The New Tone Thread

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I'm genuinely quite saddened by Lemmys death.

Glad you got to see him before he popped off, Greg.
 
I barely know who he was but I always hate to see musicians of my era die ..... means I'm coming up to my sell-by date.

We're the last of an special and unique era of musicians so R.I.P. Lemmy .... see ya' on the other side.
 
Lt. Bob said:
We're the last of an special and unique era of musicians so R.I.P. Lemmy .... see ya' on the other side.
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I actually agree with that. I like a lot of modern-ish stuff, but pretty much all of it is just a re-hash of the stuff that came before it. I don't know who, if anyone, is truly treading new ground in rock and roll. I don't know if there even is any new ground. Those old originator guys were one of a kind.

For people like me, Motorhead was important because they built the bridge between punk and metal. They weren't exactly "punk rock", and they weren't metal. They occupied the area in-between and that made us all love them. Punks and headbangers could find a common ground in Motorhead.
 
Regarding buying stuff for Christmas, I'm torn between buying a pair of Beyerdynamic DT-990-Pro-250 headphones for mixing when it's inconvenient to have my monitors on (which is most of the time) or a KRK RP 10s sub, which I can use for my mixing, use as a hi-fi add-on to just listen to music for its own sake or use with my TV system. Any thoughts?
 
lol .........
 

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Here's a 2nd take of my new little bass guitar.
It's only mic'd.
1st run is rhythm + bass. The 2nd is rhythm + treble. The 3rd is switched to solo.
When I did this set I only used the neck vol for the 1st. Just to suss out if the PUs were further out of phase than normal.
Greg and others can you hear phasing still. I did notice that I haven't yet learnt to damp notes on this bass, the bridge and other physical bits'n'pieces are still unfamiliar, so a lot of notes ring on under those that follow.
Interesting also is that the samples taken mic'd from my amp have an almost straight diagonal roll off from 100Hz to 0 where as the DI' had humps'n'dumps under 100.
handy little bass for trying out parts anyway.
I now have 4 to choose from:
Big Emperador hollowbody with Fender flats, solid Vantage with rounds, massive acoustic no name with rounds and this little "Beatle" bass with hollow body, no F holes, round wounds that feel almost 1/2 round.
 
The be honest Bubba I don't trust or like subs.
No, that's not fair - I don't trust my ears to set them properly and worry about too much bass, wrong cross over levels etc. & don't end up enjoying the experience.
 
rayc said:
The be honest Bubba I don't trust or like subs.
No, that's not fair - I don't trust my ears to set them properly and worry about too much bass, wrong cross over levels etc. & don't end up enjoying the experience.
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That's fair enough, Ray. I mostly want it to listen to my music AFTER it's mixed and to put my telly through on film night, to be honest. My Yamaha HS5s are extremely detailed in the midrange and a little light in the bass, I probably wouldn't mix with it on most of the time so it would be more of a check on rogue boominess more than anything. I'm not intending to do any dance or hip-hop production, lol :D
 
rayc said:

Here's a 2nd take of my new little bass guitar.
It's only mic'd.
1st run is rhythm + bass. The 2nd is rhythm + treble. The 3rd is switched to solo.
When I did this set I only used the neck vol for the 1st. Just to suss out if the PUs were further out of phase than normal.
Greg and others can you hear phasing still. I did notice that I haven't yet learnt to damp notes on this bass, the bridge and other physical bits'n'pieces are still unfamiliar, so a lot of notes ring on under those that follow.
Interesting also is that the samples taken mic'd from my amp have an almost straight diagonal roll off from 100Hz to 0 where as the DI' had humps'n'dumps under 100.
handy little bass for trying out parts anyway.
I now have 4 to choose from:
Big Emperador hollowbody with Fender flats, solid Vantage with rounds, massive acoustic no name with rounds and this little "Beatle" bass with hollow body, no F holes, round wounds that feel almost 1/2 round.
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Interesting bass sounds you have there and in your earlier post. There are quite a lot of volume leaps and drops between examples, so hard to compare them easily. Would it be worth normalising in Reaper?
 
Bubba Po,
The volume changes are as it comes from the bass. I've "norm'd" them individually otherwise it would've been essentially the same with relative volume.
Oh, the rattle in the background is me & the new strings a little too close to the mic.
Here you go:
 
We were talking about Fenders and different wattage amps on another thread. I recorded this as an experiment. It's a verse and chorus of an original song I hope will be posted in the Clinic soon, vocals muted.

I recorded two short guitar solos using a Gibson SG Special with Duncan Seth Lover pickups. I recorded delay on both solos. It's a TC Hall of Fame on analog setting, synced to the quarter notes. [Edit: Should have written: TC Flashback.]

The first solo is with the SG's bridge pickup through a 22 watt Fender DRRI. Volume is at 5, bass rolled back a bit. 5-6 seems to be the sweet spot for edge of breakup with a humbucker on this amp. Also quite loud enough for my middle aged hearing, so I was playing in the next room with headphones on. The mic is my M-Audio ribbon set back about six feet. The room has hardwood floors. I set the amp up on a footstool.

The second solo uses the neck pickup, my favorite. It's through my Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 18 on the 5 watt setting and a closed back 1x10. I used the clean channel with the master dimed and gain about 7. I put an SM57 on the grill cloth. The rhythm guitar on the left is exactly the same thing, but with the volume knob on the guitar dialed back. The sound level in the room was comfortable.

The bass is Fender Jazz, neck pickup, using the DI out of a Gallien-Krueger MB500. Drums are EZ Drummer.

I've got some thoughts on how these tones could be improved. What are yours?
 
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The 1st sounds a little thin Robus. Nice but a little thin. The 2nd sounds fuller and sweeter. The delay seems to have picked up the odd scratch or rattle that could be edited out.
mellow stuff but good.
 
Thanks. That scratching sound is my finger vibrato coming through the amp. I need to work on my habit of continuing the vibrato after the note has faded.

I agree the first is thin. I would turn the volume on the amp up one more notch to 6. There's not much more volume output to be had above 6 or 7, but the amp starts to compress more. It would thicken the tone up and soften the spikiness of some of those finger plucks.

The neck pickup on that guitar is so sweet.
 
both sound nice to me ..... I too like the neck better nut on my speakers I wouldn't call the first 'thin' ..... more like 'brighter' ..... a lot more sparkle on top.
Nice
 
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