Behringer and the hits keep coming...

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What do you think about Behringer products?

  • Great quality and value for money!

    Votes: 354 41.6%

  • Cheap but sometimes dodgy! I wouldn't buy core equipment from them. Not reliable enough.

    Votes: 276 32.5%

  • Awful. Cheapness is no substitute for quality!

    Votes: 102 12.0%

  • I dont give a crap, I dont have any.

    Votes: 118 13.9%
  • Total voters
    850
That's pretty funny right there.

And I don't think Sgt Pepper would have come out so well if it was recorded into a Portastudio with an MXL 990 and a 50 dollar Behringer Pre.

Sure, wonders could be worked with even the simplest equipment, but there's a line man...
 
yes, and sgt. pepper's was using early gear certainly, but also insanely high quality really well built and best of breed in it's day type gear. 4 tracks were leading edge still in the day. Top of the line but by today's standards really old school ribbon mics and tube mics. old old ol technology used in the compressors. You know, the sort of stuff that costs $$$$ per item to buy used these days still. Definitely not behringer stuff.

But certainly, if a product has something useful to offer in it's tone, then a great engineer will get the best out of it. If you listen to sgt. pepper's there is an obvious amount of very audible distortion on a lot of the tracks, a combination of the technology used back then. Some of it was intentional, but not all. But it's part of the charm...

And I believe it was 4 track then bouncing to another 4 track, and back and forth like that, not two synced together or anything, in case people are wondering... although I wasn't there so I could well be wrong :-)

Cheers,
Don
 
cusebassman said:
That's pretty funny right there.

And I don't think Sgt Pepper would have come out so well if it was recorded into a Portastudio with an MXL 990 and a 50 dollar Behringer Pre.

Sure, wonders could be worked with even the simplest equipment, but there's a line man...
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Listen to some of Joe Meek's early hit records... he used some really crummy gear (some he bought, some he clooged together) that would make any Behringer gear sound great!

Same thing goes for the early Motown hits... an old beater mono reel to reel and an old mic hung from the rafters of a garage.

Again - it's the talent, not the gear. ;)
 
Behringer is a step down from mackie and mackie is a step down from excrement... you do the math.
 
What I love the most is how a music gear site can refuse negative reviews on Behringer gear. I bought a XENYX 2442FX which developed serious static problems. I got a replacement that also developed the same problem. I got my money back afterwards and posted a bad review on the site I bought from. No go. The review was honest and as factual as i could make it but it never went online. So I posted another one. Same deal.

That's pretty sad if you ask me. Goes to show, you can't trust the user reviews on gear wholesaler sites. God forbid you know the truth about their crappy but high selling junk.
 
Nothing behringer in my signal path, but i've got their headphone amp, and as long as it works i don't care until i can afford the expensive hp amps.
 
Treeline said:
I've been pretty critical about Behringer over the years because I feel the company's hype way oustrips its products in a way that gets newbies to buy in with inaccurate expectations - and the outfit is notorious for ripping off other company's designs in a way that has gotten them pretty seriously whacked in court proceedings - to the tune of a few million bucks. I don't like predatory corporate behavior.

I've had three Behringer mixers since I started getting involved in sound, mostly for live installation or use, and all three failed in some way after a few years. And if I get into talking about their "tube" preamps, with the led's in back of the windowed tubes to make it look like they're glowing - my blood pressure just spikes.

But if you know what you want and have your eyes open, the company has interesting stuff. I do small venue (read "damn little if any money involved") live sound and have needed to tame multiple sets of monitors, yet I don't intend to dump $500 into a computerized PA rack controller just yet. I'm more of an analog thinker anyway and menus drive me crazy.

So I just picked up a pair of the Behringer dual 15 band graphic EQs; the feedback sensor lights up an offending band. I like that. I generally use compensating eq after sounding the room so the final graphic eq is used as a manual feedback controller. My signal chain starts with decent mics and Mackie Onyx preamps, and I try to stick with subtractive eq, so crappy sound isn't a problem. Plus the unit has an adjustable low pass filter and summs a dual signal for a sub - I don't know how well, but it's got to be better than what I've been doing to date (separate mixer, no crossover) for subs.

At any rate, it's the right tool at the right price. It works and Ulli didn't rip off a Mackie design for it.
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You have your facts wrong, as most do. They were sued over ONE (1) MIXER. That's it. That mixer isn't even in production anymore, and no payment of settlement was ever made. Mackie is now using cheaper parts from overseas without bothering to pass on the savings (or knowledge for that matter) on to the consumer.

The LEDs designed to look like tubes glowing are a bit cheesy, though. :rolleyes:
 
I have a pair of truth speakers.. passive ones.. They do the job but it's a temporary solution until i get some more money saved...

