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Blue Bear Sound said:
Congratulations.... that's even more of a load of bullshit than your last post!

idiot... :rolleyes:



:lol: More bullshit, why cause I dont agree with you??? Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit, you dont even have a decent response, all you can do is call my response bullshit cause you cant respond to it with intelligence...........Like I said, you a square minded lemming to me, you define one's morals on if they crack cubase or not, you are bullshit to me.....You define morals on how one follows a law.......I mean if they reverse the decision and gave it out for free, it would be cool???? Get the fuck outta here, we talkin about software piracy mafucka, from a company that's here to get over on you anyways.......... Now if he took it from a self employed music shop owner, I understand, but a fucking corporation that would rip you off anyways......... People like you is the reason why people bootleg, you'll sit up here all high and mighty cause you can afford to pay for that high ass shit, makin these companies feel like they prices are justified cause the few people that can afford it buy it........... The next man who has the same love for music as you but cant afford it, suffers cause you feel like it's cool to achieve these high ass standards that these mafuckas set out for you, and when the next man who can get it for free does, you wanna criticize him.......You dudes are fools, I mean that for real.......IF you dont agree, fine, but who are you to critize the next man and his morals/values cause he bootlegs one fuckin program?????? Big fuckin deal, that coulda been the same man that would run up on you and rob you cause he loved music so much, but couldnt afford to love it other than takin it perosnally from you......I guess some of you really dont know what a starving artist is.............. Not someone who is hungry and plays the flute, some one who is figurtivley hungry..........
 
Just because you exist, doesn't mean you're entitled, asshole........ by your logic - you can't afford a Ferrari, so it's ok to steal one.............

If you can't afford Cubase and still want to create music, then you use the tools you CAN afford (there are many) until such time that you can afford Cubase -- it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this.........

Clearly - the next generation of society's leaders are going to be as clueless as they are valueless.... very dark times ahead, unfortunately...........
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Just because you exist, doesn't mean you're entitled, asshole........ by your logic - you can't afford a Ferrari, so it's ok to steal one.............

If you can't afford Cubase and still want to create music, then you use the tools you CAN afford (there are many) until such time that you can afford Cubase -- it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this.........

Clearly - the next generation of society's leaders are going to be as clueless as they are valueless.... very dark times ahead, unfortunately...........


Man get off that tired ass Ferrari metaphor/comparsion, it got killed on first page....... Cubase is a software/abstract/intellicetual property......... Ferrari is a physical property......A luxurious one @ that........Programs are virtually a neccessity in todays music world......IF a mafucka can get it for free, fuck it, get it for free....IT's a computer program.....IF a mafucka can get a Ferrari for free, do so.................... But you are stealing from corporations that are designed to get over on you ANYWAYS.......See with your line of reasoning, it's okay for these corporations to charge these high ass prices even though the love of music is free....IT's okay to provke the crime, but it's dumb for a mafucka to do the crime???????...............Even though they can get away with it............. But the actual elements/compents/euiment of music cost........... You define one's morals on how they follow a man made law.................... Lemming shit if you ask me......


And dont question my morals, I've done my fair share of learning in this world and doing what I gotta do......... I can school even some of you older people on what is morals.................. But thats not the point here................
 
usdn rep said:
Man get off that tired ass Ferrari metaphor/comparsion, it got killed on first page....... Cubase is a software/abstract/intellicetual property......... Ferrari is a physical property......A luxurious one @ that........Programs are virtually a neccessity in todays music world......IF a mafucka can get it for free, fuck it, get it for free....IT's a computer program.....IF a mafucka can get a Ferrari for free, do so.................... But you are stealing from corporations that are designed to get over on you ANYWAYS.......See with your line of reasoning, it's okay for these corporations to charge these high ass prices even though the love of music is free....IT's okay to provke the crime, but it's dumb for a mafucka to do the crime???????...............Even though they can get away with it............. But the actual elements/compents/euiment of music cost........... You define one's morals on how they follow a man made law.................... Lemming shit if you ask me......


