"The Passing" With Lt. Bob and Pedullist

  • Thread starter Thread starter SLuiCe
  • Start date Start date
Well looks like you guys pulled it off again ...

fuck this just sounds great very ambient etc..

what did you use for the drums ?

ps Sluice move on, leave it as it is ... its good
 
..bummer, yeah.....that 'splains alot:(

Im sure you already tried narrowing the notch, and im guessing that it didnt get all of the noise out. Do you have any other compressors to fart around with? I might try that route if you really wanna get into this. Imho, bass guitar is not the instrument for transparent compression...... ...It usually tends to compress more effectively/efficiently and be more mix-friendly w/ a bit of a "masher".... This isnt always true, but in rock music i would say 90% of the time it is. ...anyways, just thinking out loud.

edit- imvho

GREAT tune fellas
 
Last edited:
Cool ambience.

I thought Ped's bass part was perfect for the song. Kind of a low, simmering, "don't mess with me or I'll kill you" sound. Excellent job.

I think the sax works very well with the exceptions of the little sections that run from :52 to :56 and from 1:03 to 1:06. If it were me, I'd start the sax part from what Lt. was playing at 1:06 There's a change up in what he's doing at 1:06. To me that's where the sax part begins to support the song well. Before that, it's pulling too much attention away from the ambience of the song. Just my opinion.

Lt. - the sound you get on those pipes is terrific.

Very good sound top to bottom...
 
Ill trade monitor buzz for fret buzz anyday;):D

...where's ped been?
 
This was fantastic! I am not a huge sax guy. In other words, I don't ususally like sax that much. Don't know why, but the sax sounds in this are just perfect. I love the approach by the LT and the mix. It really adds. Maybe not liking sax depends on the player ;) :)

The Ped bass was also a fantastic addition. I thought the part and note slides were right on for the song. Can't help too much on the buzzing problems. I hope to have my bass sound worked out for the challenge collab. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Last, I want to congratulate you on another great arrangement, melody, etc. Great musicianship all around. I do miss a little of the more middle eastern sound you had before, but if I had never heard that, I would be none the wiser.

As always, I look forward to you next piece.

Todd
 
SLuiCe said:
I have been blessed with the priviledge (and great challenge) of pursuing the best possible mix of Lt. Bob's saxaphone section and Pedullist's frettless bass into my tune. Their contributions have taken the song into a more "organic" and natural place. But it's still a big mix. Steve had suggested using his sax parts in more of a synth pad type approach, which was a good idea. But the parts IMO were so sweet that I felt they needed more presence in the song. Pedullist's smooth fretless bass playing also demands its own unique space. Hopefully nothing is lost in his track. I also brought more guitar into the mix, so essentially all the major synth work has either been lowered in volume, or simply deleted.

These guys are both top notch players IMO, and it felt like playing with them both on stage while I was mixing this. I'm hoping to reflect that in the mix. Thanks in advance for any listens, comments, and suggestions you may offer about anything you hear!

Tom

"The Passing"

now this is pro stuff!
 
Re: Re: "The Passing" With Lt. Bob and Pedullist

super_critic said:
now this is pro stuff!

Gotcha eh!Now I KNOW who you are.But WHY dude?Your shit isnt all that,in fact it's pretty medicore.:rolleyes:
 
Re: Re: Re: "The Passing" With Lt. Bob and Pedullist

Kramer said:
Gotcha eh!Now I KNOW who you are.But WHY dude?Your shit isnt all that,in fact it's pretty medicore.:rolleyes:

Let me guess,the same jerk doing the one star crap.
A long time member with a chip on his shoulder!



Cool tune Tom,I dig the synth at the beginning.

Bass playing is great,just sounds like it needs more definition and punch.
Wish I could help you there,all I do is cut the lows,pump the mids,compress the heck out of it and let it fly!:D

Sax is great as always.
As are the vocals.
Outstanding!

I especially liked the electric guitar work,great playing and tone.
It really cut through the mix,very big and sweet.

How did you record them?


Great job guys!
A three person collab,no easy feat by any means!
How did you guys get everything together?

Pete
 
Brilliant.









Absolutely Brilliant.








By the way, you can't "return to normal" if you've never been there. This is something I know, lol.









Touching and brilliant.











Was the bass tracked after the current drum track? (I haven't read the thread; sorry).
 
bdbdbuck- Thanks a lot dude. I mentioned in an earlier response that I'm impressed by people who can weave fluently, and both these guys are very good at that. I think they knew just what to play, and that's why it came together pretty well IMO. Thanks for listening.

lynx- Evil indeed. It was written as a message to Osama Bin Laden shortly after 9/11. We all had our ways of venting I guess. Thanks for checkin' it out.

twist- Thanks man. Yea he did some nice sorta "drone" stuff too that worked nicely between phrases. I was more than happy to kick the synth out to make room for his playing. I'm actually really starting to hate synths. It's happening to me.

_ronin75_- Drumkit From Hell, but there is also some percussion I programmed with the Korg Triton. Thqat's the stuff you hear right from the beginning. Thank you.

