Reason Guru Now In The House!!!

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Nah bro I can never take offense at someone not liking my stuff. Today I may be on some "Bling-Bling" Jay-Z style track, next I may do a power ballad!! LOL! I am a student of music. I've been in the game long enuff to see Hip Hop turn to rap. I was a rapper wayyy back on Del Tha Funkee Homosapiens "I Wish My Brother George Was Here". (Yeah I did tracks for that CD too. I'm ANCIENT!)So I've seen music evolve and most importantly evolved with it! Not saying that you haven't or anything, I guess whats troubles me most is that you "have ceased to care" as you put it. I think its important to be open to all forms of music and when you make statements like: "i listen for what i like. if i dont like it, theres no need for me to listen to it.
that wouldnt make any sense. i dont give a shit whether its a hit or not.
the emcees i listen 95% of the country probably dosnt even know they exist." Of course it makes sense!! The type of music you listen to now wasn't piped into your moms womb!! You had to listen to something else in order to FORM AN OPINION! Think about it for a minute. If you only listen to songs you like, I'm not talking about driving in your car, I'm talking about when you are vibing and being creative, If you only listen to stuff you honestly like, then what you must turn out music that only sounds like stuff you'd like. How many people like only what you like? The point is, like it or don't like it. Its up to you, but do yourself a favor and NEVER shut the door on new musical ideas and tastes that aren't always your own. If not, I can promise you, by the time you get to be my age, YOUR music will not be relevant to anyone else, and that wouldn't make any sense!!! I don't mean to get on a soap box. I can promise that you'll never be an A&R with that attitude big homie! You need to open it up a bit.

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I mean music takes some sort of evolvement every couple of years (a major evolvement about every 5 years). I mean think about how rap was in the 80's and then look at it now. After you do that, take note of all of the things that progressed it to that level.

Like I said, if you're doing music for your own benefit and enjoyment, than it's okay to be picky about what you listen to (but you can miss out on new things that might broaden up your ideas a little bit), but if you're in to sell, than I'd advise to try to hit as many audiences as possible.

I listen to a little bit of everything so that I can understand how different genres get the sounds they have as well as research different techniques for recording and stuff related to it. I've been known to make beats that blend in with different genres and add a hip-hop twist to it and they usually do pretty well.
 
Fieva and BigRush....

i understand what yout saying. but your assuming i have a salective taste.
that i have a core of musicians i listen to and dont branch out.
thats not the case.
outside of the emcees i listen to, i also like and listen to....
the smashing pumpkins
the postal service
matt good
coldplay
i bump the "garden state" soundtrack.
etc etc.. (its a long list)
i listen to a lot of different music from a lot of different genras.

but take for instance, country music...
i have heard it. and i dont like it. therfore, i dont listen to it.
why would i listen to something i dont enjoy?

i love music. its been a passion of mine since middle school.
but, the day it stops being fun to make, is the day i stop making it.
also, i would never want to be an A&R man. i would never want to be famous, etc.
the ideal situation for me, would be able to self sustain of music.
i dont plan to make a good living off it.
i'll just make music in my freetime after work.
 
I think I'm a little more limited to what I listen to for my personal enjoyment than you. I don't want to be an A&R man either, but when I listen to the other genres of music that I don't normally listen to, the music is actually the last thing I hear believe it or not LOL. I find myself critiquing (spell check) a lot of music be it underground or mainstream. I tend to find fuck ups across the board but shit happens LOL. I will admit that listening to country and electronica gave me some new ideas for hip-hop rap beats. If you get a minute listen to "Legends Fall", "Nightlife", or "Hyperspace Boogie" on my site. All of those came from different influences.

Fieva
 
This part of the forum is stacked with people disuised as beatmakers/producers...but still it's lacking musicians...anyone offended? Good!

These days a "producer" is about a dime a dozen, and that's pretty understanding concidering the fact that everybody can produce at home. Lacing a track doesn't make you a producer, program/make a beat doesn't make you a producer. Being a musician doesn't make you a producer, but you will have to be a musician to be a producer. I get mildly annoyed, but twice as amused by freshies that live in their own little world. They tend to think that they're all that, and that they don't need other influences to tickle their imagination to further their spectrum of musical knowledge.
That's just a load of shit. I produce a range of different genres of music, and everyone of them makes me a better musician/producer. You learn as you go, and try different things, crossover genres as stuff like that. Inspiration would probably be the number one word here. If you're not accepting other forms of music then you might as well just pack up your shit and chuck it out the window (and into my window hehe).

