Behringer and the hits keep coming...

[Lectric_Lab]

Read the [posts] lots of them and differing views. Glad mari got the berry speaker fixed...I personally don't use Behringer gear, but I have friends that do and mostly they have had problems...guitar player in our band is on 2nd amp in 8 months, could have bought a decent amp by now, plus he owns the foh mixer, its a Berry5000 powered sumthin' like that, its got problems in the Fx's section, buzzing etc, OTOH another friend runs all Berry in his PA, and hasn't had 1 single problem with any of the gear. If I were to buy any of this gear I think buying at my local music store would be best, then I'd have someone to get face-face with, and get it fixed if needed.

I do own several pieces of Alesis gear, the HD24XR works excellent...did have a problem with my Masterlink which I love, called Full Compass where I bought it, got a Rep email and had it turned around in two weeks, yes...it was the LCD going chinese on me. I really think buying gear is a hit and miss thing, you either get a good piece or problems regardless of manufacturer, but I am a believer in gettin' what ya pay for too, fortunately most of my stuff has been good reliable gear with few problems. I've only dealt with Alesis one time, got good results...and Carvin Amps FOH same....Peavy, local store turned Delta Blues fried transformer around, fast and free. That's about it for me. jmo's

 

[moon]

I own a V-amp 2 and 2 mic pre-amps.
They do their jobs and they sound OK.
I have a PMH3000 for small live gigs, and is OK.

I also have the UB 1202, and that one is just crap.
Low noise??? My ass!! It sounds like a 747 is coming over.

 

[Mish]

I think Behringer are awesome. I own Tube pre-amplifier, equalizer stop-box and Xenyx 1002 mixer. Yep I can't afford Yamaha but I'm very picky on the quality of my equipment and if I wouldn't be happy I'd return it back to the store. At this point I can run my guitar thru MT-2 metalzone + TS-7 tubescreamer and hear not even a hum.

 

[superspit]

I think Behringer are awesome. I own Tube pre-amplifier, equalizer stop-box and Xenyx 1002 mixer. Yep I can't afford Yamaha but I'm very picky on the quality of my equipment and if I wouldn't be happy I'd return it back to the store. At this point I can run my guitar thru MT-2 metalzone + TS-7 tubescreamer and hear not even a hum.

great to hear mate!!..ace stuff!

 

[lenMCHC]

i just got the BDI21 and GDI21 in the mail for 60$...
for scratch tracks, these are pretty unbeatable in value.

 

[bluemoon45]

I've had some okay behringer and some bad behringer... I wouldnt use any of their amps for shure

 

[Diverdown]

My PA is all behringer eurorack1832fx and no complaints, two 1500watt power amps, eq , all no complaints
Ive an xm8500 mic that works very well and in side by side comps to sm58's isnt lacking at all
I did pick up a 3 pack of cheap 1800 dynamc mikes that sound ok but pick up floor and handeling noise something terrible but fo 60 bucks my expectations werent all that high

 

[Dani Vondoom]

I have a few pieces of Behringer gear and over all I'm fairly satisfied with it. I use a set of C-2's as drum overheads and I use a Xenyx 1204fx mixer in my recording setup and I've never had a problem with them. I will say that every guitar amp I've heard made by them sucks, and their live vocal mics (the 58 rip offs) don't stand up to a stiff breeze. I also find that their guitar pedals are poorly made and rarely sound all that great. The bass player in my band uses a Behri racktuner and it works great for him. All in all I'd say the gear is really hit or miss. I did a lot of research talking to local musicians and gear junkies before I bought the stuff I bought.

 

[Supercreep]

I have heard decent sounds come out of cheap gear.


I think the main point, except for those cases where the product destroys tone (such as the autocom series compressor from Behringer), is that quality control and customer service are important factors to consider when outfitting a studio or putting together a rig for performing.

Not having problems is a good thing. I bet I'll never have an issue with my MP-2NV - and although I like just as well the sound my Joemeek stuff makes, they are worlds apart quality-wise.

You can torture a good sound from a cheap amp. You can get great sounds from modelers - I own a few, too. But I wouldn't want to have to rely on them as my only amp/compressor/pre/whatever.

Buy cheap, buy twice.

That said, enjoy your equipment and I hope you have zero issues. I'm happy if you're happy.

 

[jvkeboxHERO]

i used to be one of those people that needed to use name brand stuff, that wouldnt waste a dime on a company like behringer and id just save and save and save till i could get something expensive bc the name made me feel safe.

i dont think behringer is a great company, but they make legit, decent gear, for very cheap. and for those of us that dont have thousands to throw around, cheap gear is huuuuge.

i have a behringer compressor/limiter and it works great. no problems. my friend has a v-amp says its just as good as a pod. i might buy a behringer mixer for $220 in stead of $600 on a mackie. i also have a floor monitor of theres. its solid. cheaper than the yamaha that was exactly the same.

 

[60's guy]

i used to be one of those people that needed to use name brand stuff, that wouldnt waste a dime on a company like behringer and id just save and save and save till i could get something expensive bc the name made me feel safe.

Could you be a bit more specific about the specific problems you have encountered with higher end equipment and quote the brand names of the higher end equipment that you have had bad experience with that has caused you to feel unsafe using higher quality manufactured equipment?