And dont question my morals, I've done my fair share of learning in this world and doing what I gotta do......... I can school even some of you older people on what is morals.................. But thats not the point here................
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Clearly clueless.................................
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Clearly clueless.................................



When all else fails, you cant debate the message, attack the messenger........A tactic often used be people who are weak in nature......
 
usdn rep said:
When all else fails, you cant debate the message, attack the messenger........A tactic often used be people who are weak in nature......
Nonsense.....

Arguing with morons such as yourself is about as useful as banging one's head against a wall. You just don't get it and likely never will, and as such, you're simply too clueless to waste any further effort on............

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
I have no idea why I am replying to this... but when I saw this
But you are stealing from corporations that are designed to get over on you ANYWAYS.......See with your line of reasoning, it's okay for these corporations to charge these high ass prices even though the love of music is free....IT's okay to provke the crime, but it's dumb for a mafucka to do the crime??????
I had to say WTF?? "Corporations that are designed to get over on you??? Huh?? Can you explain this???

Or, "to charge these high ass prices even though the love of music is free...." Then why don't we all get free monitors and mics??

Better yet, why don't you give me all your equipemnt??? After all, MY love for music is FREE... Yeah, I didn't think so....

I do software for a living... so I guess I should just come to your house and give you 40 hours a week of my time, because you love music, so everything should be free... Including the fruit of my labor....

Quit being so cheap... buy what you use.... simple... ;)
 
usdn rep said:
Man get off that tired ass Ferrari metaphor/comparsion, it got killed on first page....... Cubase is a software/abstract/intellicetual property......... Ferrari is a physical property......A luxurious one @ that........Programs are virtually a neccessity in todays music world......IF a mafucka can get it for free, fuck it, get it for free....IT's a computer program.....IF a mafucka can get a Ferrari for free, do so.................... But you are stealing from corporations that are designed to get over on you ANYWAYS.......See with your line of reasoning, it's okay for these corporations to charge these high ass prices even though the love of music is free....IT's okay to provke the crime, but it's dumb for a mafucka to do the crime???????...............Even though they can get away with it............. But the actual elements/compents/euiment of music cost........... You define one's morals on how they follow a man made law.................... Lemming shit if you ask me......


And dont question my morals, I've done my fair share of learning in this world and doing what I gotta do......... I can school even some of you older people on what is morals.................. But thats not the point here................

It seems some people can justify anything to themselves. Intelectual propery is property despite the fact it's intangible. Somebody created it, they own it and they decide if you can use it and how much it costs. Sorry but we live in a capatilist market and that means that not everybody gets everything they want. Life is tough - get over it.
But seriously, my god you sound like a wanker. Blue Bear is a well respected member of this board, you just sound like a tool. If you ever need help from anyone on the board in the future I'd say you've shot yourself in the foot

Oh and by the way, why dont you use the word mafucka another dozen times or so, cause its really helping your argumnet :D
 
Fuck music software. Does anyone know where I can download a Ferrari?
 
turnitdown said:
Quit being so cheap... buy what you use.... simple... ;)
That's it in a nutshell.

Money is pretty tight for me so I use what I can afford (Cubase SE).

Is that because it's the law? If I felt the law that says you can't steal stuff was grossly unfair then I wouldn't have a problem defying it. However I happen to think that particular law is pretty fair, it goes against my own beliefs and values to steal.

I was bought up to believe that if you want something you pay for it, if you can't afford it then you work harder and you save. If you're never going to be able to afford it then you go without.

USDN REP you've said nothing to convince me that stealing IP is justifiable. I would go as far as to say you're just rationalising it to yourself because you like not having to pay for stuff. The starving artist thing doesn't work for me because I am one and I know many others and none of us think it's OK to steal software.

Talent is more important than gear anyway.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Nonsense.....

