How about a SINGER'S FORUM?

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How about "vocals extraordinare" like how Rod Stewart was credited on
the first Jeff Beck Group album? Fan of his Faces/early Mercury records BTW.

Chris
 
After about 10 or more years of playing in bands, and never finding a singer who was reliable, available, able to sing in tune, able to learn songs in a reasonable amount of time, not suffering from LSD (lead singers' disease...), a "normal" person who had likeable characteristics, had a sense of direction, etc., I became quite frustrated. It was out of this frustration that I finally said, "screw it.... I'll do it...."



same thing for me just 2 years instead of 10, i'm the lead songwriter in all the bands im in, I've had singers that refuse to learn any songs, singers who will only do songs that they write but never wrote a song or want to, singers who have cost us gigs (my last one cancelled out on 5 consecutive gigs, and skipped one without telling us that SCREWED US!) and all that other crap. i had always done backups in bands and i finnally said exactly what Chris T said, "screw it..... i'll do it...." and its been goin good ever since








IMO there are to many people with the name chris! it gets confusing.:):):)
 
Axis said:
i finnally said exactly what Chris T said, "screw it..... i'll do it...." and its been goin good ever since

Funny how some of us get into some of these things, eh? Good for you, Axis!! Keep at it!! :D I've been glad I did too, only I wish I had done it years previous like you are.

Chris
 
How did I get into singing?
I grew up traveling on a bus every weekend with my dad's gospel group. I knew every word to every song and they caught me singing one of their songs on the back of the bus one night and the next night I was on stage singing the song with the whole group.
Who inspired me to sing?
This may be funny or weird to some of you, but it is true. God inspired me to sing. We believe (and some of you may also believe) that when you give your life to God, He will call you to do something and give you the talent or ability to do it. For me it is telling people about Him through singing. My group has been together now for 3 years. The first year we did approx. 15-20 bookings, the second year 20-25, this year we have done 45 bookings and still have a few months left. The smallest crowd we have had is around 50, the largest was approx. 1200. We usually average about 300.
 
How did I get to singing?

Well that's a crazy story... I used to sing and play guitar with friends at parties quite often. And I was totally into the rockabilly thing that time. Always dancing and jumping around like crazy... I went to a big commercial party, and had quite some beer. There were at least 2000 people there. Suddenly the band did a rather long rockabilly number. While I was dancing, the singer asked me to dance upstairs. With closed eyes up there I danced and sang as loud as I could. Suddenly it sounded like me, and opening my eyes I saw that the singer held that mic to me... He was really a cool guy! I did that medley for some 10 gigs or so and then suddenly had my own rockabilly band. I had even known some of the guys before but simply didn't dare to sing in a band...

Though I'm much more an egomaniac, and HATE to have someone else singing on stage besides me (with some exceptions...), I try to give back what I recieved and encourage people to sing as often as I can...

Now with my punk rock band, our audience varies from 10 to 50 listeners :( - what have I done wrong (it really IS true!)

:D

aXel
 
How did I get into singing?

On my grandmother's knee. As a baby. She would move my arms and legs, to "with your feet you tap tap tap.."etc.

Later my sister and I had voice training from a fiercely ambitious old lady who used to sing on a cruise liner. She entered us into competitions, and more or less planned our careers for us. Of course we rebelled. I became effecrively silent for twenty years (only singing to the children and the dog) and my sister stopped completely, apart from the odd hymn at church. A shame really, that quite close friends literally went to the grave not even knowing I could sing at all.

My daughter got into musical theatre, and I began to coach her a little until I could find her a teacher. She was getting good, and people were saying things like my role was to support her endeavours. Meanwhile, I was stuck without a career of any sort, feeling depressed and worthless, as I'd been at home caring for my autistic son all this time. Eventually something must have erupted inside me, and I went to Stephanie's voice coach and asked her to teach me. She asked what I wanted to get out of lessons, and I said I wanted to make money. She wasn't phased by this at all, she just said we'd work to that end.

As I began to recover my lost and forgotten technique, I felt I was coming back to life. But it was hard to get anyone interested in taking me on. Young people have networks and all sorts of support when they're starting out. I suppose I could have joined a choir, but I wanted to sing solo from the outset - a ridiculous ego, I know. With more than half my life gone, I couldn't afford to wait around! It took one of the biggest acts of courage of my life to start busking: doing Broadway Standards at first, but in time I was performing all manner of Classical music as well. I do reasonably well, shoppers and tourists like it, people hear me and book me for parties etc. If anyone gets stage fright, they should try standing up, uninvited, without a mike, in an open street, and effectively say, "Well here I am THIS IS WHAT I DO" - a sort of sink-or-swim cure for nerves.

Besides busking, at the moment I'm working with a guitarist on a jazzy/cabaret type of act - a new departure for me, and quite exciting: a much freer style of singing, and a new learning challenge.

My husband thinks what I do is great. Unfortunately the rest of my family is very damning; my mother-in-law says that she is devastated, I have dishonoured my dead mother's memory and no one will marry my daughter as a consequence of my busking. At least the audiences I get on the street are more appreciative. Sometimes when she's at home my daughter joins me: we do operatic duets, which are brilliant fun. We haven't told Grandmama.

I hope this singing forum continues.

