The New Tone Thread

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I'm working on a thermal levitation device. It should eliminate everything. Even the speaker output....:thumbs up:
 
lol what was his point then? For my 2 cents...modeling amps have never sounded good to me, My dad knew Frank Marino's dad and I talk to Frank...when I can, (he comes to Cleveland alot) You wouldn't catch him using one. Frank mods all his own pedals and amps...he inspired me to do the same.
 
Modeller...humbug. there is no replacement for tube tone than tube tone. Via a good fender or boogie amp. and mic placement can make or break you. i tend to mic 2 channels (1 sm57 close up halfway in mid of cone and a descent studio large diameter condenser "about" 2 feet away) for breathing ambience. of coarse always sample a few bars till you get the mic placement where the tone you need is found. once you record no amount of eq or effects will make the track work other than added noise and compromised tone...what goes in is what comes out. this is my own opinion of coarse...but like anything else if you want the sound of Steve Vai, Eddie van Halen, or even a Roy Clark for that matter...you record steve, eddie or roy in the studio playing the parts. example...a buddy wants my exact guitar rig so he can sound like i sound...but it wont happen since my body, bone structure, and attack styles are unique to me. in other words if you want apple pie use apples not peaches...what goes in is what comes out!!!
 
kevin6string said:
Modeller...humbug. there is no replacement for tube tone than tube tone. Via a good fender or boogie amp. and mic placement can make or break you. i tend to mic 2 channels (1 sm57 close up halfway in mid of cone and a descent studio large diameter condenser "about" 2 feet away) for breathing ambience. of coarse always sample a few bars till you get the mic placement where the tone you need is found. once you record no amount of eq or effects will make the track work other than added noise and compromised tone...what goes in is what comes out. this is my own opinion of coarse...but like anything else if you want the sound of Steve Vai, Eddie van Halen, or even a Roy Clark for that matter...you record steve, eddie or roy in the studio playing the parts. example...a buddy wants my exact guitar rig so he can sound like i sound...but it wont happen since my body, bone structure, and attack styles are unique to me. in other words if you want apple pie use apples not peaches...what goes in is what comes out!!!
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I think I agree with everything here (tubes rule) except the "bone structure" and to be honest.. someone can in fact imitate and exact the same attack ( I'm not saying you're buddy can), go listen to Randy Hansen play Hendrix...I have no problems with people trying to get someones sound... hopefully for a tune from that person or something like that, but not to "clone" someone else's sound (see alot of that:cursing:). My tone is something I have used forever it seems and I like it, very Thin Lizzy sounding (think of Scott Gorham, or Gary Moore) and Wayne Kramer...(MC5). No matter what I have used...I can pull that tone out of most any amp, From my first amp a Gibson Atlas VI tube (6L6's), the 2 Fender Princeton stereo chorus I ran in series, the ART DST-80/80 I stil have, and my current '92 Marshall 1987x reissue (the first reissue with no efx loop) & '80 Marshall JMP 50w. I use this playing live, currently now I am using (from guitar to amp) Klon buffer from fredric effects, fulltone deja vibe 2, fulltone clyde deluxe, fredric effects Demon Fuzz custom modded built by Tim in London (I told him what I wanted and he did it for me), Keeley 4 knob comp, a modded t.c. electronics corona chorus, rocktron short timer, rocktron HUSH super c (for the ART believe it or not)...and a radial a+b+y switcher into the Marshall 1987x and ART DST-80/80. I used to use a Klon Centaur...but the Demon Fuzz is more smooth more transparent and custom built for me lol so of course I love it.
 
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lol what was his point then? For my 2 cents...modeling amps have never sounded good to me, My dad knew Frank Marino's dad and I talk to Frank...when I can, (he comes to Cleveland alot) You wouldn't catch him using one. Frank mods all his own pedals and amps...he inspired me to do the same.
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Thats cause you need volume to clean up that distortion ...and to create vibrations..

They are great for players just starting out tho..like me...I started with pod..and got great tones..but nothing like a 120 watt valve head!
 
Why guitar tone sucks.

I read an article in an old issue of Guitar Player magazine. I'll try to find it for you. It talked about how bad tone has become and why people can't get it anymore. I explained the steps to great tone to some guitar players and they all disagreed. Of course, their tone sucked big time and they spend fifteen minutes every gig trying to set their guitar amps. I'll put it up here when I find it.
 
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