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It's already started, this thread is a symptom of it.

No, please, put me on ignore. I don't want to bother you any more than I already have.

WOW. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Tell me, Mr. Clown Mofo, when is the last time that you actually contributed ANYTHING to this BBS other than being a smart ass? You're so proud of making an industry out of being a smarmy smart ass here that you actually call yourself a clown mofo.

And as far as talking to someone less experienced, how the hell ELSE is it supposed to go? It's only the less experienced who need to ask the questions that are asked around here and the more experienced who have the chops to provide answers. That's how it works. That's why this BBS is here, in case you haven't noticed.

The only time you guys think someone like me is being a smarmy smart ass is when the answer to your question is one you didn't want to hear.

If you guys had your way, 2 + 2 would equal whatever you want it to equal, because to say that the answer is 4 is either just someone being a smarmy start ass for not letting you make up your own answer, or being a bully for insisting that 5 cannot be the answer no matter how much you wish it were.

G.

The funny part about all of this Glen, is that I actually learn a lot from you when you get right down to it. Your site is awesome. I've read through it and use it as a reference all the time. You know your stuff, I don't think anyone is trying to say otherwise. Same for Miroslav.

But sometimes the feeding frenzy from you on a dude who just don't know any better is hard to watch.

I just can't STAND it when you try and lay the smackdown on people who don't deserve it.
 
he does have a excellent website...and he cuts a fine figure of a man too....
 
The funny part about all of this Glen, is that I actually learn a lot from you when you get right down to it. Your site is awesome. I've read through it and use it as a reference all the time. You know your stuff, I don't think anyone is trying to say otherwise. Same for Miroslav.

But sometimes the feeding frenzy from you on a dude who just don't know any better is hard to watch.

I just can't STAND it when you try and lay the smackdown on people who don't deserve it.

amen. amen. amen. amen.
 
I think probably that's going to become pretty close to how most people will feel now that technology has begun to allow for it.

The reality of it is that the quality of your final will totally depend on how much effort you've spent learning how to do it and how much money you've spent on the equipment and necessities to make it happen.

And in some cases...the quality will be low. The sound will be muddy...the CD will have a sticker on the front. And the music will not be good.

I think, however, the opposite is also completely possible (not only that but I've seen it happen!). The mixing can be excellent, the CD can look fantastic, and the music will be awesome.

Which is pretty much EXACTLY how things have always worked. The only difference is that it was always so expensive that the ones that sucked never made it through the whole process because they didn't have a way to get their stuff into the studio (via a record label most often).

Now though, those people that wouldn't get a record deal...will saunter off and try to do it themselves. Which some would have you believe will ruin the MUSIC.

I don't think so. I just think that there will be MORE music...and that it won't always be good.

Which isn't really all that scary.

doesn't scare me ..... the best art comes from the unwashed masses.
I, personally, think that the common man having access to this technology is a great thing and leads to some awesome music. Some crap too but I hear great things all the time that would have never existed otherwise.

HOWEVER, in the interests of full disclosure it must be pointed out that I'm not a typical case.
I bought my first 3340 in 1969 (still have it) and I've been recording constantly ever since. And I've always made my living as a musician and piano tuner. The studio was always just for fun although I have earned minor amounts of money from it. But I have hundreds of reels of recordings I've done and lots of hard drives sitting around with crap on them.

So I have an unusually high number of hours of doing all the things involved in recording.
As it stands right now, I record with a different intent than most of ya'll. Everything I record is simply some musical idea that popped into my head and I'm just curious to see what it would sound like.
Musical sketches if you will.
So I'm after the very first take that doesn't suck.
Very few of my takes are more than 2nd or 3rd takes ..... often 1st takes.
I don't care about volume since they're not for commercial release and I hate compression except when it's absolutely needed to sit a voice or sax properly in the mix.
And I've been recording so long that even my quickest efforts sound decent and that's enough for me. I use to take recordings as far as I could quality-wise, but now I don't care that much ..... I'm just trying out musical ideas and my primary focus is on live skills.

I think in the next year or so I'll probably decide to do a CD for real and I'll take much more care when that time comes.
Will I get it mastered? I really don't know.
I'd be more likely to study up on the subject and do it myself since I totally trust my ears. I've heard plenty of 'mastered' CD's that sounded like crap. Even big names. I'm sure I can do better than that.

Having said that ....... 40+ years of recording and playing do give me some background knowledge that newbies don't have.
Ultimately the ears are the single most important part of this equation and that's something that takes time to train.
 
but I dont have to explain myself to you, you and miroslaver are the ones at fault here...Ill refrain from giving you a good hiding in one of the public forums but if the pair of you want to join me in the cave I have some rather crude and funny observations to make at the expense of your moustache...
:)

Dude...really? His moustache???? That's kinda lame.

Not for nothing but I'm not just "making fun" of Glen or Miroslav. I just don't like when they react they way they do to people who don't know much about this stuff.

Don't just pile on because it's fun.
 