 

[_brian_]

i hate behringer almost as much as i hate thomann, i couldn't belive the difference in sound when i bought a mackie mixer!! Beringer mixers are sterile & suck the life out of everything IMO. Thomann, what a forest of dicks!! I bought 2 thermionic valves from them for my mesa amp, the package arrived. The box was a foot square with NO extra packing. The valves must have been jumping arround inside the box the whole journey!! I didn't get in touch with them because I was so angry, I know I would have flipped if I contacted them because it was so stupid, careless and lazy to package something so small like that. NEVER AGAIN!! Then they've got the cheek to get their stupid advert on sound on sound every week over two pages?!!?!

better ---- f*ck off
faster ---- we all know why
cheaper -- no your not actually, even though you're pros at cutting corners

First & last dealings with thomann

 

[Mish]

Could you be a bit more specific about the specific problems you have encountered with higher end equipment and quote the brand names of the higher end equipment that you have had bad experience with that has caused you to feel unsafe using higher quality manufactured equipment?

He didn't say that at all. What he said is that he feel as safe using not-brand-name equipment now as he was with much more expensive high-end equipment.

i hate behringer almost as much as i hate thomann, i couldn't belive the difference in sound when i bought a mackie mixer!! Beringer mixers are sterile & suck the life out of everything IMO.

No.
I had used Mackie CFX20 for half a year, and I stopped after I purchased a MUCH less expensive Xenyx. Did it sound better? No. Did it sound worse? No. I just couldn't hear any difference at all. Big question - why pay 4-5 times more?

 

[_brian_]

"I had used Mackie CFX20 for half a year, and I stopped after I purchased a MUCH less expensive Xenyx. Did it sound better? No. Did it sound worse? No. I just couldn't hear any difference at all. Big question - why pay 4-5 times more?"

Haven't used a CFX20 (i guess you're not talking about the new mkII) or a new behringer Xenyx mixer. I can however compare the eurorack mixers to the VLZ pro mixers which I know for sure were aimed at the same market. The mackie VLZ pro was great in comparison to the eurorack. So don't be cheeky mish it's my opinion nothing else "no" . Behringer products (in general) are IMO good for only one situation, that is if you don't have anything at all. There are undoubtably - ok things that behringer produce, but to think of them as world class would be insane.

"Did it sound better? No. Did it sound worse? No. I just couldn't hear any difference at all"

This is the feeling I get from behringer, I guess they just try their hardest not to be found out. They don't try and create anything of their own, they copy someone else and saturate the market with their stuff hoping that people can't tell the difference. Mackie don't sound like allen & heath, behringer don't sound like soundcraft. They are all different. Perhaps Mish you need better monitors so that you can tell the difference. Perhaps you need to train your ears so that you can notice the subtle differences - I don't know.

 

[Mish]

Lol if they try hard to copy someone else and do a great job at this, why would I bother spending twice or thrice on a subtle difference .

It's really not the price factor that I like Behringer for. I've used DOD, Digitech and Zoom because they were cheap, and now I only use Roland/Ibanez because while they're 3-4 times more expensive, it's justified why they're more expensive. Well, and Behringer now. I had to buy an EQ pedal couple of months ago so I went to my local guitar shop and tried Boss GE-7 and Behringer EQ700 . The only thing Boss had better was the faders control - but that's one thing you set up once and don't need to touch again. Otherwise these were two equally good pedals, one for 40 bucks, another for almost 200. I saved the money and bought V-Amp couple of months later, again 3 times less expensive than POD (which based on many reviews isn't even that good at all).

 

[Mish]

I wonder how many of you disslike Behringer products really just because they're made in Germany

 

[WhiteStrat]

I wonder how many of you disslike Behringer products really just because they're made in Germany

Yeah, just like everyone hates BMWs & Mercedes...

 

[_brian_]

Lol if they try hard to copy someone else and do a great job at this, why would I bother spending twice or thrice on a subtle difference .

I didn't say they did a good job nevermind a great job

I had to buy an EQ pedal couple of months ago so I went to my local guitar shop and tried Boss GE-7 and Behringer EQ700 . The only thing Boss had better was the faders control - but that's one thing you set up once and don't need to touch again. Otherwise these were two equally good pedals, one for 40 bucks, another for almost 200.

Do you not think the build quality was better with the boss pedal? Effects pedals are a little different as well, I use a dod punkifier because it sounds terrible - but it's that terrible sound I'm looking for! In a mixer in a mixer I look for something a little differant

 

[Mish]

I didn't say they did a good job nevermind a great job



Do you not think the build quality was better with the boss pedal? Effects pedals are a little different as well, I use a dod punkifier because it sounds terrible - but it's that terrible sound I'm looking for! In a mixer in a mixer I look for something a little differant

Actually about the build quality - I use AC adaptors but I was still curious how the hell do you changed batteries in the Behri pedals (they have 2 'push inside' bolts on the side but I had no idea about them at the time). Spent 2 hours trying to crack the top with a screwdriver, and failed! Besides it's never on bypass, I don't even have to stomp on it

For what it's worth, I've always been pleased with my Behringer products (over a half of my rig) and never had any malfunctions either.

 

[Mish]

Yeah, just like everyone hates BMWs & Mercedes...

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