Stephen Paul Audio (SPA)

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Since Sony, Toft, and several other companies, are shown under "PMI Companies", I would assume these are links to companies that PMI is associated with.

The first listing under that link heading takes you to actual PMI owned companies. The rest of the links take you directly to these companies' website, that are distributed in some way by PMI, which would include the new SPA mics.
 
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acorec said:
http://www.studioprojectsusa.com/links.html

Go to this link. It CLEARLY STATES THAT THE SPA IS A PMI COMPANY NO IF AND OR BUTS ABOUT IT.

Now I suppose you will start to argue that I can't read. I am not starting a bitch fest, but, if you maintain the website, you must have not read what it says. I just thought that PMI now owns Stephen Paul Audio.

Huh? THAT doesn't clearly state ANYTHING! It confuses me more than anything else since it inclues PMI Audio Group under PMI Companies... If I didn't know... But I DO know, that SPA is NOT owned by PMI Audio and only distributed by PMI.
 
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EddieRay said:
Pardon me for being dense but it isn't all that clear to me. I'm at that site (studio projects) now. Where exactly does it state it?

Nevermind. I see that SPA is grouped under the PMI Companies section, implying an association that may or may not exist.
 
Maybe........or maybe not, it should read..................

Companies represented by PMI........ rather than PMI Companies.

I guess it's all in how you want to interpret it, but it really isn't an uncommon terminology.

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According to your logic, acorec, it also states that PMI owns Sony Pro Audio.

That having been said, the links page IS misleading.

Sorry, but your post (and previous defenses of DJL in other threads) smacks of someone trying to stir up some additional shit where plenty already exists. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but why else would you start this thread after it's been explained multiple times that PMI is handling the distribution and marketing only for SPA?

The only person that's been insinuating anything other than that up to this point is DJL. So consider the source before you decide whether or not to join in the fray.
 
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acorec said:
http://www.studioprojectsusa.com/links.html

Go to this link. It CLEARLY STATES THAT THE SPA IS A PMI COMPANY NO IF AND OR BUTS ABOUT IT.

Now I suppose you will start to argue that I can't read. I am not starting a bitch fest, but, if you maintain the website, you must have not read what it says. I just thought that PMI now owns Stephen Paul Audio.

Hate to burst your bubble you are 100% incorrect. Groove-Doctors is also listed and we do not own them we only distribute for them. In fact to be technical none of the companies listed there are owned by PMI Audio. Would it please you more if the wording was changed so as to avoid future confusion?
 
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Justin Hyatt said:
Hate to burst your bubble you are 100% incorrect. Groove-Doctors is also listed and we do not own them we only distribute for them. In fact to be technical none of the companies listed there are owned by PMI Audio. Would it please you more if the wording was changed so as to avoid future confusion?

It would please me, if you care. I think it is very misleading.


And what's this talk about PMI putting companies products in stores? Aren't you guys in So California? Well, so am I, and I can't find your products in any stores around here.

Why don't you start getting your SP mics in the stores around here?

Blessings, Terry
 
"Established in 1995, PMI Audio Group, is a professional audio distribution company located in Torrance, California. PMI Audio Group specializes in the distribution of professional audio products for recording, video, post, film, broadcast, and the fixed installation markets. PMI's current brands of distribution include Studio Projects, Joemeek, Toft Audio Designs, Sony Professional Audio, Stephen Paul Audio, and Groove-Doctors.

PMI Audio Group does it's own service and modifications in house incorporating the latest testing equipment. We stock large quantities of all product models, which ship direct, from our facilities. We advertise monthly in seven publications including, Mix, EQ, Electronic Musician, Pro Audio Review, Pro Sound News, Audio Media, and Recording Magazine.

PMI Audio Group uses independent professional representative firms though out the United States to promote, demonstrate, and sell our products to the professional dealer network. In addition, we have aligned ourselves with distributors in over 72 different countries. We have a direct marketing program that enables us to market direct to the end user, so the customer can be sure of getting the proper information on the product as sometimes dealer sales staff are not informed enough about the product. It has been a successful program when applied properly.

The first product PMI Audio Group introduced to the American market was JOEMEEK in early 1996. JOEMEEK, is a signal processing line specializing in Photo-Optical Audio Compressors, Mic Preamplifiers, EQ's and enhancers. JOEMEEK is focused towards the recording market.

Our company is sought after by many other Manufacturers to bring more product lines for distribution into our market. We are very selective in adding on product lines, and we will only bring to our market top quality selective products.

