each day, the front page has 90% of the threads started with names I've never seen!!

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Let's see....

More and more participants, growing community

Greater diversity

Everyone focused on the music

The more creative and striving stuff as well as stuff by longer-term participants gets more attention


....Are these BAD things????
 
tell you what...

the first time i visited this board it had like 20 members and hardly any posts in it. i didnt stick around at that time, because i didnt see any interaction going on.

when i came back a few years later (and created a new user account b/c the one i had used originally appeared to be deleted), the board was going gangbusters. so i stayed.

in general i would say the growth of the community serves the world in a positive way, even if it subtracts from the once "pub-like" atmosphere that existed prior.

-alex
 
Re: Too wierd

coloradojay said:
No Way! I just agreed today to do a show with a 3 piece band and that's one of the covers they do! I really dig the diversity of stuff they are doing from Folk to Funk to Reggae, some cool originals too, so I might stick with them for a while.

I still haven't posted anything to the Clinic because my setup is pretty inadiquate, I'm still just learning, and I'm too much of a perfectionist.

The show isn't until May 1st, but if you want I'll shoot you that track off of the board recording. The lead singer is a professional writer too, so I think he really feels that song deep in his soul.
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:cool: by all means..Please do :)
 
I sure hope you look in other forums for familar names. Some of us don't post much in this forum but do in others. An unfamilar name may be well known in other forums. I have noticed that some people mainly post in this forum and not much in others. It would be nice to try and be more active across the board. That keeps things less clikish. This forum seems that way sometimes.

Kirk
 
Half of the post in the clinic right now are people with less than 50 posts and some less than 10.
 
I think fresh blood is good. Somebodys bound to be the next Macle and those who stick around will add to the "Pub" as they learn the ropes. I do think a song every two or three weeks is plenty. If I have more, what I do is mention them along with the song I want to talk about. I just say that if you care to hear a couple others, here they are.

Anyway, I think too fast is better than too slow. There are a couple boards I hit where things change so slowly, you only need to go like once every three months.

Oh and those guys who post 1 post and never post again won't be around long.
 
Well, speaking as a member of that 90%, i would say that a big advantage to this board is the fact that it is "newbie" friendly, i believe my first post was a song up for review but with in hours i got some good input, new things i didnt notice were brought up and i was reminded of things i had forgotten, all advice that will lead to me and my band sounding better...there are many other places i could have posted with much less helpfull results, and i had lurked here for a bit before finally posting something...im willing to bet most people do...
also i think that there is only so much you can say about a tune, and after a few posts most of the major points from a technical aspect are going to be covered, so personally im not to concerned with my post being on the second page after a day as long as i got some feed back...
as far as the # of posts a person has, at this point 85% of my activitiy on this board is reading, due to the fact that im learning much more about recording than i could ever teach, or advise at this point...my hope is that time will go on, i will pick up some knowledge and experience and eventually be able to provide helpfull info like many of the people here are doing for me now...
the whole circle of life and all that...
anyway...im done now...this is why i dont post too much...i can be too verbose sometimes ;-)
Thanks again to the powers that be for this board, and thanks to the members for the help...
 
I am one of those newbies you guys are talking about and I just hope that some of the more experienced members get into their role as potential mentors to those of us who are less experienced but serious about learning. We don't have many other alternatives. I want you to know that the help I have gotten so far on the couple of things I put up was extremely valuable and greatly appreciated.
 
"Oh and those guys who post 1 post and never post again won't be around long."

You're right Crawdad. The ones that aren't here to participate will weed themselves out before too long.

I'll echo what Sam said, I try to listen to everything, but only reply if I have time. I'll try to make time for as many as possible, just so they know they are getting some listens.

And of course, I also blame Chris Harris, just cause it's fun.:D

But really, how interesting would it be if it was just the same 20 people everyday? Mostly, the variety of styles is excellent. Wish we had a few female members though.


Twist
 
Rhythmsav, ashul, you guys (and I'm using that word gender neutrally), I think you have great attitudes and we are lucky to have you.

I'd rather see 40 well-said posts than 7,253 pieces of bullshit, that's fer sure.
 
I really hate it when I actually spend alot of time listening and typing trying to help out newcommers, and it turns out that they dont even check back.

I typed this long feeback on this dude's entire Dark Side of the Moon cover, EVERY SONG! and that mofo never even checked back...that really discourages people who are actually listening and posting feebacks.

I dont have a solution to this, but I sure don't post here as much as before......


20 posts in a thread used to be normal, now it's gotta be a mega hit to reach 30. Maybe I will just make a list of people who I would listen to, and do a search each time I come here to look for their new stuff


AL
 
My $.02

If you are new to home recording then this isn't the first place you end up posting. I started long before I posted a tune with info questions, micing, and equipment questions. I had a lot of posts before posting in the clinic. That's just one scenario though. Some people aren't starting from scratch like I did.

Maybe keeping a thread at the top of the page targeting "New Posters Seeking A Listen", following it up with a suggestion that they participate as best they could by commenting on songs already in the clinic in order to become active in the clinic and at the same time receive more feedback on their own.


Maybe that would eliminate the folks who just want the clinic to selfishly focus on their own songs without giving anything back? It would also weed out some of the single posters who aren't going to return.

As soon as you get a feel for the clinic you should realize that you participating in others song, even just by listening, falls under the "you get out of it what you put into it" clause.

I'm fairly new here as you know but respond everyday from 1 to 5 songs. It's a good community you have going here and I don't believe it's a bad idea to keep it condensed to those who are willing to focus on others songs while asking the community to give yours the attention that it deserves.

Joe
 
newbie speech...

I think that often times the word newbie is taken for granted. I understand the gripes with individuals who are merely posting for feedback without rendering any, but there are many things to consider.

