grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
What has happened to the "allergic to digital" thread?
On my feed, it's completely disappeared.
On my feed, it's completely disappeared.
I have one request. And that is for people in the digital camp to refrain from ‘jumping borders’ into the analog forum telling us analog folk how shitty and inferior the analog method of recording is.Because the concept has moved from actual science to aesthetical science - when digital was in it's first throes - and LPs were being transferred to CDs sans any thought - the digital sound was IMO horrible - also when digital recording first started most guys used analog methods - and they didn't mix - so now we have digital recording and transfers and the quality is quite good - and the added convenience of digital with endless tracks and editing is a bonus.
I don't understand the people who want to use Tape - it's a major PIA to maintain, edit and record - and the sound isn't all that.
I don't think that is asking too much!I have one request. And that is for people in the digital camp to refrain from ‘jumping borders’ into the analog forum telling us analog folk how shitty and inferior the analog method of recording is.
I personally use and endorse all forms of recording and have a hybrid set up.
No one that likes to use analog has ever gone into the digital sub forums to poo poo on digital recording (that I’m aware of)
I’m not trying to jump on you personally, your post just seemed appropriate to highlight what I feel is a larger issue.
People that frequent this forum are looking for pertinent information, assistance etc.
No one is here to be convinced this ‘antiquated’ medium is shit.
Please allow us analog farts to have our fun in this small sub forum.
Thank you .![]()
Perhaps you should actually try. Try to understand why different people like doing things and using things that you don't.I don't understand the people who want to use Tape
I agree....but it was the OP that was, in the main, the one doing that.Who has time for pointless conversation involving people trying shape other’s opinions with their own
Because this is a recording forum, it follows that there will be people interested in recording, regardless of the medium. Many people of a certain age passed through one medium before moving to another. For some of those people, the interest died with the move. For others, it didn't.which is hopefully, on this particular sub-forum, discussions and support related to analog audio equipment by people who are interested in such things because of whatever reason, or no reason in particular
I absolutely agree.I have one request. And that is for people in the digital camp to refrain from ‘jumping borders’ into the analog forum telling us analog folk how shitty and inferior the analog method of recording is
And good night.Thank you .![]()
This is one of those things that always gets my goat.It would appear that the recycle dude is gone. Wiped off of the forum, along with all posts and threads
Like a lame TV series in its prime !He’s been cancelled
By the way, I was wasn't trying to stoke any flames. I found the "Allergic to digital" thread a very interesting one, for the most part, with a lot of passion, interesting thoughts and yes, some friction, but hey, we're all adults here.It would appear that the recycle dude is gone. Wiped off of the forum, along with all posts and threads.
I concur, with one caveat. It was more than obvious from the get go that Mr. Recycle was the most recent alias indentity created by a priorly banned HR member.By the way, I was wasn't trying to stoke any flames. I found the "Allergic to digital" thread a very interesting one, for the most part, with a lot of passion, interesting thoughts and yes, some friction, but hey, we're all adults here.
I have one request. And that is for people in the digital camp to refrain from ‘jumping borders’ into the analog forum telling us analog folk how shitty and inferior the analog method of recording is.
I personally use and endorse all forms of recording and have a hybrid set up.
Thank you .![]()
I get what you’re saying. I wasn’t talking about that thread. I’ve been here on and off for maybe 10 years.I don't think the problem was that digital guys were dissing analog. It was the attitude that Recycle presented. Digital is crap. Digital ruins everything. It's evil! Obviously that isn't true, just as saying that tape and analog are crap isn't true. There were some good comments that were presented in that thread. It's a shame that the time and efforts that some of us spent posting there are lost. There have been far worse threads left online.
And, Yes, there have been people on digital threads who claim digital is bad and that analog tape is the only real medium. If there's anything that I have learned in the audio world it is that elitism is rampant. It's almost like religion or politics on steroids! If you can't afford a Neve console and a locker full of Neumann mics, you might as well not even record anything. Chinese gear is crap (even if it's made in Australia). Nobody can make a capsule as good as the Germans. It's like they have magic elves that tension the diaphragms just perfectly! Really?
I was recently reading a thread on another site where a poster said that he would never buy a particular company's gear because he didn't like the name of the company. I wanted to ask if he would buy it if they changed the company name to Acme and put a roadrunner on as a logo. I'm pretty sure he would not have seen the humor or sarcasm intended, so I just moved on.
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I don't think it was harmful at all.the thread, itself, wasn't all that harmful
My story is almost identical, even down to the year ! The only difference was that I went for 12-track capability !!In 2004, I did all of my recording to tape, trying to decide if I should buy a stand alone digital recorder. It was a no brainer to purchase a digital recorder with 16 track capability. I continued recording to tape and began recording digitally and combining both worlds. None the worse for wear!
In retrospect, I think this was, unwittingly probably, a great move on Recycle's part.It was the attitude that Recycle presented. Digital is crap. Digital ruins everything. It's evil!
Some people don't like analogue recording and they should have the freedom to say so and why, without being nastyObviously that isn't true, just as saying that tape and analog are crap isn't true
This really is the number one bugbear of mine. When people give their time, thoughts, energy and reading over a number of weeks into a thread, only to have everything removed, well, that's hardly going to encourage people to get involved in the future, is it ?It's a shame that the time and efforts that some of us spent posting there are lost
Too true.There have been far worse threads left online
This has also been true over the years.And, Yes, there have been people on digital threads who claim digital is bad and that analog tape is the only real medium
Unfortunately also true. But I think that exists in every world one cares to name. It's not always a bad thing if it is handled and presented with care and a desire to share and learn or contrast without denigration.If there's anything that I have learned in the audio world it is that elitism is rampant
I've long felt that it is a major weakness and failure on the part of us as human beings that we can't, no, aren't willing to, discuss religion and politics in a civil manner.It's almost like religion or politics on steroids!
One of the things that I have liked about HR is that there are all kinds of practitioners of recording and audio here, ranging from high-level pros to guerilla recorders.If you can't afford a Neve console and a locker full of Neumann mics, you might as well not even record anything
For me the old-school enthusiasts are no different to the digital practitioners. They're all recorders, facing many of the same challenges and many of their trials, travails and stories are fascinating.It warmed my heart that there were still old school enthusiasts keeping thing’s alive
I've never found anything in music to be without flaws and problems !Despite its flaws and problems, Analog recording has a historic part in the creation of some fine music, and some people love it
Sometimes, when I'm explaining to non-tech friends, the processes of how I record music, I find that my workflow and my explanations have changed very little in the switchover from one to the other. But even just before I left analogue recording, my methods were altering, if ever so slightly. Progress and change are human, not medium-driven.My post that you quoted referred not to the recycle thread, but what I’ve seen over the time I’ve been here. And that’s digital guys trying to shit on the old ways.
Thank you.....and goodnight.It was interesting thread however.
Ironically, that was how some of the first recordings I ever took part in were done, back in '82. And bouncing on a 4-track beyond 2 generations with what was, in effect sound-on-sound, is what pushed me to up to 8-track. Which then some 13 years later spurred my move to digital.I wouldn't use Les Paul's original sound on sound methodology today
It's not. The real underlying deal is the need that human beings seem to exhibit to justify our existence and choices and that often comes in the form of defecatingI don't get why analog vs digital is even a big deal