Can anyone comment on the differences between the Studio Projects C1 and B3?

[slobbermonster]

Puppies versus Babies ...

Depends on what sauce you use, puppies work best with sweet and sour sauce and fried rice

 

[Harvey Gerst]

Do whatever you want... just stay active on hr.com and keep helping people.

I plan to do just that: stay active, and try to help people. What I WON'T do any more is express opinions about what gear to get, or which is better.

This forum has become a very hostile environment; very different from what it was when I first came here. I'm not going to get into debates over the choice of any particular brands of tools. It's not a good use of my time. I'll leave the opinion shit to others here. Let the people seeking advice figure out if a poster has an agenda, or a biased viewpoint.

Maybe those people who racked up a ton of posts, chicklets, and rep points (by begging in the Visitor's Forum), can put their new found awesome power to some good use by actually answering peoples questions with honest, complete, and accurate answers. No "sound bites", no sweeping generalizations about mics in a particular price range, or because of country of origin.

I put the possibility of that happening right up there with world peace.

 

[giraffe]

if it makes any differance harvey
after a little while here you get a pritty good feel for who to listen to,
and i'd personally rather you give opinions.
if every one with worthwhile opinions thought like that (not that i blame you really)

everyone would end up getting advice from people like me

push on man, some of ou appricate the effort.

 

[giraffe]

the same statement goes for some other people on the bbs
the ones with opinions worth reading
you know who you are.

 

[chessrock]

Maybe those people who racked up a ton of posts, chicklets, and rep points (by begging in the Visitor's Forum), can put their new found awesome power to some good use by actually answering peoples questions with honest, complete, and accurate answers. No "sound bites", no sweeping generalizations about mics in a particular price range, or because of country of origin.

Some of us would like to, but unfortunately it seems like the fear of retaliation has gotten to the point where someone can't actually post an honest, truthful opinion any more. The old spam police have basically been unseated, and it's the Opinion Police who have full control now.

And from the looks of things, it appears you've forged a strong aliance with that faction. You've got more experience and knowlege than all of us combined ... and you're far more helpful than anyone else who posts here as well. I'd say it's about high time you start leading by example and become part of the solution, rather than part of the problem that you complain about, yet simultaneously helped create.

.

 

[XLR]

if it makes any differance harvey
after a little while here you get a pritty good feel for who to listen to,
and i'd personally rather you give opinions...
...push on man, some of ou appricate the effort.

Well said giraffe. I'll second that.

Tim

 

[noisedude]

Maybe those people who racked up a ton of posts, chicklets, and rep points (by begging in the Visitor's Forum), can put their new found awesome power to some good use by actually answering peoples questions with honest, complete, and accurate answers.

Thanks. You know the reason this website became a social place for people like me, Eddie (Rokket), Ryan (Cellardweller), Dave (Bent Rabbit), Norman (MadAudio) and so on? Because all the people who really knew their shit legged it over the lack of moderation.

This forum has become a ship of fools, the blind leading the blind.

I understand why you guys left but please don't be swiping at people like me who are having a laugh with what's left. The rep point thing is ridiculous and the absence of moderation is stifling, but the cream still rises and the silent majority still read and respect your posts.

 

[Brent Casey]

Some of us would like to, but unfortunately it seems like the fear of retaliation has gotten to the point where someone can't actually post an honest, truthful opinion any more. The old spam police have basically been unseated, and it's the Opinion Police who have full control now.

And from the looks of things, it appears you've forged a strong aliance with that faction. You've got more experience and knowlege than all of us combined ... and you're far more helpful than anyone else who posts here as well. I'd say it's about high time you start leading by example and become part of the solution, rather than part of the problem that you complain about, yet simultaneously helped create.

.

Keith - Am I part of "That Faction"?
I've never really been a part of A Faction before and it sounds kind of cool. It's a somewhat pejorative term, but I guess that comes with the territory.
As far as retaliation goes...I don't really know how to go about retaliating against you. The only thing that comes to mind - and don't laugh, is to strike you with a stalk of celery. But I'm not really sure why I'm doing that. What exactly is the nature of this "retaliation" that you fear? What is supposed to happen?
I'm assuming you're talking about A 'PMI Faction' here, so if I'm wrong about that, please disregard the above.

