The New Tone Thread

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Wasn't able to turn it up that loud. Another time...
I also tried a Line 6 Flextone III that was floating around.
What a joke of an amp. All of the distortions was bees.
 
1x12 orange cab. V30 if I'm not mistaken. The one in the picture.
 
What's in the 2x12 cab in that pic dude???

FWIW, I hate my Orange PPC112.......but, I do know the speaker that came out of it is getting good use...:).
 
It's a 2x10 bass cabinet. We reamped a bass track through it during a break.

I reamped 8 different tracks through four amplifiers today and noted down the settings on every run. I've still got to reamp through the Rectifier, the AxeFx and an Eleven Rack unit for the big showdown. :D
 
Clips of Haggard ness

Here are two clips to digest. I am really not happy with at all, and i think i fell for the old "You listened to it for too long with our breaks so here's a heaping helping of shitty tone"


On Its own

In a mix (and i use that term loosely)

I have people coming for a BBQ and it is late so i won't be getting back at it today but hopefully in the next day or two. Any suggestions welcome.

One thought i did have was backing the mic of the grill cloth a bit. Might as some depth and warmth maybe? Also i think i need to spend more time finding the balls of this thing.

Thanks tonetards.
 
Ok dude, I was just wondering...I thought it was a bass cab, but wasn't for sure...

Just out of curiosity, have you tried running the JCM800 through that bass cab??? It's got 12" speakers, right??? You never know, it may sound killer...
 
Shan I actually like that tone dude, & I like it even more in the mix...I do hear that woofy-ness while the clip is solo'd, but I don't really hear it in the mix myself...If that little eq thing bothers you, just whack it out with an eq dude, I think that's a pretty good tone & it fits the mix IMO....

And, I heard just a blip of vocals there & it stopped....why man, why did you do that???
 
minerman said:
Shan I actually like that tone dude, & I like it even more in the mix...I do hear that woofy-ness while the clip is solo'd, but I don't really hear it in the mix myself...If that little eq thing bothers you, just whack it out with an eq dude, I think that's a pretty good tone & it fits the mix IMO....

And, I heard just a blip of vocals there & it stopped....why man, why did you do that???
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Crap. I totally rendered it down with the eq turned on. Sorry. I don't know man it just sounds kind of limp and lacking something? Or maybe I am just so used to sim tones I'm not used to it. I'll give it another day to marinate and give my ears a rest and see what I think then.

Thanks miner.

Gotta wait for the vocals. haha. I'm still kind of trying different mixing techniques on those.
 
ShanPeyton said:
Here are two clips to digest. I am really not happy with at all, and i think i fell for the old "You listened to it for too long with our breaks so here's a heaping helping of shitty tone"


On Its own

In a mix (and i use that term loosely)

I have people coming for a BBQ and it is late so i won't be getting back at it today but hopefully in the next day or two. Any suggestions welcome.

One thought i did have was backing the mic of the grill cloth a bit. Might as some depth and warmth maybe? Also i think i need to spend more time finding the balls of this thing.

Thanks tonetards.
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I don't think that sounds bad at all. If it were me, I'd try to get a little more sparkle out of the guitars.

It does sound kind of stiff to me though. That could be lots of things. Could need more volume. It could be the speakers are still stiff and new. That "woof" is pretty normal with miking a speaker. It's usually not a problem in a full mix and it gives you some thickness.
 
another vote for it sounding good but needing a bit 'o' sparkle ..... but even as is it sounds nice to me.
 
antichef said:
could a single V30 handle a 2203 full in the face? (and by that I mean turned up the way we all want it to be)
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I think it'll be pretty close to the danger zone. Theoretically a wound up 2203 should blow it to pieces, but that isn't usually the case.
 
Greg_L said:
I think it'll be pretty close to the danger zone. Theoretically a wound up 2203 should blow it to pieces, but that isn't usually the case.
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Yeah I totally agree on that Greg, I used a single speaker in that home-made ISO cab for a pretty good while when I first got the DSL, & I was always worried about blowing my speaker, but I was using the 50w mode most of the time too....He might be ok....maybe.....:D.
 
antichef said:
could a single V30 handle a 2203 full in the face? (and by that I mean turned up the way we all want it to be)
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When I first turned it on and turned it up past two there was a loud pop and then no more sound.
I turned the amp back on and off and it was fine again. I'd say it wasn't the healthiest relationship.
 
Schwarzenyaeger said:
When I first turned it on and turned it up past two there was a loud pop and then no more sound.
I turned the amp back on and off and it was fine again. I'd say it wasn't the healthiest relationship.
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That's certainly weird. A single 12 and a 100w JCM 800 is not a match made in heaven. Even though it has a master volume, that amp is not intended for quiet playing. It is potentially one of the loudest, most powerful amps Marshall made. The punch that those things is capable of is pretty shocking. Mine will literally knock things off my walls. Seriously. Things fall down in here when I crank mine up. I'm not saying it will definitely blow up your V30, but it's not the best scenario, and if you can't get that amp to be what it wants to be, your experiment will be flawed. I might sound like I'm rallying for the 800, and that's because I am. It's my favorite amp of all time! :D

If you get a hold of that Mesa Rec, it too can potentially lay waste to your single V30. Those things aint no pussy either. The Mesa might even be worse for a single speaker because they naturally have a more robust low end than a Marshall.
 
Greg_L said:
If you get a hold of that Mesa Rec, it too can potentially lay waste to your single V30. Those things aint no pussy either. The Mesa might even be worse for a single speaker because they naturally have a more robust low end than a Marshall.
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yeah .... it just depends on how much you crank it.
I have a SWR head for bass gigs and a nice Ampeg 410HLF bottom but I don't always want to haul it around so I have a Gallien Kruger 2x10 cab that I would often use.

Now the SWR puts out 500 watts into 4 ohms and the GK cab is 4 ohms but only rated to 200 watts :eek: and bass is about the best at killing speakers.
But I used the head thru that cab for gigs for years even though it was grossly over-powered for that cab. ...... I always simply kept the volume down to moderate levels ..... loud enough for gigs but not TOO loud.

One night though, after years of no problems, a band kept asking me to turn up and I suppose I'd gotten complacent after no problem for so long and I did turn it up and ................ silence! :D
Just all of a sudden with no warning noises they were dead.
It was really that simple ...... got a little too loud and that was it.
But had I not cranked it they'd still be working today.

So it's all about how loud you go.
 
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