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omtayslick
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Harvey Gerst said:
Well Harvey,
No one can ever say you're not a democratic, fair minded individual.
Well Harvey,
No one can ever say you're not a democratic, fair minded individual.
noisedude
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Don't do it ... don't do it ... things are going smoothly ... bite it!alanhyatt said:Here comes the new DJL......
krs...three letters. what a coincidence
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krs
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Ah yes for things just to go smoothly, isn't that what we all want...
Let's examine the sizzle on the B1. Why is it there? Is this color a GOOD color? How versatile is this sizzle?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Let's examine the sizzle on the B1. Why is it there? Is this color a GOOD color? How versatile is this sizzle?
Enquiring minds want to know.
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
krs said:Ah yes for things just to go smoothly, isn't that what we all want...
Let's examine the sizzle on the B1. Why is it there? Is this color a GOOD color? How versatile is this sizzle?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Good for some applications, and not for others. Every mic will act differently so what one may hear in one room, another may not hear it in their room.
Definately less energy on the B1 at 12K than the C Series, so not as much top end on the B1. The capsule is 3mu rather than 6mu as the C Series is.
Again, different strokes for different folks....
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slobbermonster
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sizzle? I'm not sure i would use that polite a term for it
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nkjanssen
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slobbermonster said:
Hope you've got your flame-proof suit on.
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tryptophan
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if you take away the posts in this thread by people who are demonstratably biased (dot, noisedude, alan) and then take away the posts in this thread by people who seem to bash for no reason, (nkjanssen, slobbermonster, krs)......
you end up with some people likiing the B1 and some people disliking it.
you end up with some people likiing the B1 and some people disliking it.
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chessrock
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tryptophan said:
... which is still pretty much what you get, even if you don't remove the biased ones.
noisedude
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I can live with that. Although what qualifies me to be 'demonstrably biased' is baffling, even more so what qualifies Dan Richards for the same status.
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nkjanssen
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noisedude said:
Or what qualifies anything I said as "bashing" anyone or anything.
kid klash
The original Mr. Nice Guy
Hey there -
As if it actually matters, I like my SP B1... actually, I like both of my SP B1's. I also like my SP B3. Why? Because they sound great on lots of things. If there's anyone out there that owns either mic and doesn't like the way it/they sound, take the time to play around with the positioning. Also, consider the acoustic environment you're using it in too, as well as the instrument you're mic'ing. The preamps matter too. Hell - even how humid your environment happens to be the day you record matters, as well as whether or not you've been drinking... it all effects our ability to perceive sound. But hey - you all know this so I'll move on. Have a nice day.
As if it actually matters, I like my SP B1... actually, I like both of my SP B1's. I also like my SP B3. Why? Because they sound great on lots of things. If there's anyone out there that owns either mic and doesn't like the way it/they sound, take the time to play around with the positioning. Also, consider the acoustic environment you're using it in too, as well as the instrument you're mic'ing. The preamps matter too. Hell - even how humid your environment happens to be the day you record matters, as well as whether or not you've been drinking... it all effects our ability to perceive sound. But hey - you all know this so I'll move on. Have a nice day.
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krs
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noisedude said:
Aren't you a moderator on the PMI forums? That would kind of qualify you.
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Harvey Gerst
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So am I, but I don't own (or have) any Studio Projects microphones. I was invited to be a moderator by Alan, with the understanding that I could say anything I wanted to say about any product - from anywhere. We do not have any "Quid Pro Quo" deals going, period.krs said:
I agreed to do it because I like and respect Alan. We don't always agree on everything, but I respect him a great deal.
noisedude
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Erm ... when you can name me a piece of free gear I've got out of that you can have your point. I only moderate a non gear-related beginners section.krs said:
But either way - how is that 'demonstrably' biased? Can someone evidence my 'bias', and show that said bias is a result of my being a moderator on that forum? Cos if not ... I think it's pretty much a redundant point.
My opinions are my own - I'm just a relative beginner, an enthusiast and hobbyist. Nothing more.
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Han
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noisedude said:Erm ... when you can name me a piece of free gear I've got out of that you can have your point. I only moderate a non gear-related beginners section.
But either way - how is that 'demonstrably' biased? Can someone evidence my 'bias', and show that said bias is a result of my being a moderator on that forum? Cos if not ... I think it's pretty much a redundant point.
My opinions are my own - I'm just a relative beginner, an enthusiast and hobbyist. Nothing more.
Chill Nik, chill.
I want my T3 now!
(just joking)
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chessrock
Banned
Here's how it works around here ...
If you say you don't like a microphone, you're sort of automatically labeled a "basher" by some people on the forum. For whatever reason.