Brent Casey

 

[noisedude]

All I know is that the second my exams are done I will have no reason to be sat at my desk all day - the books will go, the monitors and mixer will come back in and you people will only hear from me when I bring my shoddy home-made holy-crap-that-gear-is-so-not-pro recordings to the MP3 clinic!

 

[DJL]

Relax and enjoy life...

I plan to do just that: stay active, and try to help people. What I WO'N'T do any more is express opinions about what gear to get, or which is better.

This forum has become a very hostile environment; very different from what it was when I first came here. I'm not going to get into debates over the choice of any particular brands of tools. It's not a good use of my time. I'll leave the opinion shit to others here. Let the people seeking advice figure out if a poster has an agenda, or a biased viewpoint.

Maybe those people who racked up a ton of posts, chicklets, and rep points (by begging in the Visitor's Forum), can put their new found awesome power to some good use by actually answering peoples questions with honest, complete, and accurate answers. No "sound bites", no sweeping generalizations about mics in a particular price range, or because of country of origin.

I put the possibility of that happening right up there with world peace.

Does that also mean you won't be plugging the T3 and etc anymore? Anyway... it's good to know you will continue to be active on hr.com and help people.

By the way... I read your health isn't real good... I'm very sorry to hear that... and I wish you the best. You may want to consider not letting yourself get all worked up over some people having fun and enjoying themselves on the visitors board and etc... IMO, life is too short for that... just a thought you might want to consider.

 

[Harvey Gerst]

And from the looks of things, it appears you've forged a strong aliance with that faction. You've got more experience and knowlege than all of us combined ... and you're far more helpful than anyone else who posts here as well. I'd say it's about high time you start leading by example and become part of the solution, rather than part of the problem that you complain about, yet simultaneously helped create.

Sorry, but that's not in my "job description". If I'm the cause of this mess, then I sincerely apologize to everyone here for almost totally destroying the worth of this forum. Over the last four years here, I honestly thought I was "giving back to the community" some of what others taught me. Maybe I went about it the wrong way; if so, I apologize again.

I'll let my equipment locker serve as my recommendations for products. If something isn't there, and it's expensive, it probably just means that I can't afford it.

My opinions are just that: MY opinions. If they have any value, it's because I try to test something very carefully, and as completely as I can - before I make any judgements. And I don't let price or country of origin affect my judgement. The exceptions to that only occur when consistency and Quality Control might be important factors.

Here, it seems that careful evaluations are pretty well worthless, when you have members who seem to pounce on any product and pronounce it unworthy of consideration, if it comes from China. "Cheap Chinese crap" seems to be a catchphrase for some people here, and I don't like to see people painting with that broad a brush.

I'm tired of defending myself here. From now on, I'll just keep my opinions to myself. I think I still have a lot to offer this BBS in the way of techniques, circuit explanations, placements, mixing, and speaker design. Except for explanations about microphone theory, or how to tear something apart, or history of a particular mic, I'm done with the Microphone forum.

And for the record, I haven't formed any alliences with anybody. Yes, I'm now friends with Alan and Brent, but I'm still friends with Wayne at MXL, and a ton of people in the industry. Some of their products I own; some I lust for, and others, I'll never afford, even at cost.

And some products, I don't particularly like, even if a friend makes it. My likes and dislikes are no secret. The difference is that my reasons for not liking something are clearly stated, and based on facts and testing, not based on an agenda.

 

[noisedude]

Does that also mean you won't be plugging the T3 in C1/B1 threads and etc anymore?

I take responsibility for that - I wanted to catch him while he was around to ask him about it. You won't hear me mention it again til I get a chance to write a review... which I'm sure you're waiting for with great anticipation!

You may want to consider not letting yourself get all worked up over some people having fun and enjoying themselfs on the visitors board and etc

I think this is good advice. I've noticed the older generation have more trouble disconnecting 'reality' from 'internet forums', and I'm guilty of it myself (the exception to my own rule?). Basically ... seriously don't let this shit affect you ... it's not worth it.

If I was successfully doing that myself I probably wouldn't even be writing this apologetic though.

 

[DJL]

Sorry, but that's not in my "job description". If I'm the cause of this mess, then I sincerely apologize to everyone here for almost totally destroying the worth of this forum. Over the last four years here, I honestly thought I was "giving back to the community" some of what others taught me. Maybe I went about it the wrong way; if so, I apologize again.

I'll let my equipment locker serve as my recommendations for products. If something isn't there, and it's expensive, it probably just means that I can't afford it.

