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sibleypeck
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Have any among you ever placed a song with an artist, had it recorded, published, and promoted, and earned money from it?
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philboyd studge
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Yes
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mikeh
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Good response philboyd - direct and to the point.
I too can reply - yes.
I too can reply - yes.
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TTryon
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Yepper, I have and do that, but I have never placed a song on mp3.com nor accepted a 'taxi' ride with a stranger 
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philboyd studge
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sibleypeck
It may look like everybody's trying to be trite with you here but the point is that it ain't easy. With connections, luck, and good material you may occasionally get something picked up and recorded. Then those big $25 royalty checks start pouring in. But who knows, if you write a hit everything changes.
It may look like everybody's trying to be trite with you here but the point is that it ain't easy. With connections, luck, and good material you may occasionally get something picked up and recorded. Then those big $25 royalty checks start pouring in. But who knows, if you write a hit everything changes.
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sibleypeck
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Thank you all. The reason I ask is, I know nothing about that side of it, but I have written a song that I think is very good. I have been learning Pro Audio and have put together a reasonably good demo of the song, but don't know where to go from here.
I recently installed a CD burner and am learning how to mix something that sounds good on a variety of systems. After I figure that out, if I don't try to promote the song, it's been fun but what's the point? I want to be successful and happy - working at the post office for the rest of my life just won't do.
I recently installed a CD burner and am learning how to mix something that sounds good on a variety of systems. After I figure that out, if I don't try to promote the song, it's been fun but what's the point? I want to be successful and happy - working at the post office for the rest of my life just won't do.
philboyd studge
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Well you've taken the first step, and it's the hardest, you've written a song and you're willing to go through the process that follows as far as putting it all together goes. How about posting somewhere once it's recorded so you can get some feedback?
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sibleypeck
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Good idea!
I'd love to do that, and probably will. I probably wouldn't have said that before I found this forum.
One problem though - I don't know how to post it.
I'm guessing that Pro Audio will let me convert to, or store it as, an mp3 file. But I haven't a clue from there. I haven't really thought about it until now. How does one get an .mp3 file from the desktop to the Forum?
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I'd love to do that, and probably will. I probably wouldn't have said that before I found this forum.
One problem though - I don't know how to post it.
I'm guessing that Pro Audio will let me convert to, or store it as, an mp3 file. But I haven't a clue from there. I haven't really thought about it until now. How does one get an .mp3 file from the desktop to the Forum?
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gec
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Hey Sib,
You have an attitude that will help you succeed, and I agree with studge on posting it for feedback.......remeber though once you do that you must be willing to accept the responses that come back, you make love the song, but thats not whats important if you want to make money. You need to have everyone else love the song. When you have the final mix after all adjustments have been made thats when you go out and promote it aggressively.
BTW - if this the only song you have thats strong keep writing, Record labels don't look for 1 hit wonders they often want to hear a few songs
You have an attitude that will help you succeed, and I agree with studge on posting it for feedback.......remeber though once you do that you must be willing to accept the responses that come back, you make love the song, but thats not whats important if you want to make money. You need to have everyone else love the song. When you have the final mix after all adjustments have been made thats when you go out and promote it aggressively.
BTW - if this the only song you have thats strong keep writing, Record labels don't look for 1 hit wonders they often want to hear a few songs
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mikeh
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The single most important thing you need to "getting placed" is determination!!!
Certainly the song must be good - but selling is all about accepting rejection and keeping at it until you find the right buyer. Never give up and never let the no's stop you from getting a yes.
Obviously finding the right contacts (artists, artist management, entertainment lawyers, etc) takes time, but it can be done. Like philboyd indicated, the royalty checks are not likely to be in the 6 figure range (or even in the 5 or 4 figure range) but if you generate enough body of work even the little checks can add up enough to at least buy a decent piece of gear (or maybe a pizza).
Certainly the song must be good - but selling is all about accepting rejection and keeping at it until you find the right buyer. Never give up and never let the no's stop you from getting a yes.
Obviously finding the right contacts (artists, artist management, entertainment lawyers, etc) takes time, but it can be done. Like philboyd indicated, the royalty checks are not likely to be in the 6 figure range (or even in the 5 or 4 figure range) but if you generate enough body of work even the little checks can add up enough to at least buy a decent piece of gear (or maybe a pizza).
