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Yawn.cominginsecond said:
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cominginsecond said:
"And how many CIA sponsored repressive Latin American regimes did Shure and Electro-Voice's Tax dollars help to fund?"
You asked the question.... and I told you that I don't know... now your acting as if you have the answer... so, tell me.... how many?
cominginsecond
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Let's see, there was Chile, Guatamala, and Nicaragua that I can think of right off the top of my head... There are suspicions we were in on Venezuela's recent coup. (Do you know what a coup is, DJL?)DJL said:
cominginsecond
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You didn't ask how many, you asked what a regime was. Are you going to edit your past posts to make it look like you knew what a regime was all along?DJL said:
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cominginsecond said:
Yeah I did.
cominginsecond
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This is dumb. I'm stopping right now.
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cominginsecond said:
Sometimes.
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Mark7 said:
Yeah I know.... but, it's getting better now that many of us moved to USA from there.
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H2oskiphil said:
They are doing a really great job it seems especially in the last year with improving things here and there and coming out with wonderful new pieces like their nine polar pattern tube A-48. I wouldn't take them on if I didn't believe that they provided a quality product...nobody is twisting my arm.
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crazydoc
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NathanEldred said:
Please try to stay on topic!
Rimshot
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My day-job is as a visual artist (of respectable reputation) and I "moonlight" as a musician (AFM member, the whole route). I was just in an exhibition in Beijing China in April of 2003 as a guest of the Chinese government. They even offered to pay for my airfar and hotels to attend the opening reception, I declined (I abhor long flights). I was representing the US. Do I represent the current administration of the US? NO! I consider myself a patriotic American and I vote regularly, but I am opposed to much of what the current administration has done.
MY POINT? Should I, a practicing artist, be discriminated against because I make my home in a country where some people may have philosophical differences with? Should people not purchase my work or hire me to play in a gig because I live in the same nation that is run by the Bush-Cheney administration? Okay I pay my taxes. I have little choice in the matter.
Isn't it equally stupid to discriminate against a microphone manufacturer because the people that own and work n the factory live in China? The last time I checked, microphones weren't listed as weapons of mass destruction.
China has been changing a bit in the last 30 years regarding business. They entered the world market with their first tries at slr cameras and were well received. Since then there has been experimentation with limited capitalism. The electronice industry is an example of that.
Should I throw out all of my German microphones because they are made in the same country that gave us Hitler? That would be pretty stupid wouldn't it?
The face of world politics is not going to change because you purchased a microphone which had its components made in a hard working Chinese factory. The idea that this is taking jobs away from American workers is a "red herring" thrown in our faces by our politicians to draw attention away from how poorly they have managed things domestically.
I am somewhat amused by the reaction from people that are condemning the purchases of "Chinese manufactured" microphones as being something that supports foreigners and takes jobs away from America and out of the other side of their mouths heartily reccommend Nuemann, Sennheiser, AKG, BLUE, Oktava, Rode and others.
So what is the problem with Chinese mics?
MY POINT? Should I, a practicing artist, be discriminated against because I make my home in a country where some people may have philosophical differences with? Should people not purchase my work or hire me to play in a gig because I live in the same nation that is run by the Bush-Cheney administration? Okay I pay my taxes. I have little choice in the matter.
Isn't it equally stupid to discriminate against a microphone manufacturer because the people that own and work n the factory live in China? The last time I checked, microphones weren't listed as weapons of mass destruction.
China has been changing a bit in the last 30 years regarding business. They entered the world market with their first tries at slr cameras and were well received. Since then there has been experimentation with limited capitalism. The electronice industry is an example of that.
Should I throw out all of my German microphones because they are made in the same country that gave us Hitler? That would be pretty stupid wouldn't it?
The face of world politics is not going to change because you purchased a microphone which had its components made in a hard working Chinese factory. The idea that this is taking jobs away from American workers is a "red herring" thrown in our faces by our politicians to draw attention away from how poorly they have managed things domestically.
I am somewhat amused by the reaction from people that are condemning the purchases of "Chinese manufactured" microphones as being something that supports foreigners and takes jobs away from America and out of the other side of their mouths heartily reccommend Nuemann, Sennheiser, AKG, BLUE, Oktava, Rode and others.
So what is the problem with Chinese mics?
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Rimshot said:
I think that would be a good question to ask someone like Fletcher.
cominginsecond
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You're the one constantly slamming Chinese mics. Why don't you respond? Why do you waste so much space on this board with this stuff? Especially the whole SP quality control issue? The funny thing is, you've endorsed MXL and SP mics in the past. What's changed your mind? Is it something related to the sound of the mics, or is it some tangent?DJL said:
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acorec
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Rimshot said:
Read my post above. There are no problems with chinese mics. Only problems with greedy people who "start" a mic company and don't care about quality at all. All the bad workmanship goes unchecked and gets passed on to the customer. ALL manufacturing houses cut corners. Quality Control checks that and keeps the manufacturers honest. It take alot of time and money to have engineers keep on top of the day-to-day manufacturing problems and fix them BEFORE they hit the end customer.
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DJL said:
Good question. As I hear it, Alan Hyatt has opened an office in the UK to staff people to check quality and sales.
This shows (if true) that SP knows the right way to run a quality buisness. If not true, then all bets are off.
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cominginsecond said:
Because you'll believe someone like Fletcher.
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acorec said:
Really? Well, if that's true it is a step in the right direction.
Rimshot
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Don't take offense acorec. It should be obvious that those questions were not directed at you. There is a faction (not just one person) that for either business or personal reasons passes up no opportunity to trash mics and eletronics that have some of or all of their parts made in China.
cominginsecond
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No one is claiming (well, not many people) that $200 SP mics compete with the stuff Fletcher deals in. The consensus is that these mics are good... for the money. Fletcher's not going to say anything any different. He chooses not to sell SP because he almost exclusively deals in top-of-the-line gear, not because it's a bad value.DJL said: