I didn't see pictures of your tele on the flickr page. Please share.
 
This is pretty much spot on. Ovations were the quintessential "bar guitar" for years and years. They play a bit easier than a "real" acoustic as well. I have a Legend and it's no Martin, Taylor or Gibson but it plays nice and sounds pretty decent through an amp or PA. Not something anyone is going to mic up but perfectly fine for live performance.


"Not something anyone is going to mic up"?


When I read things like that, it tells me it comes from people who haven't much experience in professional recording studios.

Or when they say a certain guitar is no good for recording...or when they say a Rickenbacker is too jangly sounding....dumber than poop.:D

Only first hand experience, can cure crap statements like that.

It's funny, because it never stopped GOOD players from using them.

Lies like this, seem to invade every music forum.

Tons of good music was recorded on cheap, broken down, guitars...and other musical instruments.

To think otherwise, borders on insanity.:laughings:


Y'all should see all the crappy guitars being used in REAL studios.:thumbs up:

Even guitars with duct tape, and exposed dowels, etc.........;)


It's all in the player's brain, and his/her "Drive and Desire."
 
Y'all should see all the crappy guitars being used in REAL studios.:thumbs up:

I have. They sounded horrible. But I understand your point though. Most of this is subjective.

But if a guitar sounds like crap, you're just going to record crap.
 
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Tons of good music was recorded on cheap, broken down, guitars...and other musical instruments.

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True but very little of it "sounded" good. You have to listen past the crappy instrument and often limited recording facility.
 
I didn't see pictures of your tele on the flickr page. Please share.
Yeah, I usually only upload photos of guitars that I'm making either for other people or builds that I'm messing about with and looking for input. This tele was a project that I had put on hold for a while and I just finished it up a few days ago, though I think I'm going to swap out the pups with some Filtertrons or old Harmony mustache ones because I really like the way they look... also, I'm not a huge fan of the PAF sound. I didn't build the neck - I haven't the tools to do nice inlays yet. Here's the link.
 
You can make all the tools you need to do inlay work for pennies...
 
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