I went to a norwegian hip hop forum a couple of months ago and they had created a thread to post other types of music, not just beats. The lead post went like this: Here you can post music from your other projects that might not be relevant to hip hop. (Statements like: "Trance is for loosers" will get you banned)

Thinking about the childish statements previously posted on that forum I was shocked to see that they actually accept other genres there. Specially something like trance, cause the majority of the users weren't really supporting that kind of music. More like hated it...(hence the warning in the lead post)
To me that was suprising, but it also make me think that there were ACTUALY musicians on that forum.

If you despise music of other genres and you call yourself a musician/producer then please leave that titel at the door. I use that as a formula when it comes to taking other people seriussly. You might be one hell of a beatmaker but if you don't know your country from your gabba you're bound to crash and burn in the end.
Therefor...the reactions in this thread to the somewhat limited taste in music isn't meant in a negative way...it's more like a: "Ha ha, I know where you're going to end, and I'm trying to tell you about it in the only way that will get thru to you."

-Nito

(Excuse my typos, I'm sure there are some)
 
To think that every form of music had some roots based from its predecessors before it makes it hard to flat out hate a whole genre. I can see the good points and the bad points in all genres (even ones that I mainly listen to). Everybody who listens to different genres probably has their own good points/bad points concerning each.

I think in this forum (just my observation), the majority of people in it don't listen to hip-hop or rap. Some absolutely hate it. Just like some people hate other genres like trance, classical, and country and refuse to listen to it. I've noticed a lot of blending going on in current music. I think that's a good thing since it opens people up to different types of music.

Me personally, I've been known to take influences in everything from classical to techno to country to blues for my ideas.
 
92_ said:
This part of the forum is stacked with people disuised as beatmakers/producers...but still it's lacking musicians...anyone offended? Good!

These days a "producer" is about a dime a dozen, and that's pretty understanding concidering the fact that everybody can produce at home. Lacing a track doesn't make you a producer, program/make a beat doesn't make you a producer. Being a musician doesn't make you a producer, but you will have to be a musician to be a producer. I get mildly annoyed, but twice as amused by freshies that live in their own little world. They tend to think that they're all that, and that they don't need other influences to tickle their imagination to further their spectrum of musical knowledge.
That's just a load of shit. I produce a range of different genres of music, and everyone of them makes me a better musician/producer. You learn as you go, and try different things, crossover genres as stuff like that. Inspiration would probably be the number one word here. If you're not accepting other forms of music then you might as well just pack up your shit and chuck it out the window (and into my window hehe).

I went to a norwegian hip hop forum a couple of months ago and they had created a thread to post other types of music, not just beats. The lead post went like this: Here you can post music from your other projects that might not be relevant to hip hop. (Statements like: "Trance is for loosers" will get you banned)

Thinking about the childish statements previously posted on that forum I was shocked to see that they actually accept other genres there. Specially something like trance, cause the majority of the users weren't really supporting that kind of music. More like hated it...(hence the warning in the lead post)
To me that was suprising, but it also make me think that there were ACTUALY musicians on that forum.

If you despise music of other genres and you call yourself a musician/producer then please leave that titel at the door. I use that as a formula when it comes to taking other people seriussly. You might be one hell of a beatmaker but if you don't know your country from your gabba you're bound to crash and burn in the end.
Therefor...the reactions in this thread to the somewhat limited taste in music isn't meant in a negative way...it's more like a: "Ha ha, I know where you're going to end, and I'm trying to tell you about it in the only way that will get thru to you."

-Nito

(Excuse my typos, I'm sure there are some)
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i half agree with you, and half think your an idiot.
i started making beats because i thought it would be fun,
and i needed beats to write to.
i cant control what i like and dont like, i dont like country music.
i dont relate to it, i dont like twang in guitars, i dont like (insert country music charecteristic here) etc.
i dont enjoy listening to it, so i dont. the end.

as to being a "musician".
if you would like to buy me instruments, i would love to learn to play them.
not everyone can afford to buy all the equipment needed to be a "musician" (under your definition).
that makes them less "official"?

you produce a range of different genras... congrats.
i produce hip-hop. thats what i enjoy doing.
its a matter of taste, not a matter of "realness" or "musicianship".

throw thier equipment away because they dont listen to other genras of music?!?!?! that a stupid statement.
your inspired by different things than me, who cares...
were both inspired, thats all that counts.

i dont play 1 instrument. but i love making beats. you think i should'nt unless i force myself to listen to country and learn to play guitar?

i take inspiration from a lot of stuff outside of hip-hop.
but i enjoy other forms of music. or i would'nt listen to them.

you guys take your selves too serious.
 
