Les Paul Questions

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Get a custom. Black beauty - that's what I have and I love it dearly.
 
espskully said:
Get a custom. Black beauty - that's what I have and I love it dearly.
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The Black Beauty is a three pickup design, like Niel Young used to (maybe still does) play. Is that what you have?

I have a mid 70's black LP Custom. It's a little beat up, but it plays and sounds great. Better still, I got it for $350, but that was a long time ago.
 
foo said:
Lots of different opinions here - and here's another one.

If you are looking to put a *pro* studio together, you will not be taken seriously if your 'front-line' axe is a Gretsch.
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care to expand on that?
 
ggunn said:
Mebbe so, but I have seen photos of him with a Black Beauty (3 humbuckers) with a Bixby.
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i believe you. i'm sure he's played just about every type of guitar over the years.
 
AlfredB said:
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care to expand on that?
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is it necessary to have a "house guitar" in order to be considered a "pro quality" studio?

seems like if you're a musician who has the luxury of recording in a pro quality studio you should have your own kick ass sounding, studio ready equipment.
 
foo said:
If you are looking to put a *pro* studio together, you will not be taken seriously if your 'front-line' axe is a Gretsch.

It needs to be a highly-rated Gibson or Fender (or a boutique guitar like the PRS).
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I'm missing the part where he said he was putting together a *pro* studio. If he's really putting together a *pro* studio, then he would be sinking a few hundred thousand into it and getting a Gibson or a Fender or a PRS probably wouldn't pose a huge problem financially compared to the overall cost of the studio.

my2cents said:
is it necessary to have a "house guitar" in order to be considered a "pro quality" studio?

seems like if you're a musician who has the luxury of recording in a pro quality studio you should have your own kick ass sounding, studio ready equipment.
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If you really are a pro, then yes. But there aren't enough pros out there to go around, so a lot of business revolves around hobbyists and wanna-be's. My experience is that hobbyists have, at best, average equipment, and most wanna-be's have downright horrifying equipment.
 
sile2001 said:
If you really are a pro, then yes. But there aren't enough pros out there to go around, so a lot of business revolves around hobbyists and wanna-be's. My experience is that hobbyists have, at best, average equipment, and most wanna-be's have downright horrifying equipment.
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ok, so say you have a "pro" studio with great gear on hand. if you've booked a wannabe you'll probably hide your nice guitars. even if you let them play them, they wouldn't be able to make them sound good, so what's the point?

pro musicians don't need to borrow your nice guitars since they have their own nice equipment.

freshly signed big label bands (regardless of whether or not that can actually play) have the budget to buy their own super nice gear, which they do right after they 1) get back from vegas and 2) buy sports cars.

so, by process of elimination, pro studios keep nice guitars and other instruments on hand to encourage hobbyists to buy studio time?
 
Hey -

Thanks for all the replies.

I am definetly NOT putting together a PRO studio. It is just a project/hobby studio. I just want a guitar to have here for people to use (including myself) that is also an investment. I really don't like Fenders, so that is why I chose a LP - I will buy a used one, that will hopefully retain 100% of it's value if not more. Most of the replies have talked about purchasing a guitar - that is not really my intention - I am INVESTING in a guitar. That was the point of the question - which LP's are the best INVESTMENT for around $2500. Not the normal way most musicians look at purchasing a guitar, but that's my only option right now.
 
Every top tier studio Ive been in has a rash of vintage amps and guitars at their disposal. Sure, pro players have good gear themselves, but sometimes the producer is looking for a certian sound, and the studio needs to have EVERYTHING to cater to a producers whim. The poducer is really their client, not the artists.

A small studio owner will generally serve as producer himself, so it would also help to have decent equipment for artists. That way he is not limited to what a young artist may or may not own. You, as the small studio engineer/producer/owner are responsible for the sound coming out of your studio and you'd better do everything possible to make it the best you can.

Top level guitars and amps WILL make a poor player sound and play better. Not like Hendrix, but better than cheal poorly set up guitars and cheap amps.

H2H
 
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Hard2Hear said:
Every top tier studio Ive been in has a rash of vintage amps and guitars at their disposal. Sure, pro players have good gear themselves, but sometimes the producer is looking for a certian sound, and the studio needs to have EVERYTHING to cater to a producers whim. The poducer is really their client, not the artists.

A small studio owner will generally serve as producer himself, so it would also help to have decent equipment for artists. That way he is not limited to what a young artist may or may not own. You, as the small studio engineer/producer/owner are responsible for the sound coming out of your studio and you'd better do everything possible to make it the best you can.

Top level guitars and amps WILL make a poor player sound and play better. Not like Hendrix, but better than cheal poorly set up guitars and cheap amps.

H2H
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looking at it that way it makes a lot of sense. i'm unfortunately not accustomed to being in high level studios (though all the studios i have been in have a good deal of high quality equipment).

on a related note, do rental places generally have HIGH-end les pauls, etc.?
 
NL5 said:
Hey -

Thanks for all the replies.

I am definetly NOT putting together a PRO studio. It is just a project/hobby studio. I just want a guitar to have here for people to use (including myself) that is also an investment. I really don't like Fenders, so that is why I chose a LP - I will buy a used one, that will hopefully retain 100% of it's value if not more. Most of the replies have talked about purchasing a guitar - that is not really my intention - I am INVESTING in a guitar. That was the point of the question - which LP's are the best INVESTMENT for around $2500. Not the normal way most musicians look at purchasing a guitar, but that's my only option right now.
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you won't lose value on a les paul unless you get ripped off. my old les paul was used for a few years at gigs, had a stickers peeled off it (the pickguard, not the wood), had tuners replaced, etc., and i traded it for 50% more than i bought it for after only a few years. it probably doubled in value, since it sold for more than trade-in value. point being, don't worry about losing money. just make sure you buy one that isn't at the absolute high end of the price range.
 
man, gilmore has really chunked up since last time i saw him.
 
Hamer. I've been reading alot of well reasoned arguments against the quality of Gibsons lately. Not just sour grapes either. african versus honduran/low density verses high density mahogany wood. Finishes. The more you look into this stuff the more you realize Gibson ain't hit or miss just miss.
 
AlfredB said:
thats why I suggested a GRETSCH ... :D


they seem to be "pro" enough for a couple of guys you might have seen before:
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Stephen Stills, too.

But these guys always get promo guitars sent to them by all the big luthiers.

Don't get me wrong. I love Gretsch.
 
hixmix said:
Stephen Stills, too.

But these guys always get promo guitars sent to them by all the big luthiers.

Don't get me wrong. I love Gretsch.
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stephen stills surely gets a Gretsch promo guitar ...

he has his own signature model ... the "Stills White Falcon" ... :-)

Still's Falcon



Part of my personal history is that a $149.00 Gretsch BST1500 from 1980 made me put down and never pick up my LP ... YMMV ;)´



ps: sorry for kinda derailing the post
 
my2cents said:
is it necessary to have a "house guitar" in order to be considered a "pro quality" studio?
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No.
thats just silly.


-Finster
 
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