The New Tone Thread

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You've read through them, Greg. Was there any consensus? On multiple clips like that I always try and not read other peoples opinions as you get a kind of placebo effect from it.

That's a pretty good service from Dunlop.
 
JDOD said:
You've read through them, Greg. Was there any consensus? On multiple clips like that I always try and not read other peoples opinions as you get a kind of placebo effect from it.

That's a pretty good service from Dunlop.
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The only thing that was pretty much unanimous was the P90 SG being a badass. I agree with that sentiment. But I separate that guitar from the Hallmark Mosrite thing. There is an issue in the surf community of people always comparing or making Mosrites like a Fender or a Gibson. They are neither. Fenders and Gibsons are just more accessible and everyone knows those sounds. In my own opinion, a Mosrite might be a single coil surf guitar, but it's sound is more Gibson-like to me. They're way fatter and pluckier than Fenders, but they don't sustain anywhere near a typical Gibson. I don't know why, but Mosrites do not sustain well. And it's fine because they're surf guitars. There's no singing sustain in surf music. It's all plucky punchy tone.

This started out as just a shootout between the pickups for the 60 Custom. The real P90 and Strat were thrown in for reference as they are the more standard type single coils out there. The P90s SG's vol rolling tone is a little misleading though as the pots in that guitar don't cut the signal very much. The P90 might seem hotter, but it isn't. Those pots just don't cut much signal. I really prefer the taper of the 500k audio pots in the Hallmark.

I think my own personal opinions lined up with yours more than anyone else's. Reading your post was almost like reading my own.

The bottom line is the P-Rails, Fat Pig, and original-spec pickups are all pretty similar, but they do have their little nuances that set them apart. For me, the P-Rails lack of midrange grind was never more apparent than when I put those Mosrite type pickups back in the guitar. For me, the tighter low end of the Fat Pig and more aggressive upper mids make it the winner in that guitar for the styles I play.
 
Great news about the eq pedal dude, that's surprising, but really good service/commitment from that company...
 
Yeah I'll pay the 50 bucks to fix my mistake. If I could diagnose it myself, I would, but besides just looking for burned components I don't know what else to do. I see one little cap in the EQ pedal that looks a little toasty where it connects to the board, but it could just be some some darkness from the soldering process. It's not fried enough to tell for sure.

I sent out emails to two Craigslist clowns selling this same pedal, but neither guy has gotten back to me. Wtf. They either sold them already and haven't taken the listings down, which is bad CL etiquette, or they're the worst salespeople ever.
 
hmmmmm I wonder if they'll fix a 30 year old MXR stereo chorus pedal?
have to see .... do you have a secret number for contacting them?
 
It's not a secret number, but here's their number.

(707) 745-2722

I just sent em an email, they told me what to do, and I just sent the pedal on its way. Clock starts now. Let's see how they do.
 
Wander if they'll replace the, now slightly shonky, wahwah that my sister got me for my 17th Birthday.
 
I always say that the main reason I don't post my music is that I do it for myself and there's nothing remotely commercial about any of it.

Here's proof .... this is something I did that I like a lot ...... you won't ..... but it's an example of what I like to do with my recording efforts.

There's nary a guitar

It's long

It's boring

You'll hate it

You have been warned.

(I had a slightly larger file that sounded better to me but was apparently too large .... it had more of the bottom end this thing needs .... ah well )
 

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Haha, the rain intro is too long for me, but the rest is fine. I can totally hear that in a movie running during the opening or closing credits or something. I like the low sax thing that pops in and out.
 
Here's what I did today with the Hallmark and Fat Pig pickup. Another demo from my bands' "influences" cover album. This one's my selection. I killed two birds with one stone - Chinese Rocks. A song written by Dee Dee Ramone, Richard Hell, and Johnny Thunders. It signifies my Ramones/Heartbreakers influence in one song. And my love for heroin. Not really. Well, maybe.

This one also has real drums on it where the others I've posted had ez drummer. I figured I could just bang this one out, and I was right. One take, the first and only take. Lol.

It also has layers and layers of guitars, which is rare for me. I'm usually a few rhythm tracks, one lead, and go kind of guy.

So this is today's fucking around session.
Chinese Rocks
 
Greg_L said:
So this is today's fucking around session.
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I just start laughing when I listen to your tracks 'cause they're so fucking good and it's obviously effortless which is why, even though it's fast as fuck, it's relaxed sounding.

Man .... that's really good ....
 
Aw, thanks Boob. I really just sort of banged it out. To be fair though, I have been knowing and playing that song since I was around 14-15 years old. I always say practice and preparation makes better recordings. One well-rehearsed take is better than 500 edits spliced together. I've got 25 years of practice on that song. :D

I do wish I had tuned that rack tom a little deeper. I'm not crazy about it. But it is what it is. I like the guitar layers. They work together well for the song IMO.
 
I like the hyperspace drums.:D
Just listened on my phone so i don't get the full flavor, but it sounds good.