Dude...really? His moustache???? That's kinda lame.

Not for nothing but I'm not just "making fun" of Glen or Miroslav. I just don't like when they react they way they do to people who don't know much about this stuff.

Don't just pile on because it's fun.


lame? really?? man i thought it was the most cutting & cruel posting in the entire history of teh intrawebs :eek: lol


beat it shorty or Ill mock your bald patch!
 
lame? really?? man i thought it was the most cutting & cruel posting in the entire history of teh intrawebs :eek: lol


beat it shorty or Ill mock your bald patch!

tell a person when they are wrong but don't insult them...
 
hahaha lighten up Francis...it was a joke, i have no observations on moustaches..Glands or otherwise


bloody humourless n00bs :rolleyes:


:D
 
doesn't scare me ..... the best art comes from the unwashed masses.
I, personally, think that the common man having access to this technology is a great thing and leads to some awesome music. Some crap too but I hear great things all the time that would have never existed otherwise.

HOWEVER, in the interests of full disclosure it must be pointed out that I'm not a typical case.
I bought my first 3340 in 1969 (still have it) and I've been recording constantly ever since. And I've always made my living as a musician and piano tuner. The studio was always just for fun although I have earned minor amounts of money from it. But I have hundreds of reels of recordings I've done and lot's of hard drives sitting around with crap on them.

So I have an unusually high number of hours of doing all the things involved in recording.
As it stands right now, I record with a different intent than most of ya'll. Everything I record is simply some musical idea that popped into my head and I'm just curious to see what it would sound like.
Musical sketches if you will.
So I'm after the very first take that doesn't suck.
Very few of my takes are more than 2nd or 3rd takes ..... often 1st takes.
I don't care about volume since they're not for commercial release and I hate compression except when it's absolutely needed to sit a voice or sax properly in the mix.
And I've been recording so long that even my quickest efforts sound decent and that's enough for me. I use to take recordings as far as I could quality-wise, but now I don't care that much ..... I'm just trying out musical ideas and my primary focus is on live skills.

I think in the next year or so I'll probably decide to do a CD for real and I'll take much most care.
Will I get it mastered? I really don't know.
I'd be more likely to study up on the subject and do it myself since I totally trust my ears. I've heard plenty of 'mastered' CD's that sounded like crap. Even big names. I'm sure I can do better than that.

Having said that ....... 40+ years of recording and playing do give me some background knowledge that newbies don't have.
Ultimately the ears are the single most important part of this equation and that's something that takes time to train.

I think you're probably an example of the type of person that CAN make something work with a home recording setup. It still takes years of learning and expertise...but the intent is different.

I think the whole idea of "musical intent" has been somewhat lost over the past couple decades. A lot of artists get sucked up into the machine and inevitabley don't make it. Even though they might really have something good to share with the world. And I'm hoping that the ability to do what you want with your music, without outside influence (be you a band, or an independant artist) is a GOOD thing. And no...I STILL don't think I need to send my music off to a mastering studio to make a good sounding album.

But if it's going to be done yourself...it's not going to be a simple task.

People in here keep wanting to imply that I think music and music production can be easy...that's crap. I know it isn't, but it ain't impossible...and that's the hope that hundreds of thousands of newbies around the world are hanging their hats on.

Kinda like Fala...who I sincerely believe just likes to work with music.

Just like I've been saying all along. If what you make sounds good, I'll buy it and listen to it. If you want to call it "mastered" then go right ahead.

It's still going to take just as much effort as it always has to produce something that actually sounds good. You, for example, have a lot of years of experience behind you. I'm just glad you don't have to deal with all of the stuff that a lot of musicians have had to deal with in the past...finding a label...paying out...being told what and how to make your music.

You've just got complete control over it. And that...is awesome.
 
hahaha lighten up Francis...it was a joke, i have no observations on moustaches..Glands or otherwise


bloody humourless n00bs :rolleyes:


:D

well hey, tone is something lost within the interwebs, hard to figure out sometimes, and can cause some rather heated arguments, as we have seen right here (although not the only cause obviously)
 
thats why we use use these wee thingys :)


see ;)


miro, Glen and myself have had our run ins before...on pretty much the same subject so it tends to be slightly more personal looking..

but in truth I think they're both wonderful people, and without the beatles we wouldnt have the guitar...lol


anyway night time here, enjoy your thread dissection...oh and Glens the only one out the two with any knowledge


and a fine 'tache ;)
 
I think you're probably an example of the type of person that CAN make something work with a home recording setup. It still takes years of learning and expertise...but the intent is different.

I think the whole idea of "musical intent" has been somewhat lost over the past couple decades. A lot of artists get sucked up into the machine and inevitabley don't make it. Even though they might really have something good to share with the world. And I'm hoping that the ability to do what you want with your music, without outside influence (be you a band, or an independant artist) is a GOOD thing. And no...I STILL don't think I need to send my music off to a mastering studio to make a good sounding album.