But only if it's a particular brand. Which is interesting. I mean you can bash Behringer all day, and people might call you a gear snob, but no one's going to accuse you of having a vendetta. You can also diss the AKG C-1000 to your heart's content, and most people will agree, as it tends to be a fairly unpopular mic around these parts. But still, not many people will accuse you of having it out for AKG.
So what, in effect, winds up happening is sort of a self-fullfilling prophecy. Guys like myself begin to resent the fact that we're being labeled. We resent the fact that we can't state an honest opinion without repurcussion. The effect of this is that we actually do develop a bias. But not the kind of bias that you think. And let me repeat this for good measure: It's not the kind of bias that you might think. And it's not based nearly as much on the product as it is the fact that we don't like our opinions being discounted or discredited.
I imagine it's probably the same thing on the other side of the fence. Noisedude, Dot, etc. probably get sick of being labeled SP slappies. I honestly don't know where this ends, it's just such a spiral at this point. We just have to understand that nothing is going to be universally loved or hated. Not even everyone likes the RNC, for example -- which is something I can't exactly relate to, but I value hearing those opinions, nonetheless.
And as much as a manufacturer has to gain or lose from all of this, I think it's just best to let these things run their course. Just keep making good microphones and the cream will eventually rise to the top. There will always be DJL's. Before DJL, it was me, and before me it was Gidge, and before Gidge it was C7sus. There will always be those who value keeping a discussion group honest, and there will always some who don't like your product. The best way to deal with these people is to ask them questions as to what they don't like about your product. Here's an even better thought: How about you ask them how you can make your product better?
Mr. Poopypants: "I hate mic XYZ ! ! It's crap! "
Mr. XYZ, Incorporated: "Thank you for feedback, Mr. Poopypants. What do you feel we could do to improve on future versions of the XYZ?"
If you say you don't like a microphone, you're sort of automatically labeled a "basher" by some people on the forum. For whatever reason.
But only if it's a particular brand. Which is interesting. I mean you can bash Behringer all day, and people might call you a gear snob, but no one's going to accuse you of having a vendetta. You can also diss the AKG C-1000 to your heart's content, and most people will agree, as it tends to be a fairly unpopular mic around these parts. But still, not many people will accuse you of having it out for AKG.
So what, in effect, winds up happening is sort of a self-fullfilling prophecy. Guys like myself begin to resent the fact that we're being labeled. We resent the fact that we can't state an honest opinion without repurcussion. The effect of this is that we actually do develop a bias. But not the kind of bias that you think. And let me repeat this for good measure: It's not the kind of bias that you might think. And it's not based nearly as much on the product as it is the fact that we don't like our opinions being discounted or discredited.
I imagine it's probably the same thing on the other side of the fence. Noisedude, Dot, etc. probably get sick of being labeled SP slappies.
I honestly don't know where this ends, it's just such a spiral at this point. We just have to understand that nothing is going to be universally loved or hated. Not even everyone likes the RNC, for example -- which is something I can't exactly relate to, but I value hearing those opinions, nonetheless.And as much as a manufacturer has to gain or lose from all of this, I think it's just best to let these things run their course. Just keep making good microphones and the cream will eventually rise to the top. There will always be DJL's. Before DJL, it was me, and before me it was Gidge, and before Gidge it was C7sus. There will always be those who value keeping a discussion group honest, and there will always some who don't like your product. The best way to deal with these people is to ask them questions as to what they don't like about your product. Here's an even better thought: How about you ask them how you can make your product better?
Mr. Poopypants: "I hate mic XYZ ! ! It's crap! "
Mr. XYZ, Incorporated: "Thank you for feedback, Mr. Poopypants. What do you feel we could do to improve on future versions of the XYZ?"
noisedude
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It's so hard to judge tone - I'm really chilled. I don't mind! It's just that if there was free gear to be had from this, believe me, I'm from Yorkshire and we know how to keep our wallets under lock and key here. "Tighter than a Jewish duck's arse" is a phrase I've heard.Han said:Chill Nik, chill.
I want my T3 now!
I know what side my bread is buttered on, but no matter how many times it gets buttered, I don't see any free mics on it.
noisedude
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Chess - at least clowns like you and Gidge are real people! It's so infuriating arguing with someone's initials.
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Han
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Nik you're an okay dude, I can buy as many T3's as I wish, don't need any gifts.
@Chessrock, a really great post, although I do like the B1, it's far from perfect.
@Chessrock, a really great post, although I do like the B1, it's far from perfect.
junplugged
Taking the slow road
any diff. in the b1 v. b3 in card. mode? I'm thinking not.
sizzle? I hear sizzle when I have a strong signal going into my berry tube ultra-q w/ the tube dials on max. I haven't used it for anything, not sure if I ever will, but that was sizzle AFAIC.
sizzle? I hear sizzle when I have a strong signal going into my berry tube ultra-q w/ the tube dials on max. I haven't used it for anything, not sure if I ever will, but that was sizzle AFAIC.
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