Will a Joe meek pre cut down noise from a marshall mic?

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Henrick,

I am calm, and I am a hot head, I'm from New York! I did not like what he said, and felt it was uncalled for. In my book, the name fit... :D
 
I see the "Let's Hate Alan Hyatt Club" is still going strong.
Wallycleaver said:

If that's not spam, I'm not sure what is. Before "designing" or whatever mics, did you used to be a car salesman? Do a search of all Tom Cram's posts will ya? He answered questions about dbx products but never dissed others PERIOD! That's just bad form. Aren't marshall and your mic made in the same factory? That would be rather funny if they are!
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I know a lot of you guys have been here for a long time, and have been helpful to a lot of people. I've been personally helped a lot from the people here.

But...You are stating untruths when you call this particular post spamming, and trying to be unflattering to Alan (calling him a car salesman) is not warranted. If you read the whole thread you will see that Alan's post was in reply to a direct question from the individual who started the thread.
musix said:
the pre is a joe meek vc3q pro channel. where can I find studio projects mics? I've heard of the c1. couldn't find it at sam ash. thanx for the replies
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You can compare Alan to Tom Cram if you want. Alan isn't Tom Cram though. I think we can all agree on that. :)

Zeke
 
Zeke,

For the record, the annual fee for joining the "I Hate Alan Hyatt Club" is $250.00, but the good news is you get this real cool membership card, and a free C1...so who want's to be president? :D

There are always two sides to this guys. If you want to rag on me to feel better that's fine by me, but my post was for Musix, not Mr. Cleaver. I was not promoting, spamming, or endorsing. I was answering Musix's question truthfully like I always do to him...no one else. That is why I felt the remark to me was uncalled for.
 
Alan,

You will be the target for future remarks, too, from assholes, I mean, well, yeah, I mean assholes. Gidge? You've never called someone an asshole before (well, maybe not on the forum -- good for you)? I'm sorry, but those remarks towards Alan were about as low and sarcastic as you can get without graduating junior high, and were owed an "asshole" label -- he didn't throw the first punch, and being from New York, you don't take a punch without throwing one back.

Alan's here to help -- he's also here to promote his products, and it's obvious he is promoting products that are helping a lot of us with what we love to do. Bravo!

Yes, some might not like his products or his style, but there are better and more mature ways to communicate that than what's been demonstrated here (although I can't quite say calling someone an asshole on a public forum is mature...but we've all called someone an asshole before, so he or she who hasn't may cast the first stone).

Bodhisan
 
"Alan's here to help -- he's also here to promote his products, and it's obvious he is promoting products that are helping a lot of us with what we love to do. Bravo! "

He's not here to help us....hes here to sell mics...the fact that it does help us is just a side effect....if it wasnt putting money in his pocket, he wouldnt be here......

Bod, find me a few posts from Mr Hyatt that doesnt make reference to one of the products that he sells and post links...then i will take back what im about to say - you asshole!.....

see, its not about whether I or anyone has called someone an asshole...this is a community here, a family so-to-speak...tempers flare and opinions are crossed.....but its no secret that Alan is here spamming but it is pretty harmless and he has passed on some info....but calling someone an asshole who points out the obvious is again called for....

like i said before, i have countless times recommended the C1...its a fine mic....but im not gonna kiss his ass the way some do here, unless he sends me a mic....if that happens my lips and his anus wont part for one second.......

hes from New York...well im from Louisiana...and here, family is family....and i think it was inappropriate for that dis' on brutha Wally........

i know Wallys post had a bit of a sarcastic undertone, but every word he said was pretty accurate....i think it is a conflict of interest for Alan to even mention a competitors product in his post.....is he gonna up and tell you another mic sounds better than his?...hell no.....in this case, hes right...the 2001 does suck....but the Marshall MXLv67 sounds just as good as the C1 for alot cheaper.......
 
I don't find any 'spam' at all in Alans posts. It's a mic, big deal.. it's not like the solution to world peace or anything.

I don't own any PMI mic's (yet), but I've found his posts well in line with the 'non-written' laws of hr.com. There are many faceless companies out there, PMI doesn't appear to be one. Why shouldn't he promote his product? If his products are shit, then his company will probably fail. One could say, well what if joeblow buys a mic based on all the hype and it's a piece of shit?Hype is relative, especially in pro-sumer gear. Remember the target market.

As for the asshole comment. Hey, it's the internet, if you can't take it, leave it. Everyone has a personality. You can't remember any other threads where 'x' called 'x' an asshole? Some can say, but some can't? Gimme a break.

I think you guys need to lighten up on the 'spam' shit.
 
Hi, Alan

It was a pleasure meeting you and Justin at AES. I can hardly wait for the B1.

