Writing & recording procedures...

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I didnt understand that tempo ratio statement either..... there's time changes, but i dont think he's (sluice) put up anything thats fluctuated much meter-wise. ......but then.....whatdoya expect from a guy that sounds just like James Hetfield:D :D
 
Errrrrrrrrrrr.....perhaps I've used the wrong term here...(hey, I'm dutch, remember?) ;) Maybe I meant 'odd time signatures'? I'm not sure, I should listen to SLuiCE's music sometime when I'm sober. No, please don't get me wrong. I'm not drunk all the time: I only listen to homerecording music when I'm done working, my wife is asleep, and I'm celebrating my weekend. So that's how...:D
 
haha...ya that hetfiled thing was pretty funny Mike.

Actually Ped may be referring to "Chrysalis." The verses are faster than the quiet parts and the chorus and would be nearly impossible to coordinate without a click track. It switches from 175 bpm in the verses to 125 in the bridge and chorus.

Hetfield...wow....
 
.........oh..........


...........my bad:( :D



Ped-.....no excuses necessary for excessive drinking while homerec'ing...............

.........'hic ....where'd i put that bottle:D :)
 
hehe...and Ped, as long as you just go along with my last post, you're off the hook with guernica. ;)
 
*sigh*

Thanks SLuiCE, I was seriously doubting my hearing capacities for a moment...

And Hetfield? Get outta here! Thought Industry yes, you should really ch.....OK, I'll shut up.....:D
 
I usually have a guitar hook or a general idea first, then I ....hmmm...this is hard, I don't really know, I think I write most of my stuff either jamming on the electric or "playing" it in my head.

Once I have enough of an idea I'll pencil in some drums and bass and start recording to the pc. then the form usually get's worked over, cut paste, add, delete new track, drop track etc...I do record and write at the same time, but it usually doesn't happen that way.

A lot of time I have tunes sit on a shelf until I finally get a bridge, lyric idea, last verse, dump some section that's been bothering me, nail the turn around etc...

My setup is very ameteur, and the studio is the guest bedroom in the basement. I have two passible mics, one for the amp, one for vocals.

I'm not sure about click tracks, most of the stuff I've done has percussion so I don't have much choice but to play to a sequenced drum track.

focussed and fresh? I don't know that I ever am, but that loosely translates to "not getting sick of a song" to me, see second paragraph then paraphrase to read "write little bits of a million songs and never finish anyting".
 
I was told this needed a bump ;)
If I start sounding like Emeric it's because I copied and pasted the questions from his post and replaced his answers with mine.

Do you compose on guitar or piano first or by noodling around on your pc? ('noodling' not meant in a negative way! )
Both
- Do you prefer to write lyrics first, then music or the other way around? (or at the same time)
Never lyrics first. Lyrics often feel more like "the thing you gotta do to finish the song thing" to me.
- Do you record quick demo's first and decide later whether you proceed or do you aim for the final product directly?
Both.
- Do you ever write and record at the same time?
Yep.
- Do you record on a computer, hardware only, or both?
Computer only. Did years of 4 track cassette though.
- How's your relationship with the almighty click? (this one is for Sluice mainly, because his music often has multiple tempo ratios)
If it's live, no click. If not, yes click! I'm working on basically 2 projects right now. The one with just my friend we use the click. In the band I'm in we don't - and I'm not very happy about that!!! Next project it's click or find somewhere else to record. Sorry - I've got 15 songs to mix that were recorded track by track and the acoustic player who always laid down the first track can't keep time :mad:
- What's your studio like?
I use a spare bedroom for playing, computer in the living room. I built a collapsable room w/in a room to keep the cops away, but it's really small and dead sounding. I also record in my friends basement that's more live but pretty noisy.
- How would you describe your equipment? Amateur, pro, semi-pro?
Digi 001 on a Mac G4. Shitty pre amps. Half decent mics. Mostly good instruments.
- How do you stay focused and fresh? Do you listen to lots of other music or none?
Lots of music. No lie, I listen to music from this board far more than anything else these days.
- What are your main influences?
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum www.sleepytimegorillamuseum.com (for Pedullist - go there now!)
Idiot Flesh
The Residents
Jimi Hendrix
Neil Young
 
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Yay for Sleepytime Gorilla Museum! I love it! :D
 
You got it Pedullist? Or you already knew those guys? I just had to edit the link because I spelled museum wrong :o
 
Of course I already knew the guys....I PM you...let's not spoil this thread with this;)
 
Newbies all around, and I'm interested in the stories of the new guys (and girls). Plus, this board needs at least one mp3-less thread a week, LOL :D

And please ignore the nonsense about odd time signatures and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum.
 
