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I'll make it simpler.... Do you work for free? If so, come on over, I've got some redwood decks that need staining.... If not, the quit expecting others to do so.... Software creators do this for a living.

There. Done. Bye.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
I've yet to see "debate" from you.... it's all just the same tired "poor me" rhetoric that you and all the other valueless morons spew to rationalize theft........ same as it ever was (talk about being a lemming).... :rolleyes:
I dont rationalize theft......See to you, theft is theft, if somebody tell you something is wrong, then you will automatically say it's wrong based on the fact that you have a lemming mentality......... When a person says a "thief is a thief" or says some one is tryna rationalize theft, to me thats someone who is a square, you cannot think for yourself, you dont know why somebody stole.........or who they stole from.......You already written them off as wrong, which means you're 39 years old and appear to not know anything, what a shame...........
 
turnitdown said:
I'll make it simpler.... Do you work for free? If so, come on over, I've got some redwood decks that need staining.... If not, the quit expecting others to do so.... Software creators do this for a living.

There. Done. Bye.
Idiot.......OF course I dont work for free, but the way america works is for people to capitolize off each other........Corporations work by sucking money out of you and I, cause we "love" something........They are captiolizing off our love........I love music for free, but they know I will pay high prices for my "love" of music........Put it together.....They are capitolizing off you, you picked apart one argument in my entire post in order to throw another weak jab @ me, but not the message itself.......Software Creators do this for a livin, but see how all of those corporations ceo/heads are livin, way better than you and I......WHY??????? THEY ARE CAPITOLIZING OFF OF US!!!!!!!!
 
Yea Bear... You have a "lemming menality", because you think stealing is wrong.... you "lemming" you.... :D :D :D

Hey USDN... you have proven (and continue to do so...) that you are a nut job, a thief, and most annoyingly, of sub-par intellect. There. :eek:
 
Originally Posted by turnitdown
I'll make it simpler.... Do you work for free? If so, come on over, I've got some redwood decks that need staining.... If not, the quit expecting others to do so.... Software creators do this for a living.

There. Done. Bye.


Idiot.......OF course I dont work for free, but the way america works is for people to capitolize off each other........Corporations work by sucking money out of you and I, cause we "love" something........They are captiolizing off our love........I love music for free, but they know I will pay high prices for my "love" of music........Put it together.....They are capitolizing off you, you picked apart one argument in my entire post in order to throw another weak jab @ me, but not the message itself.......Software Creators do this for a livin, but see how all of those corporations ceo/heads are livin, way better than you and I......WHY??????? THEY ARE CAPITOLIZING OFF OF US!!!!!!!!

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turnitdown said:
Hey USDN... you have proven (and continue to do so...) that you are a nut job, a thief, and most annoyingly, of sub-par intellect.
Seriously!
 
LMAO............. I will leave it at this, you cant understand being underprivledge, you awere spoiled and had everything given to you............. I understand hardship, only a fool would take my entire argrument and say I'm for stealing.........Re-read my post, I personally said everything I have I worked for, well 95% of it, but I'm not gonna sit up here and act like I dont have anything free nor that I dont own something that I havent come across for cheaper than what someone else pays for it............ And if someone cracks cubase one time, to you all, that outweights everything else somebody has bought................To me, I cannnot judge against that person as if I never have stolen or that he has no morals, I honestly dont know why that person cracked cubase.....Sub Par intellect????? :rolleyes: Maybe to Einstien but still way above yours.................. See I've been in your shoes, hardwork, but you've never been in mind, underpriveldge.....I can survive if need be, you cant, cause your "morals" allow you not to break a law that wasnt created by you anyways...........And it's stealing by whose standards?????? Cause they say so???? Cause lawmakers say so???? But it's perfectly fine for them to set the standard so high that it's a crime to do something like that anyway.................So next year if they charge 1 million dollars for cubase and every program on the market, it would be okay to pay that, but morally wrong to steal it?????? My whole point is your morals are fake......They are dictated by laws of man and controlled.......But nobody has answered my question nor my argument head on, other than "A Thief is a thief" ......OR "your a moron".............Garbage Jargin.....Attempt to question my intelligence and morals, yet your morals are faulty anyways.......Your morals can manipulated that easy based on software......................IF somebody "steals" software, it's wrong, but it's not wrong to charge these prices......I personally go out and buy most of my shit and actually plan on buyin most of my shit, but I'm proud enough to sit here and say if I can get it for a discounted price, I will......I serve in the US army with my life on the line @ any given moment and I get very few discounts in AMERICA and honestly do not have a chip on my shoulder about it.......My life is on the line so people like you and I can do the things we "love".........But @ the same time, why shouldnt I feel entitled to free shit and why shouldnt I execpt free shit???? Why do I sit up here and pay the same price for mechandise as a person who doesnt even have the heart to put they life on the line..........For whatever reason............?????? So it's okay for me to put my life on the line for whatever my reasons are, I'm still protecting the country, but it's okay for me to pay the same prices as one who doesnt serve, some one who doesnt do what I do for this country and to keep punk ass mafuckas outta the draft........??????? See I ventured into something that could ultimately cost me my life, but I believe in the unknown and know I will be ok, so none of you can question my morals, I have tons of life expirence well beyond my years......But why shouldnt a person like me feel like it's ok to to take from a corporation????? They dont love you, matter of fact, they do that to keep you in place............You keep them rich, they keep you poor............I mean you dont understand my logic cause none of you have been there, you might have been college broke, where mommy might not give you 300 dollars this month.......But I've been there for real........I know people worse off than me, I know they wouldnt have a problem with what I'm sayin............But anyways, I never said stealing was cool, you all are judgin morals off one event, being hypocritical about lack of values and morals while your morals are false and easliy manipulated.........IT's okay for them to rip you off, but if you rip them off, your in the wrong????
 