But if it's going to be done yourself...it's not going to be a simple task.

People in here keep wanting to imply that I think music and music production can be easy...that's crap. I know it isn't, but it ain't impossible...and that's the hope that hundreds of thousands of newbies around the world are hanging their hats on.

Kinda like Fala...who I sincerely believe just likes to work with music.

Just like I've been saying all along. If what you make sounds good, I'll buy it and listen to it. If you want to call it "mastered" then go right ahead.


Guided by Voices, Bee Thousand. Album sounds terrible but is considered a masterpeice, why? Because the music is so awesome and because they have the uncanny ability to make the "flaws" in their recording become one of the things that really holds the listeners to the album.

"Good" is a very subjective word.
 
"Good" is a very subjective word.

Exactly.

On the other hand there are gauranteed to be thousands of people that hate that album.

I think we'll see more examples of these kinds of works that make it big without having gone through the "old fashioned" process of studio based tracking, mixing and mastering, all overlooked by a producer who works for a company. It's a change that millions of amatures around the world are looking forward to.

I think it's unfortunate that it will mean that studios will continue to close because of it. Which, I STILL think is the cause for a lot of the angst over the topic of professional vs. amature...fear for the future of the studio proffessionals and music industry. I think, however, that fear is unfounded, since good music is always good music.

But the smart ones will learn how to do their work without having to have a "studio" in the traditional sense of the term. They'll just find new ways to use their expertise to do the same things they've always done. Make good music.
 
Guided by Voices, Bee Thousand. Album sounds terrible but is considered a masterpeice, why? Because the music is so awesome and because they have the uncanny ability to make the "flaws" in their recording become one of the things that really holds the listeners to the album.

"Good" is a very subjective word.

true also for other discs .. so
 
Exactly.

On the other hand there are gauranteed to be thousands of people that hate that album.

I think we'll see more examples of these kinds of works that make it big without having gone through the "old fashioned" process of studio based tracking, mixing and mastering, all overlooked by a producer who works for a company. It's a change that millions of amatures around the world are looking forward to.

I think it's unfortunate that it will mean that studios will continue to close because of it. Which, I STILL think is the cause for a lot of the angst over the topic of professional vs. amature...fear for the future of the studio proffessionals and music industry. I think, however, that fear is unfounded, since good music is always good music.

But the smart ones will learn how to do their work without having to have a "studio" in the traditional sense of the term. They'll just find new ways to use their expertise to do the same things they've always done. Make good music.

Well! with bands like bomb the music industry, d.i.y. labels like plan-it-x and quote unquote, and the slow rise of lo-fi, we are finding more and more music that is being put out and is not completely up to "proffessional" standard. and that can be charming.

Never recording in a studio. Never want to. My little cassette to digital based set-up will serve me just fine.

Make good music. amen.
 
Monkey before you like my mastering ..... you send me an email with congratulation .... ???!?

I do not understand if you liked my work now not like because people of this forum you says is a wrong?
it's important that you do like not the other people will go elsewhere

I never liked your work....I just said it was different than anything I would ever have achieved....despite your broken english fala...I never said what I thought you did was good

I just thought you were some young punk having a go.

If you wanna say that I am wrong and that you are indeed a mastering engineer...then I'll tell you straight old soldier...

Your mastering SUCKS
 
fala misunderstood and did not say that he was an expert...



who brought the dick?

mokey i ask read your last email for you privacy can i write here ??

you said i liked second version.

not i said good but "like"
 
I never liked your work....I just said it was different than anything I would ever have achieved....despite your broken english fala...I never said what I thought you did was good

I just thought you were some young punk having a go.

If you wanna say that I am wrong and that you are indeed a mastering engineer...then I'll tell you straight old soldier...

Your mastering SUCKS

I don't think he said he was a mastering engineer...at all.

And "your mastering sucks" may be true. But it's probably not going to help the dude out at all. If you don't want to help him...don't say anything. Just a thanks and be on your way. But even a cursory. "I didn't like it, here's why." would probably be more productive.

Would you be willing to post the song he worked on? He asked you if you would. That way we could all take a look and actually turn this thread into something useful. Hell maybe someone who can do a "real" mastering job can show us what one should look like.
 
Post away fala...post whatever you like...I got nothing to hide...everyone can see what you did to my song...

If my memory is right I never said the following:

Fala, you made my song better
Fala, have you ever mastered any Beatles stuff
Fala how did you manage to increase the sound of the kick by 200db without making it sound awful?
Fala you are a mastering god
Fala, though you are 24yo or thereabouts, you have the skills of a veteran
Fala you made my song so loud...how did you make it not suck
Fala you're a genius
Fala your broken english = good results
Fala I put all my trust in you
Fala you da man
Fala how do you manage to produce such awesome results for so little cost?
Fala I love what you did to my mediocre tune
Fala you turned my song from dirt shit into gold ingots
Fala you are a mastering genius
Fala you rule

Anyway....please post up my email to you for everyone to see

No worries
 
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