Who Destroyed Metal?

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Who destroyed Metal?

  • myhatbroke

    Votes: 92 39.0%

  • Korn

    Votes: 55 23.3%

  • Bon Jovi

    Votes: 39 16.5%

  • Pearl Jam

    Votes: 21 8.9%

  • Bad Religion

    Votes: 5 2.1%

  • Stryper

    Votes: 24 10.2%
  • Total voters
    236
This thread will never diiiiiiiiieeeee!!!!! Much like metal haha
 
dragonworks said:
I don't know but I am working on it.

Man that stuff really sucks.
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some of the screamo death metal crap yes I agree but some of it is actually good with lyrics that actually has a positive message with meaning.
but then again if the screamo lyrics are positive I can listen to it but if it is a bunch of meaningless garbage I have no desire to listen to it even if the song has a catchy tune.:rolleyes:
I don't like any music with negative messages in the lyrics regardless of the Genre.

as with all genres of music some songs adress life experiences the writer struggled with like Nicky Sixx song Life is beautiful which is really a positive song if you really listen to the lyrics, How I interpit the song is that Sixx had to be flat on his back before he was able to look up.
another example... Ozbornes Crazy train if you listen to the lyrics the song is pretty self explainitory.

believe it or not we use secular songs like this to tie in with the sermon that is being preached on Sunday morning.
a lot of traditonal churches call us heritics but the Pharicees accused our Messiah Yeshua of blasphemy so IMO that puts us in good company.:D

I just thought I would try to take this thread in another directoin to get other opinions of why people listen to the music they like to listen to and perform.

it is amazing what you can learn about a person just by the genre of music they listen to.
 
its not dead! it merely became less popular in mainstream music. music is constantly changing in trends and will continue to do so. who gives a fuck anyways about peoples opinions about the current state of music or how popular it is or isnt, just listen to what you like, regardless.

-dave
 
Nu-Metal

While I do like their first couple of CD's, I picked Korn because they helped found the Nu-Metal phase. A screaming singer and double-bass drums playing 64th notes for 5 minutes does not a (good) metal song make.

I think Grunge, Alternative, and Metal could have lived in glorious harmony.

-Wes
 
disgruntled-inc said:
While I do like their first couple of CD's, I picked Korn because they helped found the Nu-Metal phase. A screaming singer and double-bass drums playing 64th notes for 5 minutes does not a (good) metal song make.
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I used to like Korn a lot. I don't like them too much anymore, but having listened to a hell of a lot of their stuff, I have to ask...when did they ever sound like that? In fact I don't remember a single instance of hearing double kicks on their records. And there was a considerable amount of non-screamed vocals by comparison to some of the bands I do like.

As I've said on numerous occasions, this thread is dumb anyway. Accusing one single band of being responsible for the death of a genre that isn't actually dead..

a) is in essence retarded...the genre isn't fucking dead, for Christ's sake, and..

b) lends far too much credence to whatever band one is accusing. Thereby contradicting one's usually disdainful feelings towards that particular band.
 
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legionserial said:
I used to like Korn a lot. I don't like them too much anymore, but having listened to a hell of a lot of their stuff, I have to ask...when did they ever sound like that? In fact I don't remember a single instance of hearing double kicks on their records. And there was a considerable amount of non-screamed vocals by comparison to some of the bands I do like.
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Wasn't saying that they sounded like that. Don't even think that Monkey, Head, Brain (whatever the hell they call themselves) have the prerequisite talent to play that fast anyhow. Every Korn album (at least up until I stopped listening) was basically the same guitar part over and over and over ad nauseum. They helped usher the rap/rock genre into the mainstream (more so then Aerosmith and Anthrax did), granted shit bands like Limp Bizkit took it to terribly heights. And so much as I can tell, and I could be completely wrong here, the other annoying genres of pseudo metal evolved from there.

They do put on a hell of a show though, gotta give them that.
 
disgruntled-inc said:
Wasn't saying that they sounded like that. Don't even think that Monkey, Head, Brain (whatever the hell they call themselves) have the prerequisite talent to play that fast anyhow. Every Korn album (at least up until I stopped listening) was basically the same guitar part over and over and over ad nauseum. They helped usher the rap/rock genre into the mainstream (more so then Aerosmith and Anthrax did), granted shit bands like Limp Bizkit took it to terribly heights. And so much as I can tell, and I could be completely wrong here, the other annoying genres of pseudo metal evolved from there.