Thanks for being one of the pioneers of the affordable, great-sounding equipment trend that will help bring prices down to a more reasonable level. This will help home/project studios and self-recording artists/bands continue to create and have fun without the pressure of big globs of money pouring into....well, I won't get into that.

This is a great year to be an audio geek, people! Let's put those microphones to use-dammit!
 
Gidge said:
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Bod, find me a few posts from Mr Hyatt that doesnt make reference to one of the products that he sells and post links...then i will take back what im about to say - you asshole!.....

but im not gonna kiss his ass the way some do here, unless he sends me a mic....if that happens my lips and his anus wont part for one second.......

in this case, hes right...the 2001 does suck....but the Marshall MXLv67 sounds just as good as the C1 for alot cheaper.......
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Gidge,

Look, I make many posts that say nothing of my mics, and kissing my ass for a free C1 is a sell out, but if you want, you can kiss one cheek, and Wally boy can kiss the other....:D

If you like the V67 better or just as much...that's fine by me, but it does not have a pad and hi-pass filter :D Spam, promotion, Spam.... The recent mp3 post by Imagine on the C1 says it all.

I have no axe to grind with you Gidge, you have been a supporter. I heard what you said, but I disagree. There is no reason to blow this into a flame war anymore, so lets leave it at that. If you want the last word...fine, I won't reply to this anymore.

This is between me and Wally boy, and as for family, you're family is at home. This is the internet...Emeric is right about that.


And stop calling me Mr. Hyatt...Its Alan!! :D
 
Gidge said:
[BBod, find me a few posts from Mr Hyatt that doesnt make reference to one of the products that he sells and post links...then i will take back what im about to say - you asshole!.....[/B]
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Alan is here because of his mics. He hasn't made any bones about that. Not doubt the majority of his posts have been about his products. But just for fun, I did some searching. Here's a few.

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=30567

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=33690

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=31643

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=31452

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=31452

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=32337

Zeke
 
im gonna make my last statement and i wont post to this thread again....i could care less if someone spams here or not...I am not a moderator or owner, so thats not my business...but i am infatuated with the word "spam"...spam spam spam...can anyone say it and not laugh...and i love posting my Monty Python spam clip.......

anyway, Mr Hyatt, if you werent selling a mic, would you still frequent this board?....no matter what your answer is, ill still respect you and recommend your mic.....please answer this and have the last word as that is not what im after....

by the way, call me "MR. SELLOUT" and point to the cheek you want first...i email you my address to send the mic....

peace, brutha Al.....
 
Gidge said:
by the way, call me "MR. SELLOUT" and point to the cheek you want first...i email you my address to send the mic....

peace, brutha Al.....
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I would hold out for the T3 given the price you're paying.
 
maybe to kiss both cheeks and lick the brown eye he could throw in a VC1Q.....

dammit i wasnt supposed to respond again...i hate it when that happens.....
 
Damn, because of these quotes, I've had to read Gidge call me an asshole several times! Ouch.

Gidge, I've always respected loyalty, even if it supports someone in the wrong. That's half my wife's life...

I know you're not posting any more on this, but darn it, I did say (and you quoted) that Alan is here to sell mics; and, I must say that along those lines, Alan is here to help -- I've read posts where someone's mic fell and broke, or one was received DOA -- and he helped those people (true: he better have frickin' helped, or he'd be eatin' spam-spam-spam-spam for the next few years). If that ain't help, then I'm truly an asshole. It might not be the help you're lookin' for...or need...or want, but for others -- it is.

Does this mean I'm right? Because I love it when I'm right.
 
They could have called the PMI audio group for tech support. I don't remember this being a tech support board for any particular company... Although there was a time about 4 months ago when this was pretty much the Studio Projects C1 forum... It got so ridiculous that people would post other topics under that heading, just to get people to look at them.

Anyway, I'm happy that we can finally talk about something else. And that everyone has realized that it's just a mic.

Right?

And it also doubles as a can opener, atomic clock, Wenckel rotary engine, GPS device, high resolution digital camera, and all-in-one new-and-improved mousetrap.

I bet Alan kicks himself every day that that's the mic we all glommed onto. He coulda made a mint if everyone who bought a C1 bought a T3 instead.
 
since everyone has said their opinion, here's mine:

Is he just here to sell mics? Possibly. I'd rather buy a mic from a company where the owner actually cares enough to help people out. Where's the guy that runs marshall and every other company? Obviously thats not realistic but he does have time for us and thats something important.

I bought a c1 and I did so because of the user reviews on this board, not because he told me I should.