I'm not a newbie, but I play one on this board..

- Do you compose on guitar or piano first or by noodling around on your pc? ('noodling' not meant in a negative way! )
Sometimes on guitar, sometimes in my head.

- Do you prefer to write lyrics first, then music or the other way around? (or at the same time)
Many times a concept first (e.g., a song about stupid things I've heard in songs). Often music first - sometimes a chord progression first, sometimes a melody line first. Lyrics always last.

- Do you record quick demo's first and decide later whether you proceed or do you aim for the final product directly?
I never do anything quickly. This is meant to be derogotory.

- Do you ever write and record at the same time?
I can't walk and chew gum at the same time. What makes you think I could write and record at the same time?

- Do you record on a computer, hardware only, or both?
Computer. If you can call what I do recording.

- How's your relationship with the almighty click? (this one is for Sluice mainly, because his music often has multiple tempo ratios)
We've learned to co-exist.

- What's your studio like?
Like my living room. It is my living room. Basically, it's crap.

- How would you describe your equipment? Amateur, pro, semi-pro?
Amateur.

- How do you stay focused and fresh?
I don't. I'm unfocused and stale.

Do you listen to lots of other music or none?
Lots.

- What are your main influences?
Pedullist
The Beatles
Matthew Sweet
More Pedullist
 
Your list makes me blush. Especially the order. Wow. :)

And I think you're more focused and fresh than most 'hit single writers' in america.
 
Pedullist said:
Your list makes me blush. Especially the order. Wow. :)

And I think you're more focused and fresh than most 'hit single writers' in america.
Click to expand...

Have I told you lately that I love you. :D

Didn't understand the "especially the order..." stuff. What did you mean?
 
TripleM said:
- What are your main influences?
Pedullist
The Beatles
Matthew Sweet
More Pedullist
Click to expand...

I'd personally place myself under the Beatles and Matthew Sweet (and a shitload of others LOL )
 
- Do you compose on guitar or piano first or by noodling around on your pc? ('noodling' not meant in a negative way! )

The stuff I do myself usually originates in riff and a beat.. The stuff I record away from my bedroom is *rarely* composed by me.

- Do you prefer to write lyrics first, then music or the other way around? (or at the same time)

I don't know.. I like having lyrics to get a general idea of the build of the song, but I can't srite lyrics, and because of that, I always end up writing longwinded instrumentals..

- Do you record quick demo's first and decide later whether you proceed or do you aim for the final product directly?

Both.. I just can't write whole songs, so I record a quick demo, then the song never gets finished, so it stays in that way..

- Do you ever write and record at the same time?

yeah.. and I type with all 20 fingers and toes simultaneously too

- Do you record on a computer, hardware only, or both?

At home: Audiophile -> P4
Away: Alesis HD24

- How's your relationship with the almighty click? (this one is for Sluice mainly, because his music often has multiple tempo ratios)

At home: All drums are Fruity Loops
Away: Depends on the client

- What's your studio like?

What's a studio? I thought it was all about the gear!!

- How would you describe your equipment? Amateur, pro, semi-pro?

I'm not a good enough 'engineer' to make a valid statement about my gear. (tho I do rhyme on occation)

- How do you stay focused and fresh?

Mixing: I take a break 'til I feel ready again (usually, one week+)
Recording: Food!! Water!! Lie down!! NO!! bandmembers around!! Silence!!!

Do you listen to lots of other music or none?

I listen to BOTH Country and Western

- What are your main influences?

Anyone who knows they haven't got the best out of their Behringer console just yet..
 
I play Britney Spears songs backwards on my Fostex 4 track and run them into the RCA inputs of my Soundblaster. Then I run them through some very special plugins that make everything sound like so pro dude. And it's soooo easy too. Anyone can do it. You can too! Goddam I'm good at that stuff.


(alright time for bed. For some fucked up reason I just read through a 4 page flame war on the nature of mastering in the mixing/mastering forum. It has truly rattled my senses and I'll never go into the forum again.)
 
and potentially for the same fucked up reason, I posted in that thread too. Just trying to tell some asshole for the 10th time to get off his fucking throne.

crap like that makes me delete homerecording.com off my favorite list. You realize you've got better things to do and better places to learn.

maybe see ya all in the future. I'll still lurk with my guesses for good tunes here in the clinic...but screw posting... it has become a waste of time.
 
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