Wah wah....
So you're poor... but you obviously have $$ for a computer and internet access...

The more you speak, the more make an ass out of yourself...


One more thing... w/ your attitude... you will always be poor.... no one will EVER employ you... and you will always steal, and you will always be a burden on Society...

You are a "Blamer" ... pure and simple... you take no responsibility for yourself.
Also known as the purest form of loser...........
 
turnitdown said:
Wah wah....
So you're poor... but you obviously have $$ for a computer and internet access...

The more you speak, the more make an ass out of yourself...


One more thing... w/ your attitude... you will always be poor.... no one will EVER employ you... and you will always steal, and you will always be a burden on Society...

You are a "Blamer" ... pure and simple... you take no responsibility for yourself.
Also known as the purest form of loser...........
I'm laughin my muthafucking ass off @ this post........

Like I said, instead of tackling the topic, you attack me.......Sign of mental weakness and lack of expirence....... I never said I steal software, I didnt even know what a crack was until I joined this site faggot....... I even made that clear in a thread I posted in, but I do know about life and why people do what they do.....I never stole software........... thats another sign of weakness, I'm simply offering a perspective on why people do what they do.......... Your putting words in my mouth now....... You weakness is bleeding thru the screen......


So if a girl gets raped by her father, she becomes a stripper and a prostitue, you tell her to get over it??????? Is she wrong for pointin out the ills in her life and why she does what she does???????? See you never been there, it's easy to tell somebody else to get over it, but you never been there, so why would you pass judgement if you never walk in that mans shoes.....FAKE!!!!! Your attempting to save face now and doing a bad job of it.........Just admit it.................I dont blame anybody for shit, but my life is the way it is I look @ shit objectively, while you never had to do so, everything is easy for you..........
 
Turnitdown -- I think you said it best when you called him a nut-job -- and it looks like he's got a little 'redneck' thrown-in for fun......... 'nuf said!
 
Like I said, instead of tackling the topic, you attack me....... I didnt even know what a crack was until I joined this site faggot.......

Uh, yeah... :D
And you *DID* say you condoned stealing software...
IF I steal from a corporation that would otherwise rip me off, that is not morally wrong.....See this isnt a universal argument here.............. A thief isnt a thief.......
I can't debate w/ someone who comdemns me for attcking him, then attacks me.

Nor can I debate w/ a liar.

Bye now... And your "Cry me a river, I'm so underpriveledged" story just makes me smile... :D :D :D :D You get what you give!!!! :eek:
 
Bruce, I think we should ease up... I just re-read this guys post, and I now know why he's so F*cked up.... I think (I really do, seriosuly) that he was raped by his father....
So if a guy gets raped by his father, he becomes a stripper and a prostitue, you tell him to get over it??????? Is he wrong for pointin out the ills in his life and why she does what he does???????? See you never been there, it's easy to tell somebody else...

That's some messed up stuff, and would explain alot....
 
turnitdown said:
Uh, yeah... :D
And you *DID* say you condoned stealing software...

I can't debate w/ someone who comdemns me for attcking him, then attacks me.

Nor can I debate w/ a liar.

