Track Rat
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I got here late. So is the troll gone for an entire year? I sure hope so.
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Steenamaroo
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This is hilarious.
You make claims with such authority, yet you fail to provide any evidence.
I can only assume you're basing all these statements on your own life.
Just how badly did you fail??????
You make claims with such authority, yet you fail to provide any evidence.
I can only assume you're basing all these statements on your own life.
Just how badly did you fail??????
Chili
Site Moderator
This is your thread, please try to keep up.
Let me ask again...
Why would it bother you so much you're compelled to sign up at a home recording forum to bitch about home recordings??
SteveAlton
Member
It all starts and ends with the song...........
Being able to Sing it with Precision, Play it with Precision & Arrange & Produce it with Precision are all part of the process.
it is very rare indeed for one person to be able to do ALL 5 things @ a professional level.
I can do all 5 of the above items.....However, the first 2 are the only chores I handle all the way through. Writing & Singing I will always do myself....
However, I will always bring in my Producer to Arrange & Produce. He will also hire the Session Players. Why? because my area of expertise is NOT in these areas.
I only do Home recording to get a "scratch demo" BEFORE I use my Producer....
But Home recording allows me to flesh out some ideas before we cut the final version...
It all starts and ends with the song
Being able to Sing it with Precision, Play it with Precision & Arrange & Produce it with Precision are all part of the process.
it is very rare indeed for one person to be able to do ALL 5 things @ a professional level.
I can do all 5 of the above items.....However, the first 2 are the only chores I handle all the way through. Writing & Singing I will always do myself....
However, I will always bring in my Producer to Arrange & Produce. He will also hire the Session Players. Why? because my area of expertise is NOT in these areas.
I only do Home recording to get a "scratch demo" BEFORE I use my Producer....
But Home recording allows me to flesh out some ideas before we cut the final version...
It all starts and ends with the song
Track Rat
Just Your Average Sized Member
^^^This.^^^
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Greg_L
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Jealousy is an ugly thing. It makes people act stupidly. This guy either....
A) Can't afford the gear he really wants so he lashes out at those who can
B) Can't use the gear he has so he lashes out at those that can
C) Can't play worth a fuck so he lashes out at those that can
D) Can't write a song so he lashes out that those that can
E) Can't enjoy music without linking it to commercial success so he lashes out at those that can
This dude's problem could be any one of those things. I'm betting it's all of them.
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Lukesteele
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Yes, it's a hobby, it's fun. but it's also extremely expensive, time consuming and fruitless.
But I think people dive into it because they think SOMETHING will come out of it. You wont spend thousands of dollars on equiptment when
a simple four track recorder with a sm57 mic and an acoustic guitar is all you need to make a recording of your song.
And it's not a knock on producing. Producing music is a skill just as important as writing or playing or singing, and maybe some think they will one day be a top notch producer, nothing wrong with that. But I wonder how home recording has become the monster it has.
Plenty of people are making money on it, but usually not the ones doing it
Just listen to this song, Hang onto Love, by Pentultima, a home recording.Comments welcome
Hang onto Love - YouTube
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hates recording
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+1 one sensible response. Something as simple as getting the RIGHT guitar sound, not just a good sound, but the right one,
could take somebody very experienced.
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hates recording
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And if your wagering skills are as good as,,, ahh never mind.
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Greg_L
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Has it been a year already?
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hates recording
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Just listen to this song, Hang onto Love, by Pentultima, a home recording.Comments welcome
First of all, why would you put it on youtube? You want people to hear it, agreed?
Goes back to my point.
Now, being mean as far as a critique doesnt help but I will tell you what i hear. It's not a bad melody in the verses, the chorus makes
little sense and doesnt add but distracts from the songs impact.
And in this case why not hire a singer? This singer is all over the place with pitch, and the grand canyon reverb is not helping.
The piano playing sounds a bit choppy.
Again, if this is a song demo, performance and quality is not huge, but you are posting it on youtube, which means you are showcasing the song as is.
Latest single? Lol dont know about that.
Steenamaroo
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Any critique on Greg's work? 
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Greg_L
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Any critique on Greg's work?
After exposing him in this thread, there's no way he's gonna have anything good to say. That's how music critiques work - friends love it, enemies hate it. It's subjective and meaningless. It sucks. I shouldn't write or record or play anything ever!
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http://silentsky.net/killing_music.pdf
http://www.nobleworld.biz/images/Homer.pdf
"hey where did "hates recording" go, he knew what he was talking about...."
http://www.nobleworld.biz/images/Homer.pdf
"hey where did "hates recording" go, he knew what he was talking about...."
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Greg_L
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Most music sucked even way before home studios, so your point is stupid.
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Greg_L
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Anyway, you can't blame home recording if you think music has gotten worse. That's idiotic. Blame the internet. Blame social media. People have always made shitty music. People have always recorded shitty music. 4-track cassette recorders have always been around, cheap, and easy to use. The difference was back then there was no way to distribute it. Now they can flood the landscape with it via the internet.
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hates recording
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Home studios dont produce the albums released mainstream. Bad music is bad music, but the home recording industry us misleading
aspiring songwriters and musicians into think that is the answer.
seems like a great solution "I dont have the money to pay 5000 dollars on every song i wrote, so the only solution is buy my own studio
and do it all myself"
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Greg_L
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That's absurd, and frankly, completely stupid. Naive and delusional people are what they are. Nothing leads them to be that way.
Besides, wasn't the first Foo Fighters album done completely at home by Dave Grohl by himself? That's about as mainstream, and home recorded, as you can get if it's true.
And this upsets you, why? You don't have to listen to everything recorded by everyone ever. You don't have to listen to anything.
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hates recording
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Theres alot of reasons music is not as good today, use of click tracks, songs that are watered down to hooks, and ironically in rock music,
the failure of most songs to shake you booty. Rock music was all about dancing, today rock music is about dying.
All the vibrance is gone. Theres still some great rock bands out there, but they are not getting the attenion they should.
And if real musicians cant create a vibrant sound, some kid in his room surely cant do it.
Steenamaroo
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LOL. I know. I was just pulling at a thread.
I think professional results can be achieved in a home recording environment and there are plenty of potentially professional songwriters.
Before HR existed, I'm sure there were thousands of studios churning out thousands of records that never went anywhere.
The same thing happens now, except it happens at home.
Songwriting as a global art hasn't declined in quality because people record at home. You just hear more of the bad stuff because it's right at your fingertips.
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