Why does distortion suck om my pod?

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Well i bought a Pod 2 the other day and ive got a pair of Beyer DT770 Pros. Ive been playng around with the pod and im getting some realy nice clean sounds but any distortion i use sound muddy and fuzzy. Even when i use my distortion pedal (Boss DS-1 and dual overdrive and line 6 DM4) the sound still sucks. Its no where near close to the quality i get from my fender twin reverb. Is this a problem that can be fixed or am i stuck with crap sounding distortion?. I havent used the outputs from the pod, because i have nothing to record to yet and i havent got around to playing the pod thruogh my amp. Will this make any difference?
 
Well... (my opinion).... at best, the POD is a flexible recording tool in certain situations, but there's no way I'd ever use it as a front-end "preamp" or as the equivalent of a flexible distortion pedal.... to my ears, it just doesn't sound as good as an amp, much less a tube amp....

It's main focus is as a recording tool - while nothing is stopping one from using it outside the control room, I don't think it fits that role particularly well....

Incidently, in my experience, I haven't found it to be particularly good at clean sounds.... for clean parts, I prefer a mic'd amp........

YMMV.........

Bruce
 
I think the pod is like a swiss army knife, if you need a range of 'tools' in a hurry it can work, but it can't replace a real toolbox and I wouldn't try to strip down an engine with it as my only tool, maybe to tighten up the wing mirrors though. :D
 
I think the Pod/J-Station into a nice tube amp sounds Sweeeeet!.....
 
Well ive have to try running my pod into my twin reverb tomorrow to see if it sound better. Do you guys recommend running my distortion pedal before or after the pod?
 
Well i ran my pod through my amp today and i found some nice sounding distortion. My pedals still seemed to suck when running thruogh the pod but its am improvement.
 
Why are you trying to run pedals thru the POD anyways? The biggest point of the POD is the various distortions you can get out of the thing simply on its own!


Bruce
 
I thought the biggest point of the pod was that it could moddel varios amps. The DM4 is Line 6's product for modelling distortions. And the reason i am running distortion through my pod is
a) Before i tried it through my amp the pod's distortion was way too muddy and/or fuzzy
b) i like the sound of my distrotion pedals
c) im also using my pod so alter tone, no just for its distrotion
d)i need to be able to switch distortion on and off during the song and without the floor board this can be rather difficult to do on the pod
e)i like a wide range of distrotions to play with
f)ive got these peadal why not use them
 
ColdAsh said:
I thought the biggest point of the pod was that it could moddel varios amps.
Well yes, but amp-modelling, of course, give you a variety of distortions as part of the function of the amp model!

I'm not saying you shouldn't use your pedals, it's just that if you do, there is little reason for the POD to be in the signal chain........

While the POD is considered an "amp-modeller", the truth is, the amp model presets sound nothing like their actual amp "models"...

ie - the British Blues doesn't really sound like the Vox its intended to emulate.... so using it to get an amp model before running it to your actual amp will make the model even further removed...............

If I were you, I'd worry less about using it as an amp modeller and concentrate more on tweaking it directly to get the sounds you want.........

YMMV.....

Bruce
 
i think it's your pickup. it baffle's me how little discussion there is on pickups and tone quality. in my book it's everything.

i have several guitars that i would never use for distorted tones, very muddy, especially for chording, but are generally good to great for Clean.

i have several others that are just the opposite. they're great for distorted but not so good for clean, too thin.

on one solid body Kramer the Bridge pickup is great for distortion (chords and lead), but the neck is muddy for chords but thick and warm for leads above the 10th fret. also, i have it wired to split each pickup. the Neck (Normally Distorts Muddy), but when split is absolutely great when compressed with moderate distortion. this is the same pickup that's muddy when Humbucked but great as a single coil. it's all in the pickup.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Why are you trying to run pedals thru the POD anyways? The biggest point of the POD is the various distortions you can get out of the thing simply on its own! Bruce
True, but IMO it can do very well with pedals in front, too.
 
