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Massive Master said:I suppose I should clarify... There's certainly a big difference between a Weiss unit and something more along the lines of an L2 plug-in (which is what we're dealing with most of the time when we're chatting about limiters on the forums...). I certainly take advantage of digital limiting - At least as a safety net to catch and nasty peaks that might have made it past the chain.
When I need to drive something into the limiter though, I just prefer the analog route most of the time... The limiter on the (Crane Song) STC-8M has an attack of around 40 microseconds - Plenty fast to protect from overs, but not a true brick-wall... I like the "organic give" it has with the signal (and the attack mod is the shite!). But I certainly don't have anything against nice digital units.
Although I might have a problem with some of the people making adjustments on them...
Well we're getting closer to an agreement
The L2 plug has been compared to the hardware unit several times using null tests with the hardware unit and has come out clean. Software is software. So I still don't agree that the L2 plug is bad, just people abusing the sh*t out of it is bad.
I've used the limiting feature on the STC-8, as well as the Weiss DS-1, and others. The L2 (when used properly) still gives the best results for rock and hip-hop. Actually I should say the combination of them does. I was never fond of the L1, very harsh. Of course I wish that we didn't need any limiters as they all cause distortion in one way or another, but that's life as long as there are limits in dynamic range and most people want to be heard, LOUDLY!