Sarah
 
Welcome to the board, Sarah. This motley collection of good ol' boys, and home recording in general, needs a greater touch from those of the feminine persuasion, it makes them more polite (sometimes). Especially welcome are those, like yourself, who are passionette and articulate. So tell us more-do you record, and do you write songs? If you don't, something inside me tells me there's a storyteller inside there trying to get out. Thanks for sharing some of it with us.-Richie
 
I traveled with a R&B band for a good while. One day the billfold dude said I was going to have a mic so could sing and play bass. One night after a gig I asked "how everybody elses mic has a cord on it and mine don`t?" he said "yours is the kind that don`t need one" . So kept on singing in that sm57 for months before I finally left the band to other things.
 
I guess I was started ineutero, while my mom listened to operatic music, she swore that outside the womb she could hear me singing,(I was really screaming for her to turn that shit down).

Later at birth, I came out screaming , so I ran away that week and the joined the merchant Marines, this was the late 60s, so they were desperate and didnt mind hiring an infant. After one trip across the Atlantic I had ditched the job and found myself in europe.

After crawling arround europe for a few months, I had found myself after joining the alice cooper band. There wasnt much singing involved but I was carried arround stage by my hair durring the Billion Dollar babies bit. and the rest is Rock'n Roll history.
 
I remember the first time I sang a solo, it was in our small church and I was seven years old. Man, that was fifty years ago. I didn't sing after I grew up, until I grew up again, and went back to the church.

I now sing bass in a Southern Golpel Quartet. We are not big time and we probably have about 25 gigs a year. performing to groups of 25 to 300 people. I use to get nervous but don't anymore. But I sure would If I had to sing lead as I have a heck of a time remembering words.

Any recomendations for a condenser, performance mic. My voice is a little too bright for a gospel bass singer. Know of any that might darken it a bit.

Larrye
 
Thank you, Richard for your kind words. I've noticed that some of the threads here are rather gladiatorial.

I've tried writing my own songs, but they're crap. I find myself listening to Sondheim or Bach or whatever, and bin my efforts. You're right about the story-telling bit, though. So perhaps there might be a balladeer inside!

I do record myself a lot, but in a website run by and for serious recording engineers I'd be a bit shy to parade my efforts. I've a very basic mike (Sennheiser) and some free recording software, that's all. My guitarist friend however has all the gen on recording (at least, so he tells me) and the plan is to record some demos, so watch this space.

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying other peoples' tales in this thread, so I'll shut up.

Sarah
 
Wow!
What great personal stories.

Sarah, yours is particulary compelling.
If it's any help, the biggest musical influence of anyone I met in person was Ted Hawkins, a "busker" who sang on Venice Beach.
He was a great singer, yet you wouldn't know from his humble
manner that he was a well know musician in Europe, playing to
thousands! And a fine songwriter to boot.
Wish you all the best in your "second" life in singing!
(you sound a little too hard on yourself-typical of artists!)

Chris

P.S. Larrye, I'm about to receive a Beyer M88TG dynamic
microphone, and I have the same situation on my mid-range
singing bass. Will report back how well it works.
The M88 model is one of the best dynamic mikes ever made.
(they typically run about $200+ used)
 
Gospel,
Our group is the Bright Gospel Quartet.
I liked your web page. I think family groups sound great as the voices are usually closely matched. I bet yours is really that way as it appears you have a twin brother.
Send me an e-mail and I will tell you more as I bet alot of the folks probably don't want to hear us chat.:D

Larrye
 
let's do it the rock & roller way:

ARE YOU GUYS STILL WITH ME?

THEN SING:

I WANT A SINGERS FORUM!!!



cheers

six
 
larrye, just got the Beyer 88TG, should be able to try some bass
parts by tomorrow or sooner.

How many of you practice on a regular basis?
And what warm-ups and/or exercises are your favorites?
I'll chime in with some of mine after a few responses.

Chris
 
i practice on a pretty regular basis, My favorite warm up is the gargling water thing, you know where you put water in your throat and go through your octave range, although i don't do it much now with the water shortage :)! !
 
My sister, myself, my sister's friend and her sister used to do warm up singing sessions at old Miss Allured's house on Saturday mornings, and often we didn't appreciate the privilege. One day my sister and her friend got sick of scales, so when Miss Allured's back was turned they moved her clock forward by about twenty minutes. The old lady was devastated when shown the "time", and fretted that our dinners would be cold. The two big girls had to rush round the house altering all the other clocks so as not to be rumbled. I don't know if Miss Allured ever realized the truth.

Forty years on, I'm still doing the scales Miss A set for us, and they've held me in good stead - though I did warn the students who've just moved in next door that I'm a singer who has to do a daily practice. They haven't complained (yet).

Apart from scales I recommend sustained humming in the shower.
Plus, I've a sort of one-size-fits-all warm-up session at http://mysite.freeserve.com/parloursongs

Sarah
 
Larrye, the M88TG sounds A-1 for bass singing.
It's hypercardiod pattern is very tight though, so you have to be careful to
be on-axis (no pun intended!).

Will have time to add some tips/hints later today.

Chris
 
I totally agree with the idea of a singers forum...that would be great!!! I love to sing. I sing primarily lead and some backup in the Christian band that we have. We play alternative and contemporary music and some ballads.

Would love to see a singers forum...you get my vote!

God Bless!
 
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