To me, it's like this. Someone that truly appreciates music would find factors in every genre to appreciate. No matter what type of music you are listening to, it's all buildt up around the same principles in the end. I used to have a one-tracked mind when it came to music, but broadening my horizon by force really did alot for me. I'm not saying you should listen to everything out there and like it, I'm just saying that try it on for size and if you don't like it, keep it to yourself. If you give it a go for a while, then you're more than likely to find certain aspects of it interesting in the end. I'm not trying to simplify and stupidify those who stick to one genre of music, I'm just saying...try something new, you might get surprised...and better at the music you do.

Even if you got a tricked out Evo in your driveway...it doesn't mean you're a master behind the wheels. Shure thing, you need some instruments to learn how to play them, but you don't need tons of instruments to become a musician...If you have the creativity and the patience to sit down in front of your computer and fiddle around for 3-4 hours (or more) with a draft, a few days to improve the draft, and add a few hours to get the mixing just right and then try some mastering after that again...I might pass you off as a musician and a producer, but there are factors here aswell man.

I'm tempted to say that certain people doesn't have the ability to see the bigger picture here...I didn't say throw out your equipment if you don't listen to other genres...did I? Read it again...

I have no idea how you came up with some of the statements in the previous post...
Get yourself an instrument and learn how to play it. It doesn't have to be that expensive, I'm pretty sure you can get a kiddy keyboard at your local toystore...but you probably wouldn't do that cause it would be like buying a toy for a kid...and you're not a kid like that...Point is...if you can't play that cheap kiddy keyboard you won't be able to play the Triton either...the principles are the same and you've got to start somewhere.

Nito
 
yo

i must take off my hat to you dude. you are on f*(kin fire with your production. that's definitely industry level music you are pumping out pimpin.
 
Rush,

I'm curious to know where you get those string sounds like the strings you have in "Popstar".
 
yo, i'm loving reason 3.0 right now. even the factory presets are nice as hell. damn soo much packed into one program! when i get some time i want to experiment with triggering.
 
jugalo180 said:
yo, i'm loving reason 3.0 right now. even the factory presets are nice as hell. damn soo much packed into one program! when i get some time i want to experiment with triggering.
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Yeah Fam,
Reason is "Off da what?"...............
People sleep but Reason is no joke and the sky is the limit! Have fun and keep dudes posted...............Yup Yup!
 
I feel so good I get goose bumps!

I did alot of studing and I have realized what it takes to make tracks sound hot. I'm willing to talk but I ain't telling you nothing. Sorry that's how they did me do your research. Oh and by the way this is more then a toy it's my blood.

holla
 
Trak said:
Rush,

I'm curious to know where you get those string sounds like the strings you have in "Popstar".
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Wow it's been a long time since I've been here! Damn I feel like I owe an apology. To answer your question, everything was done in Reason 3.0. The strings are all Reason Orkester.
 
BigRush said:
Wow it's been a long time since I've been here! Damn I feel like I owe an apology. To answer your question, everything was done in Reason 3.0. The strings are all Reason Orkester.
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yeah man, you've been moonlighting at FP! lol, what's up big homie? you've been blowing FP up, that's some real good stuff you've been doing for us.
 
BigRush said:
Wow it's been a long time since I've been here! Damn I feel like I owe an apology. To answer your question, everything was done in Reason 3.0. The strings are all Reason Orkester.
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yo Rush, would you mind linking that Reason file you posted for these guys? I'm not at home at the moment to post it..
 
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Hey Rush, can you take a quick listen and give me your opinion on my tracks?
Some are all created in Reason 1 and some version 3. I need to know if I'm on the right track here. I listen to all types of music (Drummer for 8 years, DJ for 10yrs) I love music. being a drummer, I love to create some layered drum beats so I try to make them punch through a bit you know. Anyway, let me know what "YOU" think about some of my tracks. I've only been a reason user for about 5 months. And I started on version 1 (from a friend) and about a month ago I bought version 3 and use it to create instrumentals for my video and animation production company. I would like your opinions on my "style" and quality of the work .
I create 90% of the drums sounds using layered tracks and re-inserting them into the sequencer (re-drum)

Here are some tracks. Most are laid out in full track mode with hook verse bridge sections etc but these are edited and are shorter for UL/DL speed.

Sample 1
Sample 2
Sample 3
Sample 4

Your comments and/or suggestions are greatly apprieciated!
Thanks for being on this forum.
Ray
 
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