For starters, I will use myself as I am certain that I speak appropriately on behalf of many of the newcomers to the forums (making a big leap here so bare with me...).

I have always made beats, mostly with sythesizers and other digital methods. So first and foremost HOMERECORDING and recording of any kind that requires training is totally new. I have posted songs to the forum, got very little feedback but I am patient enough to earn my spot here. The only problem is if you are a newcomer, how do you know where to begin if you have absolutely no prior recording knowledge outside of your musical experience? And for many that only comes from posting your music to receive feedback.

I have read many suggestions for monitoring the activity of this forum and I think that new members should have equal access to the critique that may be the reason why many on the site are as knowledgeable today. There could even be a "smaller" scale forum for reviews for beginners seeing as how a great many have problems with the expansion of the site.

After all this forum is a lot like education (actually it is education...). There is a wealth of knowledge to be gained but in many instances the rich (veteran members) get richer and the poor (those mesely beginners like myself) get poorer. I understand the disdain with recurring themes and topics that have been covered for years but in my experience I just don't understand some issues based off of the discussions because truth be told, there still needs to be some form of prior understanding in place. So it is almost necessary to ask those dreadful question s again and again. I understand that to benefit from this site, newcomers must be patient, but I think as is the case with any good working relationship, the same is required from the other side of the wall, those older memebers who were helped and are now in a position to help.

I don't want my comments to be taken as combat or bashing because I have, personally, grown drastically in my less than a month of membership. But I also know how easy it can be to get turned off by a lot of the members on the site and their more than frank ways. Mad props to those members who give valiant efforts at unbiased support and thanks to those who have preference also, but the bottom line is that we all have to coexist so why foster qualms about it when we can work cohesively for the betterment of all members.

Before this turns into a civil liberties presentation, I'll end here, so go ahead and hit me with the barrage...I put on my metal hat and protective gear before I started writing...And by the way I have a few tracks uploaded that I would love to get some feedback on if you all don't mind...

http://www.nowhereradio.com/modremes/singles

Humbly, Brian
 
Well said bmorris but a shameless plug at the end.

Its too bad but I can understand a more senior member watching what is going on. I have been a little discouraged because the last couple things I posted didn't get any replies. Maybe things will quiet down a little and ears might get refreshed. I for one am not here for stroking or encouragement per se (but its nice!) but I am trying to get help on the technical aspects of mixing which is an art that is hard to develop on your own. This seems like the place to be for that. Hope it stays that way.
 
ashulman....don't get discouraged...you just caught the clinic at a time when the regulars are all a little burnt out at the same time so many of us are just busy elsewhere. We'll be back....promise....I used to listen to 5-10 songs a night if there were that many. I will again but right now I'm busy recording and I barely have time for that so obviously something has to give.....I also know crawdad's in a similar situation and several others are too. So it just happened to all come up at once. But when I get home from my gig tonight.....I'll look for some of your stuff and reply to it even though it'll be 4:00 in the morning and I have to get up.
However....be prepared to get the blame if I get run down and sick! :D:D
 
Don't sweat it

Here's my take as a former professional musician and recording hobbyist:

Since I have a fast connection, I try to listen to as much as possible here. I have a lot of respect for those of you posting on dialup. Been there...

That said I don't always reply to the threads. If others have already brought up the same issues I hear I figure why load up the server? There are exceptions for some of the "regulars" here who's stuff I really dig.;) Some of the stuff here is good, but just not my style. I usually don't comment on that either.

Even with a fast connection I still have a kid, a couple animals, 4 vehicles, a yard, and a day job that also need my attention so I can't always be lounging in front of the computer listening to tunes (though that would be cool).

If everyone does what they can and doesn't take things personal (hey, it's a BBS) it's all good.

OK, next......

Steps off soap box

:D
 
M.Brane
I still have a kid, a couple animals, 4 vehicles, a yard, and a day job that also need my attention

Good one, Thanks for the hook! :-)


Just out of curiosity, ashulman or any "newcomer" who has gotten little or no feedback, how many tunes have you replied to?

Don't let my post #'s fool you. I to am a newcomer. I've posted 3 songs so far. Most of my posts were figuring out how to do everything.

I'm satisfied with my responses but also got involved right off the bat. Hey, you don't have to be able to critique things to respond. Sometimes I just say, "I just wanted to let you know I'm listening". Or I like the song; sorry I can't give any advice.

My point is get involved. Just support each other.

Joe
 
mixmkr: No offense, but it's been suggested before... maybe it's time for you to take a break from the clinic. If it's getting to be too much for you, then quit for a while.

Sure it's busier than before, but deal with it or don't. Personally, on dial-up, I tend to go through things in batches. And members that have been here a while or people I know do get preferential treatment from me. Just the way it is.

But I don't care if someone only has 1 post. Unless I think they're just trolling for hits, they'll get a listen if I have the time and can get to it.
 
One of the things I look for when determing what to spend time on downloading and listening, is what is in the title of the thread. I like to look at a genre or what someone is asking for help on before I continue. I dont' bother with "1st post be gentle" because I'd rather be checking out "Acoustic guitar help wanted" or "Grunge Tone from hell.. what do you think?".

Maybe if there were some "general guidelines" in a sticky post. they don't have to be followed, but just some suggestions on what will or won't get your post checked out. It pisses me off when people don't get any replies and then they get bent. But at the same time, it's not exactly their fault and there are some general guidelines that tend to get your tunes listened to. Just a thought.
 
Smokepole,
I have been trying to listen to 1 or 2 things every time I'm on and I usually respond with something, though it may be something I'm more comfortable with, like levels, arrangements or song structure. But you are right, I feel obligated to get involved.
 
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