Arguing with morons such as yourself is about as useful as banging one's head against a wall. You just don't get it and likely never will, and as such, you're simply too clueless to waste any further effort on............

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bullshit again............ Why debate with me if you find my arugments so moronic????? You also havent made a debate yet to me other than dumb insults that arent even funnt nor effective........Your whole post is laced with insults and truth be told you cannot debate my logic cause it's over your head......You and several other people in here base your morals on man made laws, shit that other human beings make up......If they said it was illegal to use the net tommorrow, you would find it immoral, cause law makers tell you so, despite the fact that you want to use the internet, they say you cant, so you dont, and if anyone else wants to use the net and actually did, you would question there morals cause they dont feel the same way you do.......The logic is way over your head........

Some of you say a thief is a thief, but if you dont understand why or how that man stole what he stole, then you just mindless hypocrite that cannot think for yourself.......... I dont justify shit to myelf, thats my way of thinking, its called LIFE EXPIRENCE......... You all are so quick to condem a man for the simple fact you dont agree with'em based on man made laws.....Lemme pose this question, if Steinberg gave out cubase for free tommorrow, how many of you would download it?????????? I bet all of you would..........But if they make it a law, then you would say it's wrong, even though you can still get it for free and but couldnt afford it anyway.....I'm tired of clowing you squareminded dudes................Open your minds up, your logic is "a thief is a thief, so he or she is wrong...", my logic is understand why someone does what they do before you question their morals........... I hope to never have any of you on my jury if I ever made a mistake in life...............
 
usdn rep said:
Bullshit again............ Why debate with me if you find my arugments so moronic????? You also havent made a debate yet to me other than dumb insults that arent even funnt nor effective........Your whole post is laced with insults and truth be told you cannot debate my logic cause it's over your head......You and several other people in here base your morals on man made laws, shit that other human beings make up......If they said it was illegal to use the net tommorrow, you would find it immoral, cause law makers tell you so, despite the fact that you want to use the internet, they say you cant, so you dont, and if anyone else wants to use the net and actually did, you would question there morals cause they dont feel the same way you do.......The logic is way over your head........

Some of you say a thief is a thief, but if you dont understand why or how that man stole what he stole, then you just mindless hypocrite that cannot think for yourself.......... I dont justify shit to myelf, thats my way of thinking, its called LIFE EXPIRENCE......... You all are so quick to condem a man for the simple fact you dont agree with'em based on man made laws.....Lemme pose this question, if Steinberg gave out cubase for free tommorrow, how many of you would download it?????????? I bet all of you would..........But if they make it a law, then you would say it's wrong, even though you can still get it for free and but couldnt afford it anyway.....I'm tired of clowing you squareminded dudes................Open your minds up, your logic is "a thief is a thief, so he or she is wrong...", my logic is understand why someone does what they do before you question their morals........... I hope to never have any of you on my jury if I ever made a mistake in life...............
A few people have given opposing views but you've chosen to ignore them.

So if you're poor it's ok to steal? That's an insult to those suffering genuine hardship who still choose to stick to a decent level of morality in their day to day lives, we're talking about computer software here, not a crust of bread.
 
Kevin DeSchwazi said:
That's it in a nutshell.

Money is pretty tight for me so I use what I can afford (Cubase SE).



USDN REP you've said nothing to convince me that stealing IP is justifiable. I would go as far as to say you're just rationalising it to yourself because you like not having to pay for stuff. The starving artist thing doesn't work for me because I am one and I know many others and none of us think it's OK to steal software.

Talent is more important than gear anyway.

I agree, talent is more important than gear...........


