Behringer and the hits keep coming...

[cusebassman]

You wouldn't know the difference if you heard someone play through a $2,000 Marshall, a $100 Epiphone tube amp, a modeling amp or the Behringer. Get over it. All you people who think you have golden ears crack me up.

I honestly don't think that's a judgement you can make without putting someone to the test.

At the same time, I am not admitting that I could hear the difference... I play mostly acoustic guitar However, I do believe you would hear a discernable difference between a stack built from entirely Behri stuff, and a Marshall all-tube, or a nice Fender combo with 4 10's or 2 12's. It may not be night and day, but it would most likely be there.

In the end its the cost difference that really rules us all - I've played my Heritage archtop through a $69 Peavey practice amp at a friend's house before, and for the volume, it sounded damn good. Playing through my Fender Blues DeVille is a sweeter sound, but probably to most, not worth the 800 dollar difference (or the 60 pound difference, eek). Its worth it to me not only for the sound but also for the little bit of pleasure I get out of owning a very nice, versatile amp.

I wasn't knocking your sound (I haven't heard it, so I can't judge) - I was just taken aback by the fact that behringer at some point in time built guitar cabs. If they used speakers from a reputable company, then yes - the thing probably sounds fine - but if they are using something they manufactured, there's a distinct possiblity that it is only a mediocre sound. Its purely a brand judgement, but every piece of Berhi gear I've owned has to some extent noticeably degraded an otherwise good signal.

 

[TAE]

I haven't had a reply from them yet so they must be thinking about the flaming email I sent them!

Oh yeah they're probably having a special board meeting to discuss a settlement to keep you quiet.

Sorry Mari couldn't resist...

They probably have 100's maybe even thousands of complaint e-mails like yours every week and one underpaid soul to answer them all...maybe


Bottom line make the store replace them or give you your money back. If they replace them and you have the same problem, depending on the store "policy" get your money back or a freekin, stinkin store freekin credit.. ( but I'm not bitter!)

Good luck.. I know lots of peeps that have had good luck with Behringer in general.

 

[Toker41]

You wouldn't know the difference if you heard someone play through a $2,000 Marshall, a $100 Epiphone tube amp, a modeling amp or the Behringer. Get over it. All you people who think you have golden ears crack me up.

You guys that can't tell the difference crack me up. Last thing we need is another wannabe that can't tell his tone is shit.

"Golden ears" is a rare thing, and I don't see anybody here claiming that. However, a "Trained" ear is something most people can obtain.

Really does crack me up when some guy I'm recording wants to use his Crate amp because it's "my sound, dude". Usually doesn't take long to snap them out of that. Cracks me up just as much, when right after the recording is done, they start buying better amps, and guitars.

Try a Boogie. Might open your eyes (ears) to a few things.

I'm a firm believer that every recording experience should be a learning experience for everyone involved.

 

[Chris Tondreau]

We did our album through a certain amount of Behringer gear. 80% of the tracks were recorded through the UB2442-FX PRO mixer, with the other 20% (lead vocals) going through tube pre.

All guitar solos done with a V-amp, including the feedback during the intro of Unsaid.

Drum overheads - Behringer ECM8000s.

Other main gear - Delta 1010, Peavey TMP-1 tube pre, TC Electronic M300... a bunch of other stuff.

I've gotten WAY more positive comments about the sound quality on our album than criticisms. Sure, it's not Bob Rock level production, but most think it sounds pretty decent.

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Chris

 

[leadfootdriver]

I bought a quad compressor that was a great buy for what I intended to do; which was to have something cheap that did the job.

 

[Jakedafake]

I have the Behringer GMX210 V-Tone analog modelling guitar amp and consider it to be one of the best pieces of music gear I ever bought.

The V-Tone amps are the best 'bang for your buck' buys out there bar none.

After I had played the speakers in for a while it really started to sound sweet.

Great sound (especially the distortion) and superb features for the price.

27 analog amp/speaker models (aka Tech 21)
2x30 watts stereo
2x10" speakers
99 digital effects
footswitch with channel switching/effect on,off/tuner
plenty of in/outs on the back + MIDI in

Check them out and be amazed.

 

[Guitarer]

Some of their stuff sounds nice...when they work.

You've got a 25% chance it works, 25% chance it's got something wrong with it, and 50% chance it doesn't work from day one.

Not good odds.

 

[ridgeback]

The V-Tone amps are the best 'bang for your buck' buys out there bar none.

Are you on drugs or what?!? How many amps have you played through. How many do you own? What guitars do you have? Awwwww NEVERMIND! Sorry but........BULL!

 

[superspit]

Are you on drugs or what?!? How many amps have you played through. How many do you own? What guitars do you have? Awwwww NEVERMIND! Sorry but........BULL!

my V-Amp Pro faaaaaaaaarkin' raaaaaaaaaaawks!
Not too sure about their 'all-in-one-amps' though, only because I've never really played too much thru them.........I guess I just don't own enough guitars/drugs.....

 

[Jakedafake]

Are you on drugs or what?!? How many amps have you played through. How many do you own? What guitars do you have? Awwwww NEVERMIND! Sorry but........BULL!

