Do you really buy that expensive recording software?

[philbagg]

I don't always agree that digi's stuff "works".. Dodgydesign earned their name. Especially with PT8.

My favourite being the beat detective now does the opposite of its intended purpose and seems to be stuck in "random" mode, throwing your drums left right and centre wherever it feels like. Or lately I've had to keep restarting it because the sound will just randomly stop working. I can hear it one minute, and all I'm doing is triggering sounds with a MIDI keyboard, and it'll stop. The meters still dance, yet my ears get lonely. I'm dreading the day it happens with a client in the room.

Have you heard about the way PT HD is supposed to be going? They're supposed to be doing away with their DSP cards, and just using the onboard processors as they're becoming powerful enough. Great, no longer the need to buy the cards, money saved right? Wrong. They're going to make you pay to "unlock" the use of YOUR processors.

They don't have to make the hardware, or do anything apart from program a "License" allowing you to use what's already yours, and yet we've to pay for it.

Maybe if they stopped putting so much money into anti-piracy and coming up with ridiculous ideas to anger their customers, they could put some more money into fixing their software.

I'm against piracy, but if I could crack an iLok, and all their software and emulate their hardware (making the computer think there's a 196 I/O attached etc.), I'd take them for every penny.

 

[zazz]

In a perfect world all software would be uncrackable and the ammount of money flowing in from the students and unemployed that were benefitting from pirate software would now be a huge windfall that would boost the next software development phase of all these products.

sounds like a good business model ..if only they could see their way to making their products uncrakable using dongles and live net validations.

but then again maybe if they do that some underhand company might decide to allow cracks to filter through the upcoming ranks of non revenue earning potential power users that would now grab the all important upcoming market share user base that will fuel the next generation of software development for that company.

what to do what to do?

bottom line is that if you make your software uncrakable its economic suicide ..thats why they dont do it ..not because of some inconvinience aspect.

if everyone did it then it would be an even playing field and we would have to live with it ..but its dog eat dog and some companies are in my opinion in direct contact with certain crack houses.

 

[dintymoore]

I bought Cubase Vst/24 about 10 years ago. It was expensive, I think around $500 at the time. I still use it every day on Os 9 on a Mac, and since it runs infinite tracks at 24/96 I still haven't seen any need to "upgrade" (what a bullshit routine!) yet.

You don't want the vibe of something stolen in your system.

 

[kcearl]

well ive tried out and used reaper and energy xt2.5 recently...and quite frankly I feel a fool for buying sonar studio (they must hate me on the cakewalk forum)...complete waste of money..these two are more than adequate and I think $60 is a pretty fair price foe an audio/midi recording programme and a handful of effects..

I will say Ive never seen as loyal a user base as Reaper users..i read mocking posts about them on single DAW forums then hear music thats badly mixed and recorded on $600 programmes..

we had a saying for that in the biker fraternity...all the gear no idea...

 

[philbagg]

bottom line is that if you make your software uncrakable its economic suicide ..thats why they dont do it ..not because of some inconvinience aspect.

Waves are doing it now. And I was wondering why they've suddenly become less popular...

 

[darrin_h2000]

(they must hate me on the cakewalk forum)

I wonder why

 

[kcearl]

I wonder why

says mister no mates lol

 

[mev]

making money

sorry to developers but if u make cold hard cash from their software etc then u should pay ..if not then fk them ...lol but thx to the developers

 

[CoolMusicNotes]

I'm thinking about turning my home pc into a small recording console for my music and was talking to a friend about which recording software I should buy. He said, "Buy? Why spend $599.99 on that expensive software when you can download it from gnutella for free?" Then pops up the moral dilema about really paying that money to support the creator, which I have supported in the past.

Yes, because I want to get the best quality of what I paid for.

 

[kcearl]

well i was in a mall in Bangkok today and its got every piece of recording software available from Nuendo 4 to Ableton 8, all the NI instruments, sample CDs etc for around 1200 baht each..roughly $30..this is in full view of cops etc in a pretty upmarket mall, no one gives a shite here

I think I bought a legit copy of soundforge the other day, packaging looked real etc...but I was probably ripped off as it was way more expensive than the obvious pirate copies... but Im not contacting Sony to find out, thats for sure...

 

[Toker41]

No, I don't really buy that expensive recording software.


I buy cheaper recording software, and get the same results, and quality.


N-track = $50 and does EVERYTHING the expensive software does. Not to mention, I can e-mail, or chat with the actual developer himself, anytime I like. He always responds to e-mail in the same day, and is always available in the online forum on his site.

 

[LankySam]

For mid-level to pro it is best to buy the software

When I first started out, I tried to use free software to save money. It helped me, but after a year or so I needed more features. I moved from Cubase VST (on PC) to Logic Audio Pro (on Mac). I also like the support the company offers regarding latest drivers, etc. Logic's price has come down a lot after Apple bought Emagic. I originally paid $1000 for it, now you can get it for around $500 or less. A good place to look for good prices on new and used software for home recording studio's is http://www.prohomerecording.com

 

[KING RENZ]

If you go to someone who has a music cd or a video game and they give it to you. Than who cares. If someone sells you a used old camero, and you did not go to a new care sales man to get the new camero.Who cares.