Bye now... And your "Cry me a river, I'm so underpriveledged" story just makes me smile... :D :D :D :D You get what you give!!!! :eek:


WOW...LMAO this is funny........ I never said I stole software, I said "IF", so how does that make me a liar?????? Like I said, make the message presenter look bad cause you can debate the message..........Thats what kids and women do........I'm offering a hypothetical situation, starting with "IF"......... I never said I've cracked anything, I dont even know where to begin to crack....I didnteven know what the term meant until I joined the baord the other day

Only like two people have sumbmitted objective answers, the rest, like you and Blue Bear hoe or whatever his name is, attempted to attack me as oppose to gettin to the message.........Callin me "redneck", but dont know shit about me, I can be korean for all you know......Now I'm a nut jub, your turing my words around on quotes, simply cause you cannot debate the message, it's too strong, too deep, too real for you, so you take the childish way out.......
 
There is nothing to debate!
Some people steal and some don't. Regardless of what is being stole and from whom, it's still wrong.
Even in this so called capitalistic society. The Big guns have their right to take your money ... if you are willing to give it to them. That ain't their fault. Hell, they even offer lower priced versions for those that can't afford the top of the line. This still doesn't justify someone taking it. Love of something doesn't justify shit. Having hardships in life doesn't justify shit either.

Like I said, there's nothing to debate. Unless one is still a toddler, they know the difference between right and wrong. How they elect to conduct themselves is a representation of their character. Based on that, people will form their opinions of others.
This thread has allowed me to form my own opinions of the people involved. Likewise, I'm sure opinions of myself have been formed by others.
Does this matter to me? No.
Do my opinions of others matter to them? Likely not.

In closing, until one lives on their own island and makes their own laws ... they are bound by the laws society has elected to follow. Plain and simple.
Whether or not they choose to abide by the laws ... that's on them. I ain't on this earth to police anyone, though others are and they will. I will, however, seek retribution from one that wrongs me. I think many others would do the same.
Even a thief.
 
Let me simplify this argument. A software programmer puts alot of effort into his work and he's not making this software so that people can enjoy it. He's doing it becasue he wants to make money, and I dont see how you can say that he's not entitled to it. He worked long and hard to make the programm and it belongs to him (whether its an individual or a corporation)
By using cracked software you are not paying him for his work. It is no different to any tangible object that somebody has worked to create. You cannot moraly use his property without paying him for it.
Theres no point getting into the finer points of teleological ethics (using the ends to justify the means) because you're not doing this for a greater good. Despite the fact you may believe that stealing isnt always bad there is no ethical reason for this theft.
And yes if steinberg decided to give Cubase for free it wouldn't be wrong anymore because it is their property and they have the right to do what they want with it.
Just because you state that love is free and you love music does not mean that you have the right take software simply because you love making music.

I'd like to think that you could come up with a decent responce to my points but I expect that is asking too much of you
 
Interesting and informative article on the evils of piracy

I strongly recommend usdn_rep (and people like him) read this ASAP!!

Complete article here

My name is Dr. Albert Oxford. Imagine a world where at any moment your car, your stereo, even your clothes or your children, could be taken from your home and blithely "traded" on the streets. Imagine your five year-old child or grandchild in the hands of filthy, rap-loving criminals who befoul him in every unimaginable way before beating him and leaving him for dead in the gutter. Now imagine that said thieves justified their actions in the name of "open" and "free" trading, and that these thieves included your brother, or your husband, or even you. And worst of all, imagine that no one bothered to report their names to any kind of online file thievery database.

Now replace the child in that scenario with "copyrighted music and software" and you understand the crisis we are in.

.....

How do illegal file thieves/traders justify their actions? These are some arguments they have given me:

"The technology has changed to the point that the information physically cannot be held prisoner at the hands of any one group. Right or wrong, the issue is moot. Information wants to be free, and has become free."

Fine. Let's take that logic one step further. Let's say someone developed a piece of software, say, a machine, that allowed the user to molest a child from the comfort of his own home, simply by clicking his mouse.

No problem, right?

Now imagine the child is your child.

Another one:

"You basically have one group who wants to take something I have that by its nature wants to be free and try to hold it, to imprison it, keep it under wraps. I refuse to do that. I take it freely, I will give it freely."

Think that's a quote about Online File Trading? I've tricked you; that is a direct quote from convicted rapist Ronald Schneisen, on the subject of Child Molestation.