My opinions are just that: MY opinions. If they have any value, it's because I try to test something very carefully, and as completely as I can - before I make any judgements. And I don't let price or country of origin affect my judgement. The exceptions to that only occur when consistency and Quality Control might be important factors.

Here, it seems that careful evaluations are pretty well worthless, when you have members who seem to pounce on any product and pronounce it unworthy of consideration, if it comes from China. "Cheap Chinese crap" seems to be a catchphrase for some people here, and I don't like to see people painting with that broad a brush.

I'm tired of defending myself here. From now on, I'll just keep my opinions to myself. I think I still have a lot to offer this BBS in the way of techniques, circuit explanations, placements, mixing, and speaker design. Except for explanations about microphone theory, or how to tear something apart, or history of a particular mic, I'm done with the Microphone forum.

And for the record, I haven't formed any alliences with anybody. Yes, I'm now friends with Alan and Brent, but I'm still friends with Wayne at MXL, and a ton of people in the industry. Some of their products I own; some I lust for, and others, I'll never afford, even at cost.

And some products, I don't particularly like, even if a friend makes it. My likes and dislikes are no secret. The difference is that my reasons for not liking something are clearly stated, and based on facts and testing, not based on an agenda.

Come on Harvey... relax and don't let yourself get all worked up... you know darn well chessrock, I and everyone else here all appreciate you and your help.

 

[Harvey Gerst]

Does that also mean you won't be plugging the T3 and etc anymore? Anyway... it's good to know you will continue to be active on hr.com and help people.

By the way... I read your health isn't real good... I'm very sorry to hear that... and I wish you the best. You may want to consider not letting yourself get all worked up over some people having fun and enjoying themselfs on the visitors board and etc... just a thought you might want to consider.

The only mic in the SP line that I would buy (at this point in our collection) is the T3, not because the others SP's are bad, but because we have most of those bases covered. I don't have enough money to do that right now.

My health is okay, not great, but better than most of my peers (who are pretty much all dead). I'll be 68 in 13 days, still smoke 3+ packs a day, and live on junk food (when I remember to eat at all). My eyes are starting to go (after two eye surgeries), and my allergies are getting worse. Except for the really quiet stuff (very low levels of hum and hiss), I can still do a pretty good mix, and I'm still pretty good at designing stuff.

I'm not worked up about people having fun on the board. I just thought the Visitors Forum was primarily for... oh well, nevermind. If you want to start a thread there, telling everyone how much you've changed and begging points for yourself, go for it. I just found it amusing, and a little sad; you really haven't changed at all (as witnessed by your first line in this quote).

Anyway, I won't stand in the way of your agenda, nor contribute any more fuel to your fires. Go for it, DJL - I'm done here, except as noted in my previous post.

 

[noisedude]

I'm not worked up about people having fun on the board. I just thought the Visitors Forum was primarily for... oh well, nevermind.

For those of us who want to step out of the party politics of the Dragon Cave, the visitors forum serves a purpose. It only got nasty once ...

... and I won't comment on the rest of your post for the exact same reaon.

 

[DJL]

Hi chessrock... I see you're reading the thread... I hear what your saying (this thread is a good example) but give the old man a break, his heart might stop ticking. I'm begging you... lets just drop it. Thanks bro, Don.

 

[DJL]

For those of us who want to step out of the party politics of the Dragon Cave, the visitors forum serves a purpose. It only got nasty once ...

Yeah, I agree... and noisedude and I are both trying hard not to let that happen again.

... and I won't comment on the rest of your post for the exact same reaon.

Yeah, I agree... lets take the lead by dropping it and give Harvey a break.

 

[noisedude]

Way too far that time

Hi chessrock... I see you're reading the thread... I hear what your saying (this thread is a good example) but give the old man a break, his heart might stop ticking. I'm begging you... lets just drop it. Thanks bro, Don.

Nope, sorry, that's way over the line. That is just distilled, pure, horribleness. It's those snidey comments that have marked your 'new man' period, but are you going to welcome on Harvey in the same way you used Stephen Paul? You know what I'm talking about.

 

[noisedude]

Arguing about gear is one thing ... and I'm cool with not arguing with you about gear again. But this is a guy's life you're making fun of here.

 

[sdelsolray]

I've been staying away from threads like this for awhile, but since the post count on this thread topped 100, I guess my curiosity won out.

My only thought is: Why do so many of us think we're so important?