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Lexic
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Radio Shack.
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notCardio
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If it's hip-hop...
why not just use a Green Bullet?
Sorry, my musical snobbery is showing again. And before anybody jumps down my throat, it was JUST A JOKE, OK? I realize the same thing was said about the music I liked when I was his age. TURN THAT DAMN NOISE DOWN! Kids these days, I tell ya!
Seriously, you're not going to find a condenser that won't pick up the noise. If you do, you let me and everyone else here know immediately and I'll nominate you for hero status. It's what we all wish we could find.
That being said, with some judicious placement of the mic and the pc, and some jerry-rigged isolation baffling, you could probably get 'close enough', depending on your level of pickiness.
Good luck.
why not just use a Green Bullet?
Sorry, my musical snobbery is showing again. And before anybody jumps down my throat, it was JUST A JOKE, OK? I realize the same thing was said about the music I liked when I was his age. TURN THAT DAMN NOISE DOWN! Kids these days, I tell ya!
Seriously, you're not going to find a condenser that won't pick up the noise. If you do, you let me and everyone else here know immediately and I'll nominate you for hero status. It's what we all wish we could find.
That being said, with some judicious placement of the mic and the pc, and some jerry-rigged isolation baffling, you could probably get 'close enough', depending on your level of pickiness.
Good luck.
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ozraves
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Richard Monroe
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Yo cardioidpotent! So nominate me already.- Shure SM82, No shit. I found this puppy at a flea market, in the bottom of a box with some dead old Chinese strat knockoffs, with leaves and cobwebs. I bushed it off, and took a good look. Ah ha- Shure SM82 unidirectional microphone- serial number (4 digits) It's about a foot long, with a thin cylindrical body, a heavy grill (with the required dent), XLR connector.
I immediately came to the following conclusions:
1. It's a Shure, so if it works, it has to be worth something.
2. They don't put serial numbers on a SM57, so it's not cheap.
3. It was intended for some field application- hence the heavy duty grill.
What the hell, I said, "how much?". "What'll you give me for it?"
"$20.00?"- sold. I got it home, and plugged it into my Avalon AD2022, and-nothing. Oh well, probably a dead mic, and a $20 gamble lost. But-an SM81 is a condenser. Let's try some phantom power....WRONG! Even with the gain set at minimum, it fried the left side of the Avalon, and blew up a set of Sennheiser HD280's, which I was wearing at the time. For some reason, the Rolls headphone amp survived. I dropped the cans to the floor screaming, but I was soon aware that I couldn't hear that, or much of anything else.
After I ran in circles turning everything in sight off, the little light bulb came on over my head, and the 3 hours or so it took for most of my hearing to come back gave me plenty of time to look this baby up on line under discontinued items. God love Shure, they actually have spec sheets and owners manuals for all their discontinued items on line, right back to 1926.
The SM82 is a *line level* broadcast mic with a built in limiter and preamp, designed to operate on a mercury battery that can no longer be legally made (and there is no lithium equivalent), *or* phantom power. It is capable of transmitting its signal over 1.5 kilometers of cable with no preamp! Designed for television and sports broadcast applications, it has apparently got a little bit of a private cult following. It was a favorite of war correspondents, because you can jack it into a telephone plug with the correct adaptor.
Well, I've got a couple of pres with line level inputs, but guess what? They don't produce phantom power. So I bought a little phantom power supply, and ran it into my Joemeek twinQ (for some reason, the Avalon was in the shop). Believe it or not, Guitar Center replaced the cans. I didn't talk too much about how they got broken- LOL.
Any way, the mic sounded *GREAT*. The only problem was- the phantom power supply was a little noisy for critical recording. So one day I was feeling brave, and I said to myself, "Gee, suppose I set the input impedence on the Avalon at 50 ohms, which is basically line level?". I can tell you I was sweating when I turned on the phantom power. And it worked!
The last one rolled off the assembly line in 1987, and cost about $680 list at the time. I have no idea what the street price was, but it wasn't a cheap mic. It's exactly what an SM-7 would be if it were a condenser. It has the high end detail of a really good condenser with almost no reach. It pretty much rejects everything that isn't right in front of it. The pickup field and proximity effect are very well defined, so it's a little picky about movement. If you can sing without moving, it rocks! It is also a *great* acoustic guitar mic. It picks up almost no ambient noise, just like a dynamic. This is a little known fantastic mic, if you can get it to a line level input *with phantom power*. There's your mic, Mr. potent.-Richie
I immediately came to the following conclusions:
1. It's a Shure, so if it works, it has to be worth something.
2. They don't put serial numbers on a SM57, so it's not cheap.
3. It was intended for some field application- hence the heavy duty grill.
What the hell, I said, "how much?". "What'll you give me for it?"