My point is this.
Someone or whoever puts a software on the net and people go get it.Since the company don't get anything,SO they say we don't get a share so it is illegal.Did you get a share when someone lend you a Jackson album or Dmx cd.

Company will have Hard workers all year at the bottom of the pole, work hard while CEO get a bonus and go on trips to islands and can't say thank you. Or we cant give a raise this year.Whatever.So a company down fall is not about piracy or people not spending to help there development.
It is part of a bigger problem.

There is a way to test out a software to see if you like it.DEMO
So you dont say -I WASTED MONEY ON SONAR ,BUT I CAN DO THE SAME IN REAPER FOR LESS. Question is can you?

FL STUDIO IS CHEAPER THAN NUENDO-CAN U DO THE SAME IN BOTH PROGRAMS?

AM I AGAINST STEALING. YES.
AM I AGAINST HELPING OTHERS-NOOOOO!

Who gets a profit out of downloads?
Who gets the profit out of a 10000K medical bill.While someones great grany gets the door BECAUSE SHE CANT WORK ANYMORE AND DO NOT HAVE THE SAME BENIFITS AS SOMEONE YOUNGER ON THE JOB?
,Or a mortgage that the bank only puts 100 towards the principle.
WHERE IS THE BIG PICTURE.
IT IS NOT FILE SHARING!!!!

Someone say here is Jay-z cd. Here it is!! for those who can't afford it.
"Here it is on my computer- I will share it with you."I give you permision since i have it,to take it and use it.
So you don't have to pay a studio $$$ an hour HERE IS A SOFTWARE.Learn it your self.HMMMMM
If you like it than go buy it.If it is trash.Whatever.

Would ebay be just as wrong?
Here is a impala frame-old impala 64.
Go to a chevy dealer and order it.See how much it is.
Is it stealing if I go to ebay ,and see it for 2500 less than the dealer.Is that stealing.
Or the junk yard says i got one.Here you can have it.FREE. USE IT IF YOU LIKE.It is mine and you can use it.
Is that diffrent from file sharing?
Going into imageline data base and taking there new software before it is released is more towards illegal downloading than using files from the person accross the street WHO SHARED THERE HARD DRIVE.

However I buy my software -USED - because I have other hobbies to spend money on.I just wanted to point out piracy is not causing the fall of companys alone.

 

[robdrums69]

I'm thinking about turning my home pc into a small recording console for my music and was talking to a friend about which recording software I should buy. He said, "Buy? Why spend $599.99 on that expensive software when you can download it from gnutella for free?" Then pops up the moral dilema about really paying that money to support the creator, which I have supported in the past.

My two cents is that I've been on both sides of this coin and let me just save you some headaches !! Listen up all you newbs lol - jokes.

Pirated software - works - yes, BUT, big BUT. You will have nothing but issues with certain titles and all, UPDATES from the company to make things work better, won't be at your grasp, like us that OWN IT! remember that.

I only install a pirated version to test and see if it's something I'm interested in or I'll download the demo and try it out. If I like it, then I buy it!
I get a great feeling from knowing that I own it and I'll be getting all of the great goodies that come along with owning a piece of recording software.

REAPER - is a great DAW that is FREE to use for as long as you want! so, I would suggest you all start with that one. It's great! I like it better than SONAR

Purcahse Sample Tank - $49.00 right now!!! XT version !!
Great deal!
Check this group buy out ! I posted this on the main forum too
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/Main.html?xtgroupbuy/index.php

Well, that's my two cents! and take it from me, I've been doing this a long time and you will be glad that you purchased a great piece of software that will work perfectly for your home studio !!

Take care
Robdrums69

 

[BigMuffinMan]

Get a job

What if I have a full time job but almost all my money goes to rent and food and such and if I hadn't downloaded it I would have never even thought about spending $300 on a software program.

I used Audacity for the longest time and downloaded the demo of real DAW and it was way better, so I downloaded a crack and it works perfectly.

I only use it for my own personal enjoyment, never made any money recording.

 

[Greg_L]

Die thread, die.

 

[Chili]

I only use it for my own personal enjoyment, never made any money recording.

Ha, not too many of us have ever made any money recording either.

Be careful what you post, I hear one of the mods here is anal about piracy!!!

I let confessions in this thread slide, but if you're posting about your crackz in any other thread, you'll probably get booted. This site doesn't tolerate theft!!!

Die thread, die.

Now the thread can die!!

 

[ellenad]

Don't rip em off

I downloaded a free trial of N-Track a while ago to run on my PC. Great product. Paid for it and got awesome support.
Now on MAC with Logic. Not as intuitive

 

[acidrock]

I only use it for my own personal enjoyment, never made any money recording.

The vast majority of people who use recording software don't make money off it,it's only the idiots who think they shouldn't have to pay.

 

[ermghoti]

What if I have a full time job but almost all my money goes to rent and food and such and if I hadn't downloaded it I would have never even thought about spending $300 on a software program.

I used Audacity for the longest time and downloaded the demo of real DAW and it was way better, so I downloaded a crack and it works perfectly.

I only use it for my own personal enjoyment, never made any money recording.

What else do you want for your personal enjoyment, that you are unwilling to pay for, that you should be able to take without the owner's permission? Why exactly should your financial status have anything to do with whether someone else is allowed to sell their work?