Roland vs2400cd help!! Please!

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Ive been training myself for almost 4 solid years and only still have just the basics... Im not quite sure about what tracks to bounce when to use certin mastering tools and how. using the aux effects and understanding more about regional controls.. I know a lil bit about compression. but im not sure exactly when and where to use the expander,in the phrase e.q.
also are there autotuning capabilities on the 2400cd? what are the best ways/programs to export Midi to a computer or would i be better off just mastering the technique on the roland. I know there is some type of drum machine.. but im unsure how to program or even find it.. Ive tried reading the books but theyre realy above my terminology and it just confuses the hell out of me sometimes. Ive also achieved once but dont know how i did it. but how do i mix a cd so that it doesnt skip seconds between tracks on my "Master" copy?
if anyone knows anything that im in need of schooling. please talk to me and leave me soem tips.
most likely i'll print out the instructions /tips giving and work with them as i go..
thanx very much hope everyone hs a great day
Sincerely,
Sweets
 
Hi Sweets,

I use a 2480 but I should be able to address a lot of your concerns...

Also, it would help to know if you have a VS8F-2 or VS8F-3 card installed?

Use of any of the Mastering tools will be dictated by your ears... If the song sounds good, there's really no need to play with it... Fight the urge to use things just cause you got em ;)

Track bouncing - There's plenty of times you would want to do this, but never really 'need' to... For example, if you recorded a dry vocal on track 1 and then used your built-in effects channel to add a slight echo to it, but then wanted to free up your effect channel to add reverb to a snare track, you would bounce track 1 (with effects) to another track... This then gives you the dry track and a 'wet' track (echo) of vox and allows you to switch the effects processor over to reverb use it where you want it.

Expander - Essentially it exaggerates the loudest and softest parts of your track... I use it as a gate to help filter out some bleed on my drum tracks...

No AutoTune capabilities come stock... You would need a VS8F-3 card installed and the AutoTune PlugIn (I love mine)

Not really sure I understand the Midi export question... Midi is just a series of instructions sent to a device that can translate them... If you're wanting your 2400 to act as a Master MTC you will find that in the Utilities menu... If you're wanting Midi music recorded to your 2400 from your computer, you need to send it to your Midi sound module first (may or may not be your sound card) and then out to your 2400 either via the analog ports or Digital SPDIF if your sound module supports this.

Drum machine? Hmmm... I'm not aware of any but I'm a drummer so I would never dig it up if it exists... I think you can program the metronome to utilize midi drum sounds, but not sure if there's an actual drum machine onboard.

Not really sure if I understand your mastering question... If you are importing projects into a master and setting up track markers, you need to set the desired space between songs and set your markers accordingly...

Also, if you haven't been there yet, go to http://www.vsplanet.com - Lotta real knowledgable folks there and plenty of helpful tips

Hope this helps somewhat

:)
 
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I have the 2000CD. Yes there are built in rhythms. You chain them together to create the drum track you want. They are OK, but will always sound canned.

You can export your tracks to a computer by using the USB port and the VS track to Wav file converter. Midi is not the tracks you have recorded.

I find it much easier to transfer the tracks to my computer for mixing and mastering. Basically I just use the 2000CD as a portable recording unit.
 
THis site kicks ass-thanx jeremy

ok thanx much for everyones responce.. Bent Rabbit. Thanx much for clearing up a few things first of all. SOmetimes i get confused. Now when using the expander to clear up some things .. the channel will only allow compression / or expander. idk how to work them both at the same time if there is a way.
its a switch button from compress to expander so idk that they work at the same time if theyr eboth on or not. Youre right , i used the wrong word .. not drum machine but metronome. I know how to set different tempos at different measures .. but there are ways to program certin changes in the 4/4 drum line to make it more intricute to the music I'm recording. I'm just not quite sure how.

I understand what u mean with the mastering tools I do have the VSF8 expancion board. I think it was 2 unless 2 comes with the board then its the VSF8-3 that I put in.

I understand the vocal bouncing for that matter. but say i have 8 drum tracks and 4 guitar tracks(main and dub).
would it be best to bounce the guitarrs to 2 sterio tracks or leave them be
same questions for the drums.

autotune plugin? is this an outboard roland product, or do u mean a PC based auto tune Plugin?

the mastering techinque I was refering to was simply how do I place the cd markers/"Stay here","2 sec"...etc.. to make the cd so that it doenst stop and count 2 second before everysong.... How do I make the cd Simply Play all the way through from front to finish?

again. Thanx very much for your help everyone.
have a great day
Sweets
 
To help on some questions. Auto Tune is a plugin you have to by from Roland to load on the VS8F-3 Card. You have to buy this card and install it to be able to use the plugins. The VS8F-2 is the card that comes in the unit already. You can buy either card. Check and see which card you installed.
I think you are asking about tempo mapping. I don't use the on board metronome for complex tempos. I use an external drum machine. As far as bouncing I never needed to bounce with the 2400. Are you running out of tracks?
 
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