"$20.00?"- sold. I got it home, and plugged it into my Avalon AD2022, and-nothing. Oh well, probably a dead mic, and a $20 gamble lost. But-an SM81 is a condenser. Let's try some phantom power....WRONG! Even with the gain set at minimum, it fried the left side of the Avalon, and blew up a set of Sennheiser HD280's, which I was wearing at the time. For some reason, the Rolls headphone amp survived. I dropped the cans to the floor screaming, but I was soon aware that I couldn't hear that, or much of anything else.
After I ran in circles turning everything in sight off, the little light bulb came on over my head, and the 3 hours or so it took for most of my hearing to come back gave me plenty of time to look this baby up on line under discontinued items. God love Shure, they actually have spec sheets and owners manuals for all their discontinued items on line, right back to 1926.
The SM82 is a *line level* broadcast mic with a built in limiter and preamp, designed to operate on a mercury battery that can no longer be legally made (and there is no lithium equivalent), *or* phantom power. It is capable of transmitting its signal over 1.5 kilometers of cable with no preamp! Designed for television and sports broadcast applications, it has apparently got a little bit of a private cult following. It was a favorite of war correspondents, because you can jack it into a telephone plug with the correct adaptor.
Well, I've got a couple of pres with line level inputs, but guess what? They don't produce phantom power. So I bought a little phantom power supply, and ran it into my Joemeek twinQ (for some reason, the Avalon was in the shop). Believe it or not, Guitar Center replaced the cans. I didn't talk too much about how they got broken- LOL.
Any way, the mic sounded *GREAT*. The only problem was- the phantom power supply was a little noisy for critical recording. So one day I was feeling brave, and I said to myself, "Gee, suppose I set the input impedence on the Avalon at 50 ohms, which is basically line level?". I can tell you I was sweating when I turned on the phantom power. And it worked!
The last one rolled off the assembly line in 1987, and cost about $680 list at the time. I have no idea what the street price was, but it wasn't a cheap mic. It's exactly what an SM-7 would be if it were a condenser. It has the high end detail of a really good condenser with almost no reach. It pretty much rejects everything that isn't right in front of it. The pickup field and proximity effect are very well defined, so it's a little picky about movement. If you can sing without moving, it rocks! It is also a *great* acoustic guitar mic. It picks up almost no ambient noise, just like a dynamic. This is a little known fantastic mic, if you can get it to a line level input *with phantom power*. There's your mic, Mr. potent.-Richie
noisedude
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Richie - PMd you ... let me know what you think. Great post, BTW!
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notCardio
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Almost a hero...
Of course the mic you found had to be an expensive, discontinued one made in limited numbers when it was new! Where do you guys find these things? All I ever find at flea markets are old ugly nik-naks that nobody with any taste would have wanted in the first place (certainly nothing collectible), used clothes, and a bunch of junk people think is valuable simply because it says 'Coca-Cola' on it, or is assosiated in some way with a NASCAR driver. Maybe I need to move. Thanks anyway, I'll keep my eye out for one. You expect an ENG mic to be extremely directional, but who would've thought it would be a great acoustic mic? Maybe I should look at some of the current production models, but then again, if I could afford them, I could afford a 441, and wouldn't need one.
Of course the mic you found had to be an expensive, discontinued one made in limited numbers when it was new! Where do you guys find these things? All I ever find at flea markets are old ugly nik-naks that nobody with any taste would have wanted in the first place (certainly nothing collectible), used clothes, and a bunch of junk people think is valuable simply because it says 'Coca-Cola' on it, or is assosiated in some way with a NASCAR driver. Maybe I need to move. Thanks anyway, I'll keep my eye out for one. You expect an ENG mic to be extremely directional, but who would've thought it would be a great acoustic mic? Maybe I should look at some of the current production models, but then again, if I could afford them, I could afford a 441, and wouldn't need one.
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Richard Monroe
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Yo Potent- check ebay. There's a mint SM82 up right now.-Richie
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