carving the turkey

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I haven't listened to this yet but I don't like micing on that side of the kick drum...expecially if it's not likely for it to be properly tuned.

Personally I would take the pillow out... put the head back on and ...being a really frick'n small kit (godda love 2pieces :) ) ... put a bass mic like a D112 or a Beta52 or whatever on the end of a boom mic stand and place it right above the kick mallets...with double bass, right inbetween the two mallets. that way the snare is behind the mic and it will get a hell of a lot crisper attack.

http://www.foxytravel.com/YE/photo/MVC-181L.JPG

With that setup the kick mic is over two feet from the source of the sound....and the pillow isn't going to allow the shell to resonate evenly...so you get a weak bass harmonic thing going among other things...pillows are evil...just remember that :)

It's hard to tell but it sorta looks like you have a wrinkle in the kick beater head...Remo's are fine but I converted to Aquarian heads ...and it's fairly apparent that the pedal mallets arn't hitting in the center of the drum from the apparent placement of the pad. http://www.foxytravel.com/YE/photo/MVC-183L.JPG

I personally don't like those muffle rings either...but I also don't like gating... yeah snares are supposed to be crisp but it's also supposed to have a slightly extended decay too... but it depends a lot on style

...and the room is square...and it looks like theres actually too much deadening material...

Bear in mind I'm saying this as an experienced drummer and not as an experienced engineer :)
 
all the mics have been moved from that previous pic...including the kick mic.

The room is all concrete, except for some bass trap style wood I put on the ceiling. I also put up some other stuff to keep it from being so rectangular.

The way I was micing before was a total nightmare, I think this will work a lot better.
 
That's sounding better. The kick is much more present. That snare is still a bit dull sounding. The drummer needs to really hit it instead of those wimpy taps. A new head might help. With a little compression to give it a more full sound I think you're on the way.
 
ya, he does hit it hard...that is why he needs a new head...dented this one already :) I also have that mic padded so I have some decent headroom.

Any other tips on mixing it?
 
Also, at about 45 seconds, I can't quite tell if I have a phase issue, if I do, its just when he does that one type of cymbal hit (hapens about 3 times in the song)...the question is...if it IS in fact phase, is it worth repositioning the mics and risk getting phase elsewhere? Can I save this track or just because of that little thing does it need to be redone.

As always, help is appreciated...I am recording again on Sunday.

thanks!

- Keith
 
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