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RAMI
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Meh, 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot. 
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RAMI
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TeyshaBlue
It's the smell..
Meh, 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
4 out of 5 doctors agree...the 5th one is a complete tool.
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
Except the part about the slide whistle.Meh, 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Nah, that's just HIM f*cking around with us. That and the platypus. You know the old saying, all work and no play...Isn't that a contradiction right there????
And the sixth one is up in the bell tower with a high-powered rifle, finally fed up with always being left out.TeyshaBlue said:
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RAMI
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Yeah, I bet he gets a good laugh over the whole "women peak at 30, and men peak at 18" thing, too. He's a reeeeaaaaal joker.
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stupidfatnugly
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thank you everyone especially my pal Ramii love you man
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RAMI
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i love you man
I love you too, Stupid. Or are we not on a first name basis yet???
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stupidfatnugly
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you can call me Stu
what are you doing friday night?
XOXOXOXOX
what are you doing friday night?
XOXOXOXOX
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RAMI
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Um....I'll let you DECIDE...
You're cool with me, Stu. Rock on.
You're cool with me, Stu. Rock on.
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jeremyball
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Hey Stu,
Here are two techniques I used recently when using sampled horns:
1. The more realistic you can make them sound, the better, right? What I do is tune each horn off just a bit... say 5 to 10 cents one way or the other. It made a noticable difference to me. Why? Well, a true horn section isn't gonna be 100% to the cent perfectly on key. It sounded less like a "robotic" horn section, and a little more human.
2. I also use volume automation. Right after the transient of the horn track begins, I will quickly lower the volume and raise it gradually. You can hear the attack, the decay with the volume drop, and raise the volume back.
It might at least give them a more natural sound. Let me know if you try it and how it works.
Here are two techniques I used recently when using sampled horns:
1. The more realistic you can make them sound, the better, right? What I do is tune each horn off just a bit... say 5 to 10 cents one way or the other. It made a noticable difference to me. Why? Well, a true horn section isn't gonna be 100% to the cent perfectly on key. It sounded less like a "robotic" horn section, and a little more human.
2. I also use volume automation. Right after the transient of the horn track begins, I will quickly lower the volume and raise it gradually. You can hear the attack, the decay with the volume drop, and raise the volume back.
It might at least give them a more natural sound. Let me know if you try it and how it works.
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Marcadiablo
Still a newbie
I would love to hear a sample of that. Can you put out something?
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jeremyball
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I would be glad to. Send me a private message with your email, and I'll cut a snippet of the song and email it to you.
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stupidfatnugly
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that's a good trick. I'm trying to figure out how you do that in REASON
Todzilla
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Generally, of course real horns rule. But for those of us without easily available high-end cats, sampled horns can be pretty good.
A lot of it is how you play the part.
Here's a sample of sampled horns I played:
The samples are right off an old Roland U-220, a mediocre ROMpler from the late 80s. Still, I'm pretty proud at how they sound.
A lot of it is how you play the part.
Here's a sample of sampled horns I played:
The samples are right off an old Roland U-220, a mediocre ROMpler from the late 80s. Still, I'm pretty proud at how they sound.
Lumpy
Currently Naked
Relax. You asked for opinions. You got one that to me,
is very honest and appropriate.
I suggest the trouble with the sort of question you ask is that
you're asking for some kind of quantitative answer
to a question of artistic/personal taste.
Nobody here or anywhere else can tell you if sampled
horns will sound good TO YOU. It's like asking, "do
you think Bob Dylan has a great singing voice".
Perhaps a more logical form of question might have
been something like -
"I'm using sampled horns but having trouble knowing
how to apply natural sounding portamento to
the trombone parts"
And we haven't even begun to touch on the VERY
real aspect of what kind of midi module you use
for the samplings.
There have surely been tons of recordings made
with sampled instruments of all kinds, and we
probably never had a clue. I would guess, that
in your situation, the key would be first defining
how you want the horns to sound. Do you want
people to listen and say "Man, I'm sure that's
Miles and Kenton playing on that track"? If so,
I'd devote a freakin lot of time to the subtle
phrasing, breath sounds etc. If, on the other
hand, you're using the horns in a sort of
Tower of Power/Traffic manner, that would
probably require a very different approach.
But if you're going to ask someone to give
their musical/artistic taste opinion, you're
asking for an eBattle. It's not a personal
attack. It's art.
Lumpy
Oooh!
http://digitalcartography.com/jazz/
Lumpy
Currently Naked
I play bagpipes. That pretty much trumps any
self perceived suckage on any other instrument.
When I start feeling sucky about the pipes,
I revert back to accordian.
Lumpy
You Played on Lawrence Welk?
Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.
www.LumpyMusic.com
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stupidfatnugly
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Lumpy
Currently Naked
TZ! I really like that piece. Both from the artistic
and the tech viewpoint.
Nice job!
Lumpy
You Played on Lawrence Welk?
Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.
www.LumpyMusic.com
Todzilla
New member
Thanks dudes!
I think the key (pun intended) to sampled horns is in the playing style. I'm not a horn player, but I kept listening to them as I played and trying to imagine a horn player, rather than do the typical keyboard players' shtick of playing block chords, wondering why they don't sound like a horn section.
And just to reiterate, those were done on a punkass, 80s piece of crap Roland ROMpler (although I believe Roland gear to be pretty awesome regardless). You can buy 'em on eBay for less than a hundred bucks.
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stupidfatnugly
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I did it and I think it sounds pretty good.
please have a listen and tell me what you think of the horns
http://myspace.com/stupidfatandugly
song: "care"
just listen to the first minute or so of the song.
the rest still needs alot of work
please have a listen and tell me what you think of the horns
http://myspace.com/stupidfatandugly
song: "care"
just listen to the first minute or so of the song.
the rest still needs alot of work
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