@lt Bob. Gotta listen later. Can't open it on the phone. Gotta go to the full site.
 
Lt. Bob said:
I always say that the main reason I don't post my music is that I do it for myself and there's nothing remotely commercial about any of it.

Here's proof .... this is something I did that I like a lot ...... you won't ..... but it's an example of what I like to do with my recording efforts.

There's nary a guitar

It's long

It's boring

You'll hate it

You have been warned.

(I had a slightly larger file that sounded better to me but was apparently too large .... it had more of the bottom end this thing needs .... ah well )
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Its not that long once the weather has done its thing, the one minute intro is a bit much though.

Everything sounds really well recorded and put together though, Bob. You know what it sounds a bit like to me, if you can imagine an extended mix of Tusk with either a weird interlude or lengthy intro - that's what it sounds like! Given that we're mainly supposed to be talking about tone and mixing - there's nothing that stands out as being wrong. The other thing is sounds a bit like is a soundtrack from an adventure video game.

There's a thing that comes in towards the end that's a bit like a basoon or tuba sound and its a bit quiet. Could you not go full on French Horn here? That would sound great! And in a few places where the main pan pipe riff changes to be longer notes, they seem like they're a bit too clipped at the ends.

What instruments are you using to get all those sounds?
 
Greg_L said:
Here's what I did today with the Hallmark and Fat Pig pickup. Another demo from my bands' "influences" cover album. This one's my selection. I killed two birds with one stone - Chinese Rocks. A song written by Dee Dee Ramone, Richard Hell, and Johnny Thunders. It signifies my Ramones/Heartbreakers influence in one song. And my love for heroin. Not really. Well, maybe.

This one also has real drums on it where the others I've posted had ez drummer. I figured I could just bang this one out, and I was right. One take, the first and only take. Lol.

It also has layers and layers of guitars, which is rare for me. I'm usually a few rhythm tracks, one lead, and go kind of guy.

So this is today's fucking around session.
Chinese Rocks
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Sounds great, Greg! As you say, practising makes the whole recording process much, much easier.

The toms are a bit upfront when they come in.

The other thing is the pick-scrape just after half way - sounds a bit out of place, like its been stuck on top afterwards rather than part of one of the guitar takes. It just sticks out as being different.
 
Thanks J. There's nothing stuck on top of anything. All of that is solid all-the-way-through takes. It's not a pickslide, it's a....I don't know what you call it. A surf thing. Rapid picking while you slide a note down the neck. What's that called? Maybe Lt Bob knows a name for it, if it has a name. Anyway that part is like five guitars all doing it at the same time. :laughings:
 
Greg_L said:
Thanks J. There's nothing stuck on top of anything. All of that is solid all-the-way-through takes. It's not a pickslide, it's a....I don't know what you call it. A surf thing. Rapid picking while you slide a note down the neck. What's that called? Maybe Lt Bob knows a name for it, if it has a name. Anyway that part is like five guitars all doing it at the same time. :laughings:
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Trem picking with a slide. 5 guitars doing it at once! No wonder it stands out!

Sounds great though, aside from that slightly weird tom, it sounds like a completely professional commercial mix.
 
I love the floor tom, I'm kind of neutral on the rack tom. It's not great, it's not terrible. It's just mediocre. I always hear worse toms on better recordings, so fuck it. I could EQ/compress a deeper tone out of it. It's got nothing on it right now. I don't think I'll retrack it. Overall I'm good with the drums.

Today I'm tracking drums for four other songs, so I'll be retuning it for those.
 
Greg_L said:
I love the floor tom, I'm kind of neutral on the rack tom. It's not great, it's not terrible. It's just mediocre. I always hear worse toms on better recordings, so fuck it. I could EQ/compress a deeper tone out of it. It's got nothing on it right now. I don't think I'll retrack it. Overall I'm good with the drums.

Today I'm tracking drums for four other songs, so I'll be retuning it for those.
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Its not bad as such, it just stands out. I'm in the office listening on a pair of hard-shell Senns. When you've got a vocal over it you probably won't even notice.
 
Lt. Bob said:
I always say that the main reason I don't post my music is that I do it for myself and there's nothing remotely commercial about any of it.

Here's proof .... this is something I did that I like a lot ...... you won't ..... but it's an example of what I like to do with my recording efforts.

There's nary a guitar

It's long

It's boring

You'll hate it

You have been warned.

(I had a slightly larger file that sounded better to me but was apparently too large .... it had more of the bottom end this thing needs .... ah well )
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cool instrumental Lt Bob. I thought the low end was fine. Drums sounded really good. I liked the slow build of the groove. Did you record the rain and thunder? The thunder sounded really good. I tried to record a gunshot for a song I'm doing "suicide" and a 12 Guage shotgun blast, that would make your ears ring, sounded a party popper. I ended up using a mp3 file I found on the Internet for the gun blast.
well done man!
 
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