With regards to the mxl2001, I think its generally excepted to most of us that it's not a good mic. Who could buy it after the prorec review. Yes reviews are subjective, but IMHO this is an extreme. I would have gone much further than alan did. Nobody's word on here is taken as the ultimate truth...it's a sum of opinions. Thats his.
 
Mr. Hyatt:

I think it's funny that you will not make any claims to how great the C1 is. Other so called "engineers" have said it sounds like a u87, though you wont say it. Let's see, the U87 is a 2000 mic, so your not in competition with it. On he flipside, you have no qualms about saying your mic is better than another cheap shanghai mic. Seems a bit odd.

Your original answer in this thread is really lame and low. You didnt even attempt to answer his question, all you had was a mic to sell.

You should take a lesson from some PRO dealers on the web. There are a handfull of dealers/manufacturers (Fletcher, Dan Kennedy, John Hardy, Scott Dorsey, etc...) who contribute to message boards, r.a.p. and the like. Do you see them constantly pushing their shit on people? I dont. They help people, contribute to the community, building a rapport with people. Some of them dont even put their company name in their signature line. I know I'm nobody in the game your playing, but know that I dont respect you. The way I see it, your a fly by night slick talkin snake oil salesman, in it for the quick buck.

If you wanna be respected in this community (maybe you dont, I dont know)..why dont you actually contribute something, stop pushing your shit on people and answer questions straight.

If all your here for is to sell mics and your silly preamp, just say it, at least you'll be telling the truth.
 
ammeth....

I think Alan doesn't like to make claims about the C1 so he can avoid being accused of being a "spammer" as much as he can. Alan didn't say the C1 sounds like a U87, this guy did.
http://prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/2CAB4F71AF9E2A1C86256A650081ECF9
Instead, Alan has the balls to go to trade shows and set up a U87 next to his mics and let people decide for themselves.
Proof that the C1 can stand up to ANY mic! Hats off to Alan for that.
He has answered many questions about the quality of other Chinese mics because people have asked him directly. I call it "Customer Service", but it's even more than that, because most of the people here are only potential customers.
Fletcher and Alan are apples and oranges. Fletcher doesn't have a line of his own to pimp. In comparison, Fletcher just wants you to know that the ENTIRE PROJECT STUDIO REVOLUTION is a load of shit! At the AES show, he had on display a ADAT and a Mackie mixer skewered on a stick. It was formerly called "Shit on a stick", but is now called " One down, One to go", in reference to the near death of Alesis. Alesis was not pleased. What a fine example he sets. Now if Fletcher recommends a particular piece of gear that he happens to also sell, is he pimping or helping? I say he is doing both. If what they says is factual, than he and Alan are providing a service to these boards.
That is what matters, regarding what ANYONE posts on these boards. The information people on these boards must be CORRECT! If Alan, Fletcher, or anyone else can provide ACCURATE info and sell equipment at the same time, more power to them. If their info is bad, then they should be ripped a new one publicly. So far , Alan and Fletcher's advice has improved the quality of my recordings greatly.
Just because you say Alan doesn't have respect in this community, doesn't mean it's so. I'm not so sure about you anymore, though.
I just think some people are jealous about the side benefit Alan and Fletcher recieve when they actually help people and get to make money in the process. I fine them inspiring. I don't think it's the money for either of them. It's a public service. Once you get to a certain age, it's not about money anymore. It's about passing on what you know to the benefit of all people.
As far as little old me is concerned, these guys can pimp all they want. They just better be right about what they say, or they are fucking themselves, not me. Just like in real life!
In the interest on full disclosure, I have a C1 and one of those "Silly pre-amps", a Joe Meek VC1Q. They fuckin' ROCK, mate!
Hey Alan,
Keep on keepin on..........
C
 
This doesn’t have anything to do with the above mentioned discussion. I don’t even know the C1 because I live in Europe and can’t buy it here but I’m sure it’s a great mic. The only thing that comes in my mind are the numerous discussions that I watched on various music forums for years just praising a certain product right into heaven. Often those opinions got to a level of mass hysteria for just average quality products.

I’ve got some mic’s including a Neumann TLM103 and also a AKG C2000. The first costs considerably more then the second, but to say that you can clearly hear the difference..? I often prefer the C2000 because it has a -10db pad which is very handy if you are recording loud sources. I can’t record drums or a guitar cabinet with the Neumann if you know what I mean.

I know this is a weird example, but trust your ears and watch out for hype, especially if it goes about something so subjective as sound!

If someone recommends a specific soundcard because it has a certain number of SPDIF and ADAT inputs etc. I’m easily convinced. But I’m always very suspicious about other peoples opinions about microphones pre-amps etc.

On every forum that I visited there has always been this one product that everybody always talked about. One can easily come to the conclusion that everything else is pure crap.

Jan
 
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