Guernica-
Imho, bass guitar is not the instrument for transparent compression...... ...It usually tends to compress more effectively/efficiently and be more mix-friendly w/ a bit of a "masher"....
Now that's something I can experiment with! Thanks a lot Mike. I never did consider transparency with the bass, and it certainly stands to reason that that might be a big part of my trouble with bass. You may have helped me a lot, Mike. Appreciated. Also, Tjarko is on holiday. Least that's how the Dutch say it I guess. Like the Brits. Me? I'm going on vacation next week. Say it with me...nice and slow...enjoy the word...vaaacaaaatioooonnnn. :) Here's a quote from Tjarko about the bass "buzz" after he sent me the tracks.
The noise is monitor noise. It's an oldfashioned monitor, the kind that shoots off protons at your pickups. I should have turned it off during recording but I forgot.
Interesting electronics they've got in the Netherlands. He said he'd re-track it if I wanted, which was cool. We'll see if it's necessary later. Thanks again, Mike.

TripleM-
I thought Ped's bass part was perfect for the song. Kind of a low, simmering, "don't mess with me or I'll kill you" sound. Excellent job.
The word "brooding" came quickly to mind. I loved it. I really should, like Mike said, work on getting more of that fretless sound to cut through. I lost a lot of definition cutting said noise. Someday after I make a few more tunes I go back to it. I'll have tolisten again to hear what you mean about the opening sax parts. Thanks a lot Trip.

skids-
This was fantastic! I am not a huge sax guy. In other words, I don't ususally like sax that much....Maybe not liking sax depends on the player
I agree 100%. I honestly can't stand the way more people treat a sax. That's why it still amazes me that now, thanks to Steve, I have THREE songs with sax in them. Wild. Also, I'm sure Pedullist will appreciate your comments when he gets back from vacation and reads this. His playing really brings life to the bottom end of this song. Thanks a lot skids.

super_critic- To be honest, I'm not sure I could really take much of what you say seriously. But thanks anyway.

Kramer- The dude from Sam's thread, right? He's got tunes? Thought he was just one of those "I'm gonna help people by making them realize they suck" guys. Either way, lwhatever is going on, let's not screw up a music thread over it. I'd rather that shit stayed in the cave.

muzeman- Thanks Pete. I totally agree about the bass needing a bit more presence. Mike is helping me a bit with that too, and hopefully the guy who actually played the part will be around sometime soon to chime in. The electric guitar chain is Paul Reed Smith guitar>Marshall JCM900 head>Fender cabinet>SM57>PC. Glad you liked it Pete. Thanks again.



Thanks a lot guys. Feels good to get music like this together with people from around the world. Feels amazing, actually.
 
chrisharris said:
Was the bass tracked after the current drum track? (I haven't read the thread; sorry).

Oh ya, I was going to explain that in an earlier response, Chris. The drums were existing. I sent the previous mix to Lt. Bob. He then gave me his tracks on CD. I gave Pedullist an MP3 with the sax, and he gave me an MP3 of the bass. Hmmmm...wondering if we should try a CD there too.

Anyway...thanks a lot for the compliments, I'm sure those guys will apreciate them too!


Tom
 
SLuiCe said:

Thanks a lot guys. Feels good to get music like this together with people from around the world. Feels amazing, actually.[/i]
I thought Steve was from Louisiana? That's not around the world; that's around the corner :D
 
chrisharris said:
I thought Steve was from Louisiana? That's not around the world; that's around the corner :D

First off Chris, I'm from Maine. Lousiana is around the world to me. And I have a third grade education. Well I dropped out half way through the third grade to pursue a career in fishing.

And second, Pedullist. Pedullist is from the Netherlands. Well he claims to be. He might be from Cleveland for all I know. But he knows Dutch so...


:)
 
Last edited:
SLuiCe said:
Hmmmm...wondering if we should try a CD there too.
Just so you know.....it doesn't cost that much to send CDs internationally.......I sent one to dobro for our collab and it was only like $3 or so. I was very surprised.
 
Thanks Steve. It wasn't so much a money thing. We didn't think a lot would be lost through MP3 compression in a bass track. I think we lost more by having to EQ out that buzz I mentioned. I'm sure he'll retrack if I ask. I do wonder how much better it could be. But I always wonder that.
 
SLuiCe said:
super_critic- To be honest, I'm not sure I could really take much of what you say seriously. But thanks anyway.

you should take it seriously.
 
I dug the sax and Ped's bass playing made this song even more intresting. Did you retrack the voc's on this SluiCe, or are they the same?

David
 
super_critic said:
you should take it seriously.

Nobody here takes you serious about anything.You're not an authority on music you old has been hack.

NOW you are a bonafide troll.
 
freshears said:
Did you retrack the voc's on this SluiCe, or are they the same?

Same. Thanks a lot for listening David! Sorry about the childishness going on around us.
 
It's been happening a bunch lately.......ya'll know....if we would just stop responding to that stuff.....it would go away on it's own.
 
Back
Top