Recent acquisitions are Studio Projects, Toft Audio Designs, and Groove-Doctors. Studio Projects is a new company that is targeting the Project Studio Market with high quality products at a very attractive price. The Studio Projects C1 cardioid large diaphragm-recording microphone has set the standard in the industry for high quality low cost professional microphones. With a full line of line or professional recording microphones Studio Projects looks to becoming a major contender in the competive microphone market. Recent additions to the Studio Projects line include ground breaking microphone preamplifier design with the VTB-1, and a new budget minded approach to stereo microphones in the form of the LSD-2.

Toft Audio Designs may be a new company to the professional audio industry, but the people behind it are seasoned veterans. Toft Audio Designs is dedicated to providing high quality, well engineered professional audio products at a very competitive price. Malcolm Toft, the designer behind the products has an excellent pedigree as a recording engineer with credits like the Beatles' 'Hey Jude', David Bowie's 'Space Oddity', and James Taylor's first album just to name a few. The first product that will be released by Toft Audio will be the ATC-2. A F.E.T. compressor with 4 band EQ and 2 microphone preamplifiers. The Toft Audio line looks to becoming a well-recognized manufacture of high quality signal processing equipment.

Groove-Doctors is a company focused on producing high quality audio loop production sets. All of the Production Sets are stunningly recorded tracks utilizing Sony's Super BIT Mapping Digital Process recorded using the finest new and vintage equipment. All loops are optimized for superb time compression/expansion results and perfectly edited into 1 BAR 'Grooves' to allow for easy and flexible arranging.

PMI Audio Group is now distributing Sony Pro Audio in California, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico. In addition, PMI Audio is keeping larger stocks of products. We sell only to the local Professional Audio dealers, and contractors."

From PMI's website.
 
Guys, let me clarify something for you since I've worked for a so-called group in the past. Usually, the group name is a trade name such as Kemper Insurance Companies. There never was a Kemper Insurance Companies.

Rather it was actually a company called Lumbermens Mutual Casualty Company and its affiliated property and casualty insurers:

American Manufacturers Mutual Insurance Company
American Motorists Insurance Company
American Protection Insurance Company
Eagle Pacific Insurance Company
Kemper Casualty Insurance Company
Kemper Commercial Insurance Company
Kemper Comprehensive Insurance Company
Kemper Indemnity Insurance Company
Kemper Lloyds Insurance Company
Kemper Surplus Lines Insurance Company
Pacific Eagle Insurance Company
Specialty National Insurance Company
Special Surplus Insurance Company
Universal Bonding Insurance Company

You'll notice that gray word "affiliated." Affiliated might be a wholly owned subsidiary. It might be a company that is distributed by the group owner. It might be a company that possesses some sort of operating agreement with the group owner. Only the two parties know the true extent of their relationship unless one or more of the companies is subject to some sort of public disclosure requirements.

In any event, it's not unusual at all for someone to use a group to conduct business.
 
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still4given said:

And what's this talk about PMI putting companies products in stores? Aren't you guys in So California? Well, so am I, and I can't find your products in any stores around here.

Why don't you start getting your SP mics in the stores around here?

Blessings, Terry

Terry,

I'm not sure where in SOCAL you are, but I'm down here in the Newport/Mesa area and I can find Studio Projects gear at a high end store in Costa Mesa called Mic Works. good guys, very knowledgeable, also you can rent any pre or mic for very little great for A/B'ing.

but then again you could be in the valley (of socal) and this would do you no good......I agree though, there isnt many stores here to actually go test a piece.
 
Please do NOT take this as a PMI flame, because it's not, but the music stores in northern CA don't carry the Studio Projects mics either and most of them have never heard of SP either.
 
DJL said:
Please do NOT take this as a PMI flame, because it's not, but the music stores in northern CA don't carry the Studio Projects mics either and most of them have never heard of SP either.

This is not a flame either. But if these stores have never heard of SP they must never read any of the recording mags like MIX, Homerecording, Tape Op, or Recording, and they must never visit any of the numerous recording or gear review websites, and they must never attend any of the NAMM shows. It just shows a lack of knowledge on their part IMO.
 
tdukex said:
This is not a flame either. But if these stores have never heard of SP they must never read any of the recording mags like MIX, Homerecording, Tape Op, or Recording, and they must never visit any of the numerous recording or gear review websites, and they must never attend any of the NAMM shows. It just shows a lack of knowledge on their part IMO.
Your right and I agree. Oh, and I should have said "none of the music stores in my area (that I know of) carry them" and "many of them have never heard of them".
 
