The New Tone Thread

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Bata-Scouts, weren't they THE thing? Most wear running shoes in disguise - well that's what the ads say for the VERY expensive black joggers.
 
Ray I aint seeing nothing. Please re-send.

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I have a drums gig tonight. At least I'll be able to hear myself this time. :D
 
I just re-tracked the vocals for We Are The Road Crew, giving it the full Lemmy. Think I'll have a herbal tea now.
 
RAMI said:
Well, if you get the same sound man and he tells you to hit lighter, you'll know it's a personal thing. :D
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Haha, no this is a different venue. I know the soundguy at tonight's place, and he's one of the few good ones. For me, it's a lot less critical when drumming. I don't need to hear myself in my monitors because I'm sitting right at the loudest instrument on stage. All I need is one guitar and lead vocals. I don't even want bass. I can hear the bass from the stage. Don't need it in my monitor. I want rhythm guitar and vocal because he starts most of the songs that I don't count in myself. Then a tiny bit of lead guitar because he starts one song and sometimes I cue a change off of his mindless noodling. And then my own backup vocal which I can hear inside my head anyway. Pretty simple I guess.
 
Bubba po said:
It was this, Greg. It's a facebook link though. I don't think you "do" FB?
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Haha, no I didn't see that link, and I most definitely do not do any facebooking. But I have seen that clip before. Pretty funny. Little Cretins Hopping. They fucked up the third verse though, so I'm sure they'll be sent to Pyongyang labor camps!
 
Supposedly this is the earliest live footage of Ramones. This is their third gig ever. Before they crafted their identity. Johnny wearing glammy clothes, Dee Dee playing with his fingers, both guys on the opposite sides of what would be their usual stage placement, Joey acting all campy, bickering onstage, etc. The Korean kids didn't do any worse. :D
 
The CBGB vid is really cool historically - all the things Greg pointed out even the choice of a Danelectro for finger bass, Johnny bare chested etc. They were already on the musical path but had worked out an identity - seems they were all moving in different directions. Arturo's input, visually, was massive.
 
rayc said:
The CBGB vid is really cool historically - all the things Greg pointed out even the choice of a Danelectro for finger bass, Johnny bare chested etc. They were already on the musical path but had worked out an identity - seems they were all moving in different directions. Arturo's input, visually, was massive.
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I wonder if, at that time, they "knew" they would be so iconic. I would think that hoping you'll be big is sort of against the spirit of punk at the time, so it's a bit of a paradox.
 
RAMI said:
I wonder if, at that time, they "knew" they would be so iconic. I would think that hoping you'll be big is sort of against the spirit of punk at the time, so it's a bit of a paradox.
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There was no "punk" as we know it at that point, and they generally shunned the label as it became more popular. They just wanted to be a stripped down rock and roll band. It took several years before they accepted their fate as commercially rejected punk pioneers. They wanted album sales and radio hits. They never got it.
 
Greg_L said:
There was no "punk" as we know it at that point, and they generally shunned the label as it became more popular. They just wanted to be a stripped down rock and roll band. It took several years before they accepted their fate as commercially rejected punk pioneers. They wanted album sales and radio hits. They never got it.
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Ah there you go. Cool. maybe not getting radio play made them last longer, so it was a blessing in disguise.
 
RAMI said:
Ah there you go. Cool. maybe not getting radio play made them last longer, so it was a blessing in disguise.
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Their live show and obsessively devoted fanbase was what really kept them going. Ramones live was an amazing thing. The albums are great and all, but live...man. That was something else. The straw that finally broke their back was the pop-punk revival of the early 90s. Crap like Green Day and Rancid and The Offspring. These were bands that were barely even born when the Ramones started, and they went on to huge success using the formula the Ramones invented. That was the Ramones last chance and it still didn't happen even though everyone in music trumpeted their importance. It almost happened for them at the end of their career, but in true Ramones fashion, they came up just short.
 
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