Sonixx said:
i think it's your pickup. it baffle's me how little discussion there is on pickups and tone quality. in my book it's everything.

I am planning on replacing the bridge pickup in the not too distant future. I was thinking of getting a DiMarzio PAF Classic. What do you guys think of them?

Originally posted by Blue Bear Sounds
While the POD is considered an "amp-modeller", the truth is, the amp model presets sound nothing like their actual amp "models"...
I do agree with you on that Bruce. I know that no modeler on anything would actualy sound like the real thing and I am using it to get different sounds. I'd just like my distortion pedal to work with these sounds.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
While the POD is considered an "amp-modeller", the truth is, the amp model presets sound nothing like their actual amp "models"...
As though all amps of the same type/model sound the same... NOT!!!...or even necessarily similar.

yea, they may have similar tone characteristics, but the tones are as varied between the same amp models as the POD is different from them. anyways, Line6 doesn't imply that the POD's tone is like all amps of a particular model. there's just to many factors (Speakers, tubes, capacitors, power supply sag, power supply impedance and so) to make this inference.
 
Your problem (IMO) is that you are doubling up on the distortion. If you like the distortion sounds you are getting from the pedals, then use them! Use the pod for other stuff, but NOT distortion.

I know this guy who has a Zoom 505. (Nevermind that the Zoom sux.) He would use one of those factory presets that was all dirty and crunchy, and run it into a cranked 5150. :eek:

IMO, it sounded awful. All racket, no balls whatsoever.

My point is, if you're looking for distortion, choose your best single source for the sound you want, then keep the other sources running clean, or doing something else.

Queue
 
Sonixx said:
As though all amps of the same type/model sound the same... NOT!!!...or even necessarily similar.
Well duh! That's what I'm getting at!!! ;)
 
lol, yeah distortiion on distortion sounds but ,,,,i can agree with everyone up there but tend to wonder more on sonnix's thought about the pick-up, coldash i have tried other dimarzios pick-ups out, they are good pickups, but i suggest you try out the seymour duncan "jeff beck" pickup,,,they cut through in the mix really nicely with a nice fat midrange tone, distortions are very unique, listen to randy rhoads guitar,it's really really midranged, would suck all alone, but with the band it cuts through nicely, then listen to metallica, their disortion is really heavy but when it comes to a solo, it's too tiny to use that distortion, you lose the whole sound, the cutting through wicked sound....listen to zack wylde ala miracle man...his tone is huge fat and sounds good all the way around, but any of his solos never cut through as nicly as say randy's did,,,but it still rocks, he is using emg pickups active 85 model,,,,they r good, but i got rid of them after a year, they way on you, the seymour is very very sweet cutting and holds the bottom and top end together nicely, even go back and listen to zake wylde's guitar work on perry mason, i'm sure he used the same set-up, but he was buried in the mix when it came to his solo spot, and he sounded tiny, i'm sure he was using the same set-up as on miracle man....so play with the tones, check out different guitar dudes sounds, pick a sound that u would like to have as part of your own personal sound, use your ears, have fun.....peace
 
If you're running distortion pedals into the POD, you should use clean sounds on the POD... just like you would on a real amp. I do this all the time, and the amp models I almost always end up using for this are: the Marshall JTM-45 model, gain a little less than halfway up, the Matchelss Chieftain model (gain between 10 and 11 o'clock, IMO this is the best lead sounding amp on the POD), and the POD clean sound. Most of the low to medium gain amp models will work with distortion pedals just fine. I have used a tube driver, tube screamer, rat, big muff, ds-, and various other distortion pedals (mostly fuzzes) through the POD and they work fine.
 
The pod is not the endall be all it is cracked up to be. I loathe the way it sounds by itself on certain patches. However, once the pod is set into a mix, this is where shines. - I enjoy recording my guitar dry (through a DI) and monitoring with the POD. Then, when everything is laid down I can go back and run the guitar track through the POD (via aux send) and choose from a variety of distortions. This is great because I don't have to print the distortion to tape.
 
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