I know they make some pretty aweful stuff... but a decent engineer can over come just about anything

check this out

http://www.myspace.com/oceancitydefender

it's my buddies side project (he's the one that pretty much got me into recording)

all he uses is a little behr mixer plugged into his sound card

this stuff is a little less impressive because he programmed the kit but he's used this method to record a full drum set getting damn impressive results with such a low budjet studio.


that being said i still wouldn't buy a behr mixer.. just about a week ago i bought a complete new set up .. I could have bought a behr mixer and the delta 1010 but i decided that although i woulda way rather the 1010 over the 1010lt i bought the lt so i could get a better mixer that WASNT a behr. ended up with yamaha mg12 it seems to be solid and the important part is it's not a behr
 
Funny story,

well not really funny more like IM FUCKIN PISSED

So as I just said I have a pair of truth monitors and guess what just happened this weekend



yup


tweeter = done

in a way it's good so I have an excuse to get rid of the last piece berhinger gear i have in my studio.

worst shit ever
 
eeb said:
Funny story,

well not really funny more like IM FUCKIN PISSED

So as I just said I have a pair of truth monitors and guess what just happened this weekend



yup


tweeter = done

in a way it's good so I have an excuse to get rid of the last piece berhinger gear i have in my studio.

worst shit ever
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4 weeks later......resurection!

mmm...that's ashame....my B2031P's (monitors) are still rockin' after 12 months of being driven hard....very hard!!..(especially when I'm playing the git via the V-amp pro thru them...hehehe).
I like them now! (took a while!).
I still buy some Behry stuff....most of it is great, for the price point, some of it is a bit borderline.(dodgy controls/encoders)...but generally happy with the sound.
Anyways...
Spit.
 
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eeb said:
I have a pair of truth speakers.. passive ones.. They do the job but it's a temporary solution until i get some more money saved...

I know they make some pretty aweful stuff... but a decent engineer can over come just about anything

check this out

http://www.myspace.com/oceancitydefender

it's my buddies side project (he's the one that pretty much got me into recording)

all he uses is a little behr mixer plugged into his sound card

this stuff is a little less impressive because he programmed the kit but he's used this method to record a full drum set getting damn impressive results with such a low budjet studio.


that being said i still wouldn't buy a behr mixer.. just about a week ago i bought a complete new set up .. I could have bought a behr mixer and the delta 1010 but i decided that although i woulda way rather the 1010 over the 1010lt i bought the lt so i could get a better mixer that WASNT a behr. ended up with yamaha mg12 it seems to be solid and the important part is it's not a behr
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Check out "Hopes Fading" at:

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=2878&alid=-1

Was done on a Behringer mixer, with a delta 1010, and an Oktava mic (with an MXL603, also). I think it sounds better than the other stuff on that link, which I recorded at a multi-million dollar studio.

BTW...my Behringer mixer is now 5 years old, and never had a moment of trouble with it.
 
I personally have never had any problems with Behringer equipment. We have a 4x12 guitar cab. and it is over 3 years old and still works fine and sounds like gold. Plus it's built like a tank in my opinion, going through three years of moving, getting knocked over and whatever else has happened to it. But overall i've never had any problems with behringer equipment.
 
You.... play through a Behringer guitar cabinet.



Must be some sweet tone coming outta that thing.
 
cusebassman said:
You.... play through a Behringer guitar cabinet.



Must be some sweet tone coming outta that thing.
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You wouldn't know the difference if you heard someone play through a $2,000 Marshall, a $100 Epiphone tube amp, a modeling amp or the Behringer. Get over it. All you people who think you have golden ears crack me up.
 
Toker41 said:
Check out "Hopes Fading" at:

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=2878&alid=-1

Was done on a Behringer mixer, with a delta 1010, and an Oktava mic (with an MXL603, also). I think it sounds better than the other stuff on that link, which I recorded at a multi-million dollar studio.

BTW...my Behringer mixer is now 5 years old, and never had a moment of trouble with it.
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bit of a delay...but....
I have a MX-8000A (48/24 Eurodesk)....and I think it's an amazing piece of equipment...and it's a purty blue colour, whick matches my drapes and skirting boards.......what's your desk?
 
superspit said:
bit of a delay...but....
I have a MX-8000A (48/24 Eurodesk)....and I think it's an amazing piece of equipment...and it's a purty blue colour, whick matches my drapes and skirting boards.......what's your desk?
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I've got an MX-9000 that I just finished mixing my band's new CD "Loose Lips" on. Three ADATs, BRC, 24 tracks. M-Audio Octane, Joemeek ThreeQ, lots of other mic pres as the front end for the ADATs, various LDC, SDC, dynamics and ribbon mics, Lexicon and Roland reverbs and multi-effects, too many guitars, basses, amps, drums and other doodads. Sounds great. Excellent spacial imaging and depth, with plenty of clean and quiet headroom. I mixed the stereo masters onto a Tascam MK30II DAT, then mastered the tracks ITB.
 
kid klash said:
I've got an MX-9000 that I just finished mixing my band's new CD "Loose Lips" on. Three ADATs, BRC, 24 tracks. M-Audio Octane, Joemeek ThreeQ, lots of other mic pres as the front end for the ADATs, various LDC, SDC, dynamics and ribbon mics, Lexicon and Roland reverbs and multi-effects, too many guitars, basses, amps, drums and other doodads. Sounds great. Excellent spacial imaging and depth, with plenty of clean and quiet headroom. I mixed the stereo masters onto a Tascam MK30II DAT, then mastered the tracks ITB.
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Glad to see you like your MX 9000.....I wish I could find a meter bridge for mine (MX 8000).....anyways..:)
 
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