I have 6 guitars, 2 basses, a drug stash and have owned and played through many amps both solid state and valve including a 60's Vox AC30 with blue Jensens.

I know the Berries make your hair stand on end and make you want to go Grrrrr and start barking at the moon... but we are comparing the amps' sound/features at a certain price point. Comparing apples to apples not apples to oranges.

Don't be a gear snob just listen.

 

[ridgeback]

I'm far from a gear snob. It's just that statement kind of slapped me. Best bang for the buck? I had a MIC2200 that did just exactly that in my rack. BANG! However I also have a COMP4 that does it's job quite well. I just don't get the modeling thang so to hear you say what you said....kind of urghed me. Price point? Give me an Epi Junior and some decent stomps.

 

[sacredhill]

Behringer

"Behringer is a step down from mackie and mackie is a step down from excrement... you do the math."

Anyone would admit that Behringer isn't up there with Neve or SSL. But how many of us with small project studios can afford that level of desk? I couldn't come up with the cash for a small Yamaha or Tascam console, so I bought a Behringer EX-9000 Eurodesk.

It has performed like a champion for me. It is surprisingly quiet for an analog console. The six Aux curcuits and B mix section make this a very versatile board. I use it both with an Alesis HD24XR and three original ADATs. I'll occasionally MIDI some keyboard sequencers in with the setup, giving me nearly 70 tracks. Under normal circumstances, I always use a external preamp before the console, and get my tone and gain from there.

I know it's not God's gift, but as long as my clients don't complain.............


And for you Alesis haters out there, not one single piece of my Alesis gear, from the ADATs to my Masterlink, has ever given me any trouble. I've put my ADAT recordings up against Nuendo and Cakewalk recordings and my stuff sounded just as good. I also charge alot less than those guys. Some of us have luck ,others don't. And by the way, the Mackie 1604VLZ was a great analog board for the money, and their original powered speakers kicked ass. I just cannot agree with you.

 

[Toker41]

The V-amp pro has some of the best clean sounds I have ever come across. The overdrive/distortion sucks balls, though. The Line6 Pod sucked all the way around, especially at 4 times the price.

 

[superspit]

The V-amp pro has some of the best clean sounds I have ever come across. The overdrive/distortion sucks balls, though. The Line6 Pod sucked all the way around, especially at 4 times the price.

the v-amp-pro?....mmmm...that's odd.....if anything I would have thought the other way around???
Anyway....I love the cleans too!....
I found the L1,L2,S1,S2 etc global setup functions are super critical to get these units sounding right.

 

[Lumpy]

...I returned the speaker at a cost of €68 which I wont get back. After emailing them continuously for several weeks they finally got back and said my speaker had to go to Behringer 'coz they couldn't fix it. Fair enough I said, just send it back asap.

So, it came back today, I plugged it in and its even worse than before!! What'll I do now??...

...A local guy said he'd have a go at fixing it but I'll loose my warranty if I let him...

I'm confused about why you're worried about your warranty. Was the item under warranty? If so, why won't Behringer simply replace it? If they're not going to replace it, then there's no risk of voiding the warranty.

But I'd guess it's probably more expensive to have a qualified tech look at it than it is to simply buy a new one.

Of the many thousands of dollars worth of Beri stuff I own, I've had exactly ONE item fail. Beri replaced it with a brand new one.

If anything OUT of warranty failed, I'd not waste time trying to repair it. I'd simply replace it.


Lumpy

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[JasonBird]

I have some behringer rack gear, the vintager tube stuff, and it all has worked with no problems other than it can be a bit noisy. for the money, it's a great pace to start out. learn how to use the gear, and then slowly upgrade from there to better stuff. Just my $.02worth!!

JasonBird

 

[yoyo]

it's good value for the money, good stuff IMO

 

[superspit]

I have some behringer rack gear, the vintager tube stuff, and it all has worked with no problems other than it can be a bit noisy. for the money, it's a great pace to start out. learn how to use the gear, and then slowly upgrade from there to better stuff. Just my $.02worth!!

JasonBird

Hi JB,
there are actually many professionals who use certain products from this brand, all the time.
The equipment is not necessarily for beginners, it's simply more accessible to them... There are also rich beginners who can start with TC electronics!!
There are also fools like me who have bought their EQ's.....

 

[Blankw]

I honestly don't think their equipment is worth the money you pay for it. I've had experience with a few different behringer products... I have a UB1202 mixer here that i just don't think is repairable; the power supply blew for some reason (and when i power the mixer from a different source, it fails to work properly, it appears to be supplying a constant voltage to the headphone out). I've used some behringer headphones... they were sensitive, but still didn't sound right. Obviously this is a far from complete scrutiny of their products, but i've seen and heard enough. I'm not going to buy their things if I can avoid them (but since i'm unemployed, i'm probably not going to be buying any equipment for quite a while)

 

[cusebassman]

Hi JB,
there are actually many professionals who use certain products from this brand, all the time.
The equipment is not necessarily for beginners, it's simply more accessible to them... There are also rich beginners who can start with TC electronics!!
There are also fools like me who have bought their EQ's.....

What's sad is that their two-channel Vintager preamp costs the same as an M-Audio DMP-3 (roughly). They aren't even in the same league. *sigh*