Wharfedale Diamond Pro Monitors

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Just so people know, I just recieved my Wharfedale 8.2a's from Deepwater's company today. After emailing Deepwater, someone named Amber emailed me back. She was very nice and helpful, I sent my money via Paypal Monday night and I received them today (Friday)! I'll review them after I get a chance to listen to them tonight.
 
My interest is piqued......what are these seeming gems?
 
TheDewd said:
Well, I don't see how an amp could be an hassle ? :confused:
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Why doesn't that surprise me?

Um, something to do with matching up an amp to the monitor.

Not everyone has the expertise/interest in doing so themselves and would rather trust the monitor designers to provide it for them.
 
I understand "ultimate" setups and the physics and science is great.

but I've amps and speakers for years and many different types and never
really matched anything...I mean basics, 4ohm and 8ohm, and red/black speaker wires.....wattage noted etc.

but what exactly is "matched"? I have a old Tascam PA150 studio amp 300watt total, a fhkng tank heavy piece, 4ohm or 8ohm output.....I have speakers marked 4ohm or 8ohm and they all seemed to sound fine? BW, JBL, INFINITY, PARADIGM, RADIO SHACK, RAM, ...
am i matching them and not knowing it?
 
Matching amps does not have to be as scientific as many people seem to think. First, make sure you have enough power. Second, make sure your amp cna handle the impedence you want to feed it. Matching amps is often like matching a preamp to a mic. There are many combinations that will work, and even work well. There are definately certain combinations that work better than others. Personally, most powered monitors have pretty shitty amps. When you pay an extra $1000 for the active set, it seems like you are really only getting about $300 of amp out of it. The one advantage (which can often be a disadvantage just as easily) is that powered monitors are usually biamped. A good passive crossover though will sound MUCH better than a shitty active one.
 
thanks X,
I think the biamp is great technically, makes logical sense and science.
but we're talking NEARFIELD monitors, not the LA FORUM ARENA too.

Anyway, I couldnt' hear the difference much between my passive and active setups. I've had both and its not one is better in my opinion. My pasive setup had ADCOM speaker slector 5qty could be hooked up, passive speakers 50% off...think DYNAUDIO BM6 instead of cheap Actives.
Of course all the "true" amp guys know an outboard amp will most likely be better built......
to me the decison could be application specific, as the sound IMO is subtle.

then there's the room thing. this throws another whole dimension into the monitor performance..
I think the room, is a bigger effect on your sound, than say a Yorkville ACTIVE versus a Yorkville PASSIVE monitoring setup.

and I have NEVER BEEN WRONG MY ENTIRE LIFE!
:p
 
wasn't the one great thing about nearfield that the room is the least to worry about?
 
that made me laugh...but yeah, that's the MAIN things about Nearfields, is my understanding too...

too many details and science, I forget the basic's sometimes.

but a room does have a big impact on sound, even a home Hifi....I think Nearfield takes some of it out. I don't know shit....every now and then I think I'm at 10% then its back top 0%.

some times, its easy to "overthink" stuff.....some call it wasted time, or STUDYING THE TURD. I do this regularly.

I spent alot of time on a RTA graph, then I realize the human ear doesn't work anything like the measurement mic.......so what does that mean?
:p :confused: :eek: ;) :rolleyes: :D
 
:D

LOL. This shit doesn;t stop to puzzle me. I'll just buy the freaking B&W's and be ******* done with it.

oh wait. the room is important then ...


Damn.
 
I thimk that given two duplicate speakers designs ( one active and one passive) you will get the same quality of sound for less money by going the passive route. The advantage of going passive is not just that initial cost savings, but the expandibility. Down the road you could spend some decent money on an amp and all of a sudden for about 25% more than the active speakers originally cost, you would end up with a MUCH better system once you integrate an excellent amp. Passive setups seem to handle volume better as well.
 
I am in the market for my first set of monitors. Is there currently a good place to get the wharfedale's online? Since my budget is only able to allow 300 or so dollars they sound like the best option. Any help on where to purchase would be appreciated.
 
that link is for passive BTW.

fyi, I read in HT in October Wharfedale (and Quad) moved manufacturiing to China to some huge mfg house that makes a large number of various brands all under the same manufacturing roof. strange.
the article said it was all state of the art and yadayadayada..shit...but it looked like mass production to me....foundried out.
Not that thats bad. JUDGE FOR YOURSELF.

But the "name" that lead to alot of the "good press" was from the Wharf speakers made many years ago in England.

Dewd said the Yorks YSM1p's are made in China too now...? I like mine, but its a concern when they start cutting costs to make a profit. Once that mentality starts you can ruin a product design...while still having the same cosmetics...but its not the same product that got great reviews 10years ago, for example.

Newer is always better per the Marketing guys.... :rolleyes: yeah, right.

link- http://blog.hometheatermag.com/markfleischmann/110405eccentric/
 
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DeepWater, I sent you a PM a few days ago, still no response. I would really like to get a pair of these 8.2As. LMK. :)
 
Deepwater hasnt been active around here in like 2 years....I may still have his number...If I do I could probably give him a call to see if he is still selling these...Last time I spoke to him he had moved into installing live sound equipment...
 
Deepwater horror

I'd just like to add since I never bothered to tell anyone that I had a terrible experience with Deepwater about 2 years ago.

My speakers arrived about a month and 3 weeks after I ordered them dented and scratched badly. I took pictures - I'll have to look and see if I saved them - for my records and emailed deepwater. I don't think I ever got a response from him until I managed to hunt down his local number through the yellow pages.

He assured me that UPS has dented a pair before and that he shipped them insured. He actually told me that I would end up with the insurance money + the dented speakers after all was done. So you mean I get a free pair of speakers and my money back sounds too good to be true - well guess what :).

So I called UPS and started the whole process. UPS claimed that they were only coming by to check the merchandise but they really wanted to take the speakers and send them back to deepwater. After my futile protests I just ended up giving them to UPS to ship to deepwater. Here is the thing - UPS will not tell you if they covered the insurance claim or not, they will only tell deepwater.

Okay somewhere around month 6 of no communication (phone, email, or otherwise) , refund, or speakers. I finally ended up sicking his wife on him via his home phone number. That did the trick :) See at this point I was very pissed. Not only did he have my money, he had my speakers, AND possibly an insurance refund of $300+. So he had a possibly grand total of $900 maybe more of merch and I had nothing.

Through out this entire interaction I was extremely laid back and cool with the guy but to tell the truth he just came off as not giving a crap. It wasn't until I sicked his wife on him (who couldn't believe how long I had waited) and threatened legal action that I got a refund and went somewhere else.

If you guys want a real deal on these speakers - call IAG directly and bypass the middle man. That was by far the most hassle free transaction and the cheapest way to go. Deepwater was an absolute nightmare.

Currently running 4 Wharfedale 8.2 actives and a sub for Quadraphonic/Surround Sound playback with Delta 1010 sound interface. I love these speakers for my small room and if I was ever to update I would probably buy the IAG Quads. Also IAG who is the parent company of Wharfedale has many other sister companies with great speakers for consumers and audiophiles that are worth looking into. So I have no problem with the product at all but just buyer beware with blind internet sales.
 
You guys are waking up my curiosity... Whaferdles doesn't seem to be REFERENCE monitors, but regular home sound system monitors. It doesn't say anywhere on the website that it has a flat and true response...
 
wharfedalepro.com
quadindustrial.com

They may not be REFERENCE monitors like your, m-audios, truths, or NS10s.

But I think they make a damn good budget reference monitor. I just find it funny you used the caps because that's exactly how your mixes will sound to me mixed on some NS-10s :)
 
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