Steinberh and all these other corporations are designed to rip you off....I dunno how old you are or where you at, but American society is a capitolist soicety......Everybody capitolizes off the next persons efforts..............So it's ok for a company to capitolize off you, get over on you, make you work so hard to afford and partially pay to help you do something you love, which is free..........It's ok to do that, but if they tell you, "It's stealing cause we cant capitolize off of you", then the person who actually steals is wrong?????? I'm not sayin steal every piece of software out, but if someone happens to land on a free cubase or a crack a pro tools, then do so......Chances are that the person has bought a lotta other shit anyways......On my starvin artist salary, I've invested $4000 worth into equpiment, but I've also gotten hooked up with shit, am I supposed to turn it down cause the "law" says it's wrong???????? I mean I understand where some of you are coming from, but what gets to me when I read is that people are throwin in words like "morals" and "values", based on the fact that a person has one piece of cracked software from a corporation that is designed to capitolize off of what you "love" to do anyways........You are basically sayin let them take advantage of you cause you love music............and if you dont let them take advantage of you, your morals/vaules are nonexistent............IF you dont understand that, then you have either been in the house too long or you never faced anything in your life where you had to do was wrong by somebody else standards..........You have lived your life boxed in completely by what other feel is right
 
Kevin DeSchwazi said:
A few people have given opposing views but you've chosen to ignore them.

So if you're poor it's ok to steal? That's an insult to those suffering genuine hardship who still choose to stick to a decent level of morality in their day to day lives, we're talking about computer software here, not a crust of bread.


I havent ignored anybody, I threw out my opinion, people hurl insults and questioned my vaules as well as everybody else who share my point of view, based on one presented action...I actually read a few comments, 4 pages worth before I commented and honestly most of you that are on the other side of my opinion are ignoring my opinion and others that agree........


I never said it's ok to steal if your poor, I'm simply sayin that chances are, you might have cracked cubase, but you also spend a lotta money on what you love as well........Some of you are coming off like you shouldnt execept any software for free, cause you didnt pay for it, or that you should not "crack" cubase cause it's wrong by the law.......... Then being hypocritical, your questioning morals of the next man based on man made laws, human beings like you and I..............As oppose to the laws of your higher being or the laws of reality............ I know I have gotten free shit, but does that outweight the the money I've spent????? Chances are that a person who has cracked Cubase has also put money into a home recording studio, you cant steal everything.........And corporations who are designed to capitolize off your efforts and love, if you steal from them....AKA get them back, you are wrong?????????? It's ok to for them to rip the public off, but if you rip them off, your wrong????????? The only reason why some of you view it as wrong cause somebody told you it was wrong, not because it's wrong morally.........If I stole from you, a fellow starvin artist, someone who goes thru the same thing I go thru, same struggle, same love, thats morally wrong......IF I steal from a corporation that would otherwise rip me off, that is not morally wrong.....See this isnt a universal argument here.............. A thief isnt a thief.......Theres a difference between Robin Hood and a common pick pocket.................
 
ColdAsh said:
It seems some people can justify anything to themselves. Intelectual propery is property despite the fact it's intangible. Somebody created it, they own it and they decide if you can use it and how much it costs. Sorry but we live in a capatilist market and that means that not everybody gets everything they want. Life is tough - get over it.
But seriously, my god you sound like a wanker. Blue Bear is a well respected member of this board, you just sound like a tool. If you ever need help from anyone on the board in the future I'd say you've shot yourself in the foot

Oh and by the way, why dont you use the word mafucka another dozen times or so, cause its really helping your argumnet :D



Wow, another lemming......So what Blue Bear is a respected member of this board, I'm a grown man with two eyes and two hands and I understand life wit my own thoughts and heart....So what, I'm suppose to agree with him cause he's a respected member????? Fuck his respect........I dont follow everything somebody says cause they are respected by other folks........If he says some dumb shit, or some shit I dont agree wit it, and it calls for me to speak, then I'm goin to speak........


I dont honestly give a fuck about you and whoever else isnt gonna help me, you aint the only muthafuckas around that know about home studios, get the fuck off your high horse dufus.............. Like I need you.....Thats feminem type shit, I dont agree with you, so your not gonna help me .. :rolleyes:


Once again, another wack ass attempt to kill the person who presents the message as oppose to debating the message..........Wow.... :eek:
 
turnitdown said:
I have no idea why I am replying to this... but when I saw this

I had to say WTF?? "Corporations that are designed to get over on you??? Huh?? Can you explain this???

Or, "to charge these high ass prices even though the love of music is free...." Then why don't we all get free monitors and mics??

Better yet, why don't you give me all your equipemnt??? After all, MY love for music is FREE... Yeah, I didn't think so....

I do software for a living... so I guess I should just come to your house and give you 40 hours a week of my time, because you love music, so everything should be free... Including the fruit of my labor....

Quit being so cheap... buy what you use.... simple... ;)


NEXT

Lemming # 4589......Wow.......

Whose being cheap, I've paid for 95% of the shit I own, if some one else has helped me with the other 5%, so fuckin what?????????


If you think these corporations out here are designed to help you cause they are nice people and they like you, you havent learned anything about capitolism........Chances are the person/people who created/own Steinberg and a majority of the staff involved all have/make more money than you, while a foolish person such ass yourself struggles to save money to make them even richer..........Then turns around and will sit up here and question and wonder how they get over you..........


I love music, love is free.........The equipment/software is not, thats where they take advantage of you.......Even religion cost in America, they capitolize on your love for you creator......Benny Hinn???? TD JAKES??? If they really wanted to save the world, they would do it for free......... But since they know people LOVE something, they captiolize off of that love..........It's mere capitolism and common hustling.......... You mention capitolism, so you should understand what that word means......Love is an emotion, it doesnt cost to love, I love music with or without the equipment, but people use your love to motivate you to do certain things to elevate themselves............OVER YOU......


I mean when you objectivly look back over all of my post, you will find that no matter what, I'm speaking pure truth........I never said go out, crack everything on the market, I never said go out, get everything for free......I'm simply sayin for like the 10,097 time, that why are people so judgemental cause a person has cracked software, questioning morals and values??? Chances are that person has spent money anyways, so that one crack outweights all the money they spent???? You never know......These corporations are here to capitolize off you and your love, it's ok for them to get you, but it's not ok to get them, cause somebody else said it's wrong.......But if they gave it out for free tommorrow, all of a sudden, it wouldn't be wrong anymore????? Anyways, I'm done wit you, dismissed clown.....



NEXT!!!!!!!!
 
Saying that Steinberg is a big corporation designed to fuck everybody over is just a rationalisation for theft (and a poorly considered one at that).

In a capitalist society businesses sell products and services to make money. If you think they charge too much and that they make too much profit then you don't buy their products, their loss.

It's not as if Steinberg has a monoploy and it's not the case that if you can't afford cubase SX then you don't have other options for recording.

Steinberg makes a much cheaper but still very useful programme called Cubase SE. If you can't afford that then there are cheaper packages from other developers like n-track and powertracks etc. If you can't stretch to that then there is even free sequencing/recording software like Kristal and Audacity.

What weakens your argument somewhat is that you think it's Ok to bypass all of the cheaper options and steal the top of the line software. It's not as if there aren't other options if money is tight.

Another thing that weakens your argument is calling everyone who doesn't agree with you a lemming. As I said before I don't steal because I'm morally opposed to it and it just so happens that in this instance the law says the same thing.
 
usdn rep said:
Why debate with me if you find my arugments so moronic?????
I've yet to see "debate" from you.... it's all just the same tired "poor me" rhetoric that you and all the other valueless morons spew to rationalize theft........ same as it ever was (talk about being a lemming).... :rolleyes:
 
Steinberh and all these other corporations are designed to rip you off....I dunno how old you are or where you at, but American society is a capitolist soicety......Everybody capitolizes off the next persons efforts..............

Which I guess is your elegant way of saying you don't have a job or your own business....
 
turnitdown said:
Which I guess is your elegant way of saying you don't have a job or your own business....
what....you dont make sense with this post to me??????? Nonsense
 
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