They do put on a hell of a show though, gotta give them that.
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The 2 times I've seen them live, although the tunes were performed near perfectly (lets face it, how could you possibly fuck up those guitar riffs?), I didn't really think they had an amazing amount of stage presence. The second time I saw them doesn't fully count as Jon Davis was ill. So they had a bunch of guest vocalists. And that was on the 'See You On the Other Side' tour, and I'm not overly keen on that record. You are right though, they do regurgitate the same thing over and over. 'Take a Look In the Mirror' made me think that they had all said "lets do a generic Korn record before we self combust and start making half-assed industrial music".

That said, Freak on Leash and Got the Life are good live tunes to jump around to. And good club tunes too. Everyone seem to get involved.

All in all I can deal with Korn on a per song basis, but one album is too much. Unless it's one of the first two. I listened to them recently and the wholly mysoginistic element of some the lyrics made me quite uncomfortable.
 
legionserial said:
...lets face it, how could you possibly fuck up those guitar riffs?
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No shit, eh? I saw them at Ozzfest a few years back. Ozzy was sick so they took the headlinging spot and really hammered down on it. I was back in the grass seats so stage presence really didn't mean much to me any how, so I can't attest to that. Johnathon didn't really talk, which is fine with me, they just kept going.

legionserial said:
...All in all I can deal with Korn on a per song basis, but one album is too much. Unless it's one of the first two. I listened to them recently and the wholly mysoginistic element of some the lyrics made me quite uncomfortable.
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I feel about the same. The first two CD's I can listen too most of them start to finish, or at least until he starts that my daddy hates me crying junk. He can, or at least could, write some awfully disturbing lyrics.
 
Fucking hell, this thread is lame.

There was a thread on Van Halen boards about how Grunge has killed metal. For what it's worth all hair metal bands would have died regardless, while Ozzy/VH/Motorhead etc kept being as strong as ever. For all I know those 80-ies "metal" bands should have died anyway. Good riddance :p
 
Mish said:
Fucking hell, this thread is lame.

There was a thread on Van Halen boards about how Grunge has killed metal. For what it's worth all hair metal bands would have died regardless, while Ozzy/VH/Motorhead etc kept being as strong as ever. For all I know those 80-ies "metal" bands should have died anyway. Good riddance :p
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I agree, most of them had a limited shelf life. I throw in a CD now that I used to think was amazing and I wonder what I ever saw in it. It's not that I feel it's bad or crap, it just doesn't move me like it did in '89. I think it's too bad that certain bands that were big in the 80's got lumped into the hair metal genre even though they really weren't, like Skid Row or Tesla. Ya they had hair, but compaired to say Poison or Motely Cure or Ratt? They didn't wear make up and the music had a deeper message the the standard drugs and party theme.
 
disgruntled-inc said:
I agree, most of them had a limited shelf life. I throw in a CD now that I used to think was amazing and I wonder what I ever saw in it. It's not that I feel it's bad or crap, it just doesn't move me like it did in '89. I think it's too bad that certain bands that were big in the 80's got lumped into the hair metal genre even though they really weren't, like Skid Row or Tesla. Ya they had hair, but compaired to say Poison or Motely Cure or Ratt? They didn't wear make up and the music had a deeper message the the standard drugs and party theme.
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Skid Row were cool, but they so killed themselves by firing Bach. All their other stuff sounded like Alice in Chains with a bad singer.

If you like Sebastian Bach's voice though, I really recommend checking out on second Frameshift album (released 2005 I think). IMO beats anything he's done with Skids.
 
Mish said:
Skid Row were cool, but they so killed themselves by firing Bach. All their other stuff sounded like Alice in Chains with a bad singer.

If you like Sebastian Bach's voice though, I really recommend checking out on second Frameshift album (released 2005 I think). IMO beats anything he's done with Skids.
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I'll pick it up today.
 
disgruntled-inc said:
No shit, eh? I saw them at Ozzfest a few years back. Ozzy was sick so they took the headlinging spot and really hammered down on it. I was back in the grass seats so stage presence really didn't mean much to me any how, so I can't attest to that. Johnathon didn't really talk, which is fine with me, they just kept going.
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There was total lack of any kind of audience participation when I saw them. That in itself doesn't bother me, but it would be nice if they could even acknowledge that people are there to see them.

Actually I remember reading an interview with Korn, where they were asked why they very rarely played the UK, and when they did, they'd do like two dates. They said "because we don't get paid enough". So they can fuck themselves. Shamefully perhaps, I own all their CD's apart from the most recent one, and paid a fair penny for them. They can shove their "we don't get paid enough" up their collective asses. CD's ain't cheap. In fact, back then, they were more expensive. I think Follow the Leader set me back £18 ($35?) at the time.


I feel about the same. The first two CD's I can listen too most of them start to finish, or at least until he starts that my daddy hates me crying junk. He can, or at least could, write some awfully disturbing lyrics.
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He was great lyricist before he jumped on the hip-hop 'bitches and hos' bandwagon.
 
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