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sibleypeck
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Hey gec,
A special thanks to you. You have no idea how good it felt to read your comments about attitude. What a nice thing to say. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
People, I agree - I need to post this song. But I need to work out a few problems first. I'm having trouble getting a good-sounding mix. The elements are all there, but they're buried under enormous amounts of excess. I need to clean it up and put things in proper places.
Will someone please tell me what format I need to 'save as', in order to post on this Forum?
And, once the file is sitting on my desktop, how to I get it to the Forum?
rick
A special thanks to you. You have no idea how good it felt to read your comments about attitude. What a nice thing to say. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
People, I agree - I need to post this song. But I need to work out a few problems first. I'm having trouble getting a good-sounding mix. The elements are all there, but they're buried under enormous amounts of excess. I need to clean it up and put things in proper places.
Will someone please tell me what format I need to 'save as', in order to post on this Forum?
And, once the file is sitting on my desktop, how to I get it to the Forum?
rick
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TIGERSHARK
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similar to my other post in the publicity section
(i don't seem to be getting any feedback from my other post...maybe in here.)
once you have the contact(s) then what do you include when sending a disc to them? does anyone have any feedback as to what else to send? (ie. lyric sheet, my contact info, photos, etc.) is there anything else that i'm missing? are there certain things that i should avoid saying? thanks!
(i don't seem to be getting any feedback from my other post...maybe in here.
)once you have the contact(s) then what do you include when sending a disc to them? does anyone have any feedback as to what else to send? (ie. lyric sheet, my contact info, photos, etc.) is there anything else that i'm missing? are there certain things that i should avoid saying? thanks!
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JuliusIrvingJr.
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dont forget a small bio.
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mikeh
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It depends on what you want. If you are trying to get an artist deal, then pictures, press releases, newpaper articles, etc. are all needed to "prove" that you have both an "image" and are "creating a buzz" (damn I love hip industry talk!!!!). Also if you have a current CD that you have sold (from stage, from a web site, etc.) provide sales numbers. Naturally you also need to provide contact information, such as your management representation (you do have representation, don't you????)
If on the other hand you are trying to get published as a writer you need to send maybe 3 of you best songs (make sure your absolute best is first, you'll be lucky to get past the first half of the first cut). Obviously you need to put your contact info and copyright info on everything (CD, CD case, letterhead, etc. etc.) You don't really need pictures or a marketing bio, but a short bio of your writting experiance won't hurt. Make sure, the publisher deals with the style of music you are presenting - and don't try to show how many "styles" you can write in - stick with one style for a given publisher. Once your foot is in the door you can show what else you can do.
Now if you are sending a song to a specific artist (via a manager, attorney, hair stylist, etc) then the song needs to be specifically geared for that artist. Again include contact info on everything.
If you are looking for a publishing deal, make sure the vocals are way up front and make sure the singer is the best you can afford. Again, if you are presenting to a specific artist, make sure the singer reflects that. Publishing/writer deals aren't about production - they are all about the song. Obviously if you are looking for an artist deal then production and performance are important.
If on the other hand you are trying to get published as a writer you need to send maybe 3 of you best songs (make sure your absolute best is first, you'll be lucky to get past the first half of the first cut). Obviously you need to put your contact info and copyright info on everything (CD, CD case, letterhead, etc. etc.) You don't really need pictures or a marketing bio, but a short bio of your writting experiance won't hurt. Make sure, the publisher deals with the style of music you are presenting - and don't try to show how many "styles" you can write in - stick with one style for a given publisher. Once your foot is in the door you can show what else you can do.
Now if you are sending a song to a specific artist (via a manager, attorney, hair stylist, etc) then the song needs to be specifically geared for that artist. Again include contact info on everything.
If you are looking for a publishing deal, make sure the vocals are way up front and make sure the singer is the best you can afford. Again, if you are presenting to a specific artist, make sure the singer reflects that. Publishing/writer deals aren't about production - they are all about the song. Obviously if you are looking for an artist deal then production and performance are important.