Hell... The tiny music store about 6 miles from me sells em.
 
No one around here (Knoxville, TN) carries them either, at least not the last time I checked. They’re all trying to compete with Guitar Center, but none of them carry MXL, Studio Projects, ADK, and other popular brands that GC doesn’t. Instead they carry AT, Shure, etc… the same stuff! Go figure…
 
H2oskiphil said:
According to your logic, acorec, it also states that PMI owns Sony Pro Audio.

That having been said, the links page IS misleading.

Sorry, but your post (and previous defenses of DJL in other threads) smacks of someone trying to stir up some additional shit where plenty already exists. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but why else would you start this thread after it's been explained multiple times that PMI is handling the distribution and marketing only for SPA?

The only person that's been insinuating anything other than that up to this point is DJL. So consider the source before you decide whether or not to join in the fray.

Actually, I just asked a simple question. I read that the SPA company is a PMI company. If that stirs this much debate then I feel sorry for this group. To PMI I would say that you have to pay attention to how you word stuff. The colored dot crap was another word twisting game. This misleading game is wearing thin. I see 100% what DJL and Chessrock were talking about. You can flame them if you want, but they are right about the misleading statements. I did not consider anyone in posting this other than the website that claims SPA is a PMI company. If they had written "Affiliated with" or something else, I would not have thought twicw about it.
 
This is PMI's "Links" page...............

Pro Audio Magazines

Electronic Musician Magazine
Mix Magazine
EQ Magazine
Pro Audio Review
Home Recording Magazine

Pro Audio Conventions

AES - Audio Engineering Society
NAMM - International Music Products Association

Companies

Toft Audio Designs
Sony Pro Audio Reseller
Studio Projects
Groove Doctors
Stephen Paul

AudioFriends

Rock'n Motion Image Design

And this is what is actually said on PMI's site, (courtesy of Crazydoc)........................."Established in 1995, PMI Audio Group, is a professional audio distribution company located in Torrance, California. PMI Audio Group specializes in the distribution of professional audio products for recording, video, post, film, broadcast, and the fixed installation markets. PMI's current brands of distribution include Studio Projects, Joemeek, Toft Audio Designs, Sony Professional Audio, Stephen Paul Audio, and Groove-Doctors."

I don't think it could be any clearer than that.





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tdukex said:
This is not a flame either. But if these stores have never heard of SP they must never read any of the recording mags like MIX, Homerecording, Tape Op, or Recording, and they must never visit any of the numerous recording or gear review websites, and they must never attend any of the NAMM shows. It just shows a lack of knowledge on their part IMO.

My point is not whether or not the stores have heard of them. My point is that if PMI is responsible for getting these products into stores than, at least in my area, they are doing a poor job of it. I'm not talking about high end audio stores or speciality stores. I'm talking about music stores. Studio Projects "mainly" puts out budget mics. Not really the thing folks would go looking for in a High end shop. Definately something folks would look for in a music store though. IMHO

My area, by the way, is fairly large. I live in the high desert, Victorville to be exact, but work in Santa Monica, so I drive 100 miles each way to work. There are a lot of stores alone my drive.
I really like my B1 and recommend them all the time, but folks can't see them is stores or more importantly "hear" them. I'd like to check out a VTB1 as well but can't find one of those either.

Anyway, I like to see more PMI products in the music stores I frequent.

Blessings, Terry
 
neumann owns apple computers!! along with all of these other companies.

Akai USA
AMS Neve
Analog Devices
Apogee
ART
Dolby
Euphonix
HDCD/Pacific Microsonics
Level Control Systems
Lexicon
Network Production Music
Real Audio
Sennheiser
Siemens
Solid State Logic
Sonic Solutions
Spatializer Audio Labs
t.c. electronic

Don't believe me?? see for yourself

http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/links.asp
 
sk8ingsnowman said:
neumann owns apple computers!! along with all of these other companies.

Akai USA
AMS Neve
Analog Devices
Apogee
ART
Dolby
Euphonix
HDCD/Pacific Microsonics
Level Control Systems
Lexicon
Network Production Music
Real Audio
Sennheiser
Siemens
Solid State Logic
Sonic Solutions
Spatializer Audio Labs
t.c. electronic

Don't believe me?? see for yourself

http://www.neumannusa.com/pages/links.asp

Excuse me, but where on that page does it say that those are "Neumann Companies"? I only see "links"

Blessings, Terry
 
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