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I just purchased the Yamaha AW1600 workstation.I would like to take it around to record bands (a mobile studio of sorts to help pay for this thing).This unit can record 8 simultaneous tracks.If I just mike the room with 8 mikes,I would get a good 'Live' sound??????and if so,type of mikes should I buy ?????
 
Mic the room with 8 mics? That maybe a little excessive. The best way to get a good live sound is to do a simple X Y stereo recording. You only need two mics for that. I have never used more than four, but I opt for two.

As far as mics go, I would look into getting a matched stereo pair. They will treat you right in a lot of cases. Rode makes a nice set, the NT5's. They are decent for how much they cost. There are many other choices as well.
 
I think it depends on A) how good the band sounds live together and B) what kind of sound you're trying to achieve.

If the band or room sounds bad to begin with, i.e. some instruments louder than others, vocals not loud enough, etc... I usually use more mics. Also, if I want a tighter sound than a few mics I will use more. I like 2-3 mics out front that get the sound of the band live. If I need them, I will add mics to whatever instrument needs it. Vocals at the places I used to record were never loud enough, so I generally will take those from the house board. I've gotten really good results with very few mics and a lead from the board for vocals.

I also really like micing up each instrument, or at least most of them. Working with a three piece with one vocalist is simple with only 8 tracks, but the more you have the harder it will be if you can sum your channels. This usually sounds cleaner, but without a crowd mic it isn't very fun to listen to, in my opninion.

Two different ways to do the same thing. But like I said, they sound different and have varying levels of difficulty.

Rory
 
It would be a lot better to mic everything up and take a feed from the mixer.
 
i agree with the feed from the mixer... should be able to get 8 channels.. then you can mix it to your taste... maybe an audience mic if you have the channels (and the audience likes the band) :)
 
Yeah, I would definitely go with hooking up to their mixer if they mic their stuff up. if they don't mic their stuff (wtf?!), then bring your own stuff and do it.

I like to mic it pretty much like doing a quick live studio recording:
Drums: L&R Overheads / Kick / Snare
Guitars: mic amps/cabs
bass: get a direct feed or mic amp/cab
vocals: get a direct feed from the mixer for sure

An audience mic would help a lot in getting the feel of actually being there. Just put that where it'll pickup most of the crowd clapping and stuff. fade it out when the band starts and back in when they stop.


I've got an AW16G and love it. the AW1600 looks even better and should do fine for this situation. I've wanted to use my G for live recording, but I use it at the home studio and don't want to get it all smokey like everything else.
 
I just bought a 1600 too. My 16 has been so stable and sounds good that I decided to go for to upgrade for the 24 bit ability and to hook it up to Cubase.

I do remember when the G baffled me in the beginning but once you understand it, it is very simple to operate.

I usually use two mics but I have used up to four.
 
kahuna said:
I just bought a 1600 too. My 16 has been so stable and sounds good that I decided to go for to upgrade for the 24 bit ability and to hook it up to Cubase.

I do remember when the G baffled me in the beginning but once you understand it, it is very simple to operate.

I usually use two mics but I have used up to four.
What kind of mikes when you use only two ?
 
treblemaker said:
What kind of mikes when you use only two ?
Audio Technica AT4060's. I also have used AT 3035's with good results.

I also normally use a FMR RNP preamp.

The G's preamps aren't bad unless you crank them right up, so you would get away without a separate pre.

Check out http://forum.dijonstock.com/ for help with the Yamaha.
 
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