Are the Mackie HR824's now made in China?

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Glen,

I want to commend you for your thought-provoking, realistic and unhysterical observations throughout this thread. I find it refreshing to hear views from people who are not misted over with the veils of bigotry and pseudo-ideologically formed bias.

I enjoy coming to this forum and getting information, sometimes participating. But at the same time, it makes me nervous, because I worry that what is being proferred as expert recommendation is no more than a disguise for personal preference, where that preference has no real objective basis.

As it happens, I don't mind brand loyalty or pet hates . . . we don't need to be rational all the time. People are allowed to say "I just don't like brand xxx"; that's fine by me. But I would rather them say that than try to dress up their subjectivity to resemble some kind of external truth: "Brand xxx sucks because it is well known that . . ."

Anyway, thanks for your contributions!
 
i can understand increasing your manufacturing reach, but i just saw a bbc documentary on how they treat chinese workers. although they aren't chained to their workstations like most counterfit slaves, they do work insane hours. (when's the last time you pulled a 30hr shift? if you ever had, it probably wasn't when you were 11 years old.) So yeah, i'm glad i have the older, MADE IN THE USA, mackies. at least the technician who paired my monitors wasn't tuckered out on a long shift. so yeah, i trust that way more.
 
arQer said:
i can understand increasing your manufacturing reach, but i just saw a bbc documentary on how they treat chinese workers. although they aren't chained to their workstations like most counterfit slaves, they do work insane hours. (when's the last time you pulled a 30hr shift? if you ever had, it probably wasn't when you were 11 years old.) So yeah, i'm glad i have the older, MADE IN THE USA, mackies. at least the technician who paired my monitors wasn't tuckered out on a long shift. so yeah, i trust that way more.
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Nice four year thread bump. :rolleyes:
 
arQer said:
i can understand increasing your manufacturing reach, but i just saw a bbc documentary on how they treat chinese workers. although they aren't chained to their workstations like most counterfit slaves, they do work insane hours. (when's the last time you pulled a 30hr shift? if you ever had, it probably wasn't when you were 11 years old.) So yeah, i'm glad i have the older, MADE IN THE USA, mackies. at least the technician who paired my monitors wasn't tuckered out on a long shift. so yeah, i trust that way more.
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Learning about the chinese culture is the first step to understanding what is going on. Here in america, the police, industry workers etc. paid by the hour would NEVER work these kinds of insane hours for overtime pay, right?

Tons of police officers put in MORE hours on private paid details than their regular job. Tons of hourly paid employees fight for all the overtime they can get. Having a thai wife who is 3/4 chinese, with lots of family in china taught me that we in america don't understand their culture and most of thos edocumentaries are judgement of them by us using our living standards as the bar. It is customary in all of asia for children to work within any family and has been for centuries. The family also cares and respects the elderly unlike this screwed up country.
 
i only buy chinese...US made products have become so inferior since 2006 :)
 
kcearl said:
is your dads name the "the world"? :D
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No, but he's a fuckin foreigner. The point is, people from every nation think that the people from their nation are smarter, have more common sense, yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah. tl/dr. ktxby :D
 
I dont agree...most people from Scotland are stupid, zero common sense, etc etc....most, not all ;)
 
My dad said recently with response to my comment about how crap British cars with reliability only coming in with the Japanese cars, that it was because British industry was using older machines whereas Japan had the newest latest machines. When Japanese products first came out they were (in many ways) superior to the British ones.
The Japanese wanted to get ahead and forge a national identity and be rich. They did the R&D thing and came up with new technologies and patents, new methods .. But, compare that to China's ascent - Chinese products were not innovations. They were copies, copies directly based on what had come before, yet with shortcuts in the manufacture.
Where are the innovations that China has made? China has sadly become the World's industrial waste belt. It produces a lot but can it be said to have advanced new knowledge?
 
nzausrec said:
It produces a lot but can it be said to have advanced new knowledge?
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They are one of the leaders in new battery/electric storage technology. They also have many leading theoretical astrophysicists publishing out of there these days.

Give them a little time, they're getting there. Remember, Japan did not have a Communist government to deal with either.

And BTW, whether or not one considers HR824s as "made in China" depends upon one's definition of "made". They are assembled in China, but many, if not most, of the OEM parts that make up those speakers are manufactured elsewhere.

It's like my car, a Chevy, which is assembled in Mexico, but it's not really "made" in Mexico, it's mostly made in the Canada and the US, with the parts shipped down to Mexico for assembly.

The sticky gas pedals on the Toyotas? Not at all Japanese in any way, shape or form. They are designed and manufactured by an American OEM supplier in Cleveland or Cincinnati (I forget which), with many - if not most - of the Toyotas they were put into assembled here in the USA..

My Nikon camera isn't even Japanese, either. It's made and assembled all over the East Asian coast, from Singapore to Korea, depending on which parts and which serial number you want to talk about.

"Made in ____" has very little meaning in these days of inter-globalization unless you want to fill in that blank with a paragraph as long as one of my posts ;).

G.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
"Made in ____" has very little meaning in these days of inter-globalization unless you want to fill in that blank with a paragraph as long as one of my posts ;).

G.
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Gotta love Apple. The back of my iPhone says:
"Designed by Apple in California. Assmebled in China"
:laughings:
 
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