"...trading of intellectual property is as old as the first Guttenberg Bibles, which were handed freely from owner to owner for the reading. Due to the pure physical nature of the printed page it cannot be restricted to one set of eyes, nor the sound of music to only one designated set of ears. Free intellectual property-trading is not a new idea; restriction of said property is the new idea, and an impossible one."

Sounds good, right? Now take the argument above, and simply replace the words "File Trading" with "child molestation."

"You fundamentalist inquisitors have no right to infringe on my sexual freedom. Child molestation is a victimless crime."

Really? What about the child?

"Child molestation has a long and rich history that stretches back even before the foundation of this country. Who are you to try to come along and stop it?"

You know what else has a long history? Murder. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stamp it out, and it doesn't mean we should give file trading/child molestation a free pass.

Complete article here
 
Well F*ckin 'A'..... how 'bout that??? I find that tough to argue with... :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
crankz1 said:
There is nothing to debate!
Some people steal and some don't. Regardless of what is being stole and from whom, it's still wrong.
Even in this so called capitalistic society. The Big guns have their right to take your money ... if you are willing to give it to them. That ain't their fault. Hell, they even offer lower priced versions for those that can't afford the top of the line. This still doesn't justify someone taking it. Love of something doesn't justify shit. Having hardships in life doesn't justify shit either.

Like I said, there's nothing to debate. Unless one is still a toddler, they know the difference between right and wrong. How they elect to conduct themselves is a representation of their character. Based on that, people will form their opinions of others.
This thread has allowed me to form my own opinions of the people involved. Likewise, I'm sure opinions of myself have been formed by others.
Does this matter to me? No.
Do my opinions of others matter to them? Likely not.

In closing, until one lives on their own island and makes their own laws ... they are bound by the laws society has elected to follow. Plain and simple.
Whether or not they choose to abide by the laws ... that's on them. I ain't on this earth to police anyone, though others are and they will. I will, however, seek retribution from one that wrongs me. I think many others would do the same.
Even a thief.
I agree.....to some extent........A thief isnt s thief, but I think you've made an objective post........Good job
 
ColdAsh said:
Let me simplify this argument. A software programmer puts alot of effort into his work and he's not making this software so that people can enjoy it. He's doing it becasue he wants to make money, and I dont see how you can say that he's not entitled to it. He worked long and hard to make the programm and it belongs to him (whether its an individual or a corporation)
By using cracked software you are not paying him for his work. It is no different to any tangible object that somebody has worked to create. You cannot moraly use his property without paying him for it.
Theres no point getting into the finer points of teleological ethics (using the ends to justify the means) because you're not doing this for a greater good. Despite the fact you may believe that stealing isnt always bad there is no ethical reason for this theft.
And yes if steinberg decided to give Cubase for free it wouldn't be wrong anymore because it is their property and they have the right to do what they want with it.
Just because you state that love is free and you love music does not mean that you have the right take software simply because you love making music.

I'd like to think that you could come up with a decent responce to my points but I expect that is asking too much of you
I applaude you for bringing an argument that does not attempt to knock those who are on the other side, besides the corny ass last sentence................ I'm not stupid and the "simplfy" issue is not needed, but you spoke like a person amoungst the real world, I have respect for you now.....Not that you need it...........

Okay, I'm not totally familliar with software programmers and how they earn they livin, if they are paid for their work, no matter if it's stolen or paid for, I honestly have no sympathy.....They get paid either way.....But if they are paid soley based on how much they sell, then yes, I will admit, it's wrong......But I also have sympathy for the artist who loves music, yet he doesnt have cubase nor can afford cubase......... See, I never said it was ok to steal everything, but you have to understand, as long as we live in a capitolisc society, somebody will be rich, somebody will be poor......Chances are that the person who creates the programs, will have another way to feed themselves and who ever is involved and far from poor.....................The person who cracks the software or obtains a copy, does not........That is my point............... To add to that,
I doubt anybody who owns a home stu has gotten every thing for free............I personally dont know everybody's situation......But I will not judge some one's morals based on if they stole one thing, because it could be a million other things they have done that outweights that one blemish......... That is my point.................. I once again appluade you for not stooping to the level of other people on here where they have to trhow insults in an attempt to get their point across.............. I respect your post.....
 
modgeulator said:
My name is Dr. Albert Oxford. Imagine your five year-old child or grandchild in the hands of filthy, rap-loving criminals...
So you're not down with rap, huh?

Maybe it is as simple as that.

I'd hate to think you inadvertently let your racist slip show...
 
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