Reason Guru Now In The House!!!

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sweetnubs said:
ok sweetnubs be here to teach-n-shit my homey dog. I get a fat bass sound by working wit some phat cats playing da $15,000 dollar upright bass n-shit. Dey know all dat keys an' shit dawg. like C D E F# G A C# B E-flat a-flat b-flat, etc. dawg dey be knowing like modes -n shit. like locrian mode, mixolydian mode, phrygian mode, aeolian mode etc. dawg. Sa-da-tay sa-da-tay. Dey be knowing like bebop 7th scales, II-V-I progressions, Coltrane progressions, Locrian #2 scales, etc. n-shit my po-dang dilly dawg. Shit dawg dey like practice n-shit for years for like 4 hours a day. Like dey actually can play an instrument n shit! Den day lay all dat shit down n nubs bust out da u47 n- de schoeps microphone, wit my Millenia Media pre's straight to 2" tape all of which I be learnin' how to use for like 20 years-n-shit my po-dack cracker macker. Dat shit sound tight bro'. Actual talented professional musicians recorded by a professional engineer! Holy shit stop the presses! Reason is for sorry ass mother-fuckers who can't play an instrument and don't know anything about actual engineering.


Your funny and obviously educated in the art of recording however; you can't tell that from the first part of your post.

If it makes you feel better recording jazz & reciting classical music theory then by all means do it.

However just because you do not care for a particular genre of music does not give you the reason to down it.

I don't care how much of a professional you are or how great the equipment is you are using.

Downgrading someone because of what they prefer to use to make music makes you look stupid.

Use whatever tool works for you whether its Reason or some Studer 2" tape machine attached to a SSL.

Just because you don't use something doesn't mean its crap or that it is not used by professionals or "real" musicians.
 
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Perhaps you should have left one of these out sweetnubs?

You said:
"Reason is for sorry ass mother-fuckers who can't play an instrument and don't know anything about actual engineering."

and after this you said:
"I get a fat bass sound by working wit some phat cats playing da $15,000 dollar upright bass n-shit. Dey know all dat keys an' shit dawg"

what you should be saying:
"Sorry ya all, I obviously don't know what Reason is about, I was just being an idiot and trying to act proffesional. Allthough I'm not, I'm really just a kid trying to get som attention here...by the way: Can someone help me with my shoelaces...?"

I don't think you've even been around Reason man, how can make a statement like that? "Reason is for sorry ass mother-fuckers who can't play an instrument and don't know anything about actual engineering" Whut? Basically what you're saying here is that every artist that utilise a sampler or synth is a sorry ass motherfucker...did your mother drop you on the floor when you were a kid or something? It's 2005 ofcourse we have artificial ways of getting instruments on a track...
I'm gonna take you for what you are, a sorry ass sound engineer who's gotten tired of the fact that the artists always get more attention than the engineer...perhaps some "14 year old pissed at you mother syndrome"?
I respect sound engineers...I just don't respect you nubs...

-92
 
BigRush said:
No I don't work for P-Heads... I'd make beats and never work on what I'm supposed to! And why would anyone need an 8-band Parametric if you're not mixing!! R3 has a new eq in it so maybe they heard you after all... But to be totaly honest, I've used the eq's in Reason maybe all of 4 times!! Its all about sound choices!!! My advice would be spend more time choosing sounds that fit your overall vision and rely less on the eq to shape the sound...


why would i not be mixing?? i dont have an engineer lol

are u joking me ....the reason sounds sound like a stale asshole ....I EQ every instrument I use on there, they all sound too "horny" ...

but I do like rockin the sp12 filter...it makes instruments sound sampled almost.....(if u cut the low mids and make it stop soundin like a sqwaking horn)

but seriously....that program generally sounds like trash....its sounds so fake its unreal....u have to add numerous effects/techniques to make the instruments sound half real
 
to much mix reviews on this software i downloaded the freaking demo but i don't have time to really play with it. plus there's mad crackling i don't know is it just the demo or what

yo sweetnubs when is the rap CD coming out
 
If you get crackling with Reason it's probably your buffersize that is too small.

Stop doging Reason...If you can't get the furniture from IKEA together it's not the god damned furniture that's posing a problem...it's the idiot with the wrench...

-Nito
 
i'm not talking about pops it a setting in the demo song or something, i just started a new document and the sci fi noises are gone
 
I can't believe how many levels this cat sweetnubs has offended me! I tell you what there ol' Nubs, when u take the sheet and pointy hat off, maybe we can talk. But then again talk about what? Reason is for people who can't play right?
I believe your exact words were:"Reason is for sorry ass mother-fuckers who can't play an instrument and don't know anything about actual engineering." Question there uhh Cletus: WHY WOULD YOU WANNA HANG OUT AND POST WITH SORRY ASS MOTHER FUCKERS??? Says a lot about you!!! I'd hang myself if I were that bored!!!

ATTENTION: This is a post dealing with aspects associated with Propellerheads Reason!! If you do not use REason or are just here to spread bad vibes, please exit.

I think there are better ways to spend a high sweetnubs. Try watching the Wall again or something.
 
Question: Is anyone using Reason with an AMD processor? I was looking to setup a third rig. Something moble, but not a laptop. Pentium or AMD?
 
Oh and sweetnubs I forgot, Thanks for the Rhyme about my mother. If she were alive she'd get a kick out of it. You are without a doubt one of the most ignorant people I have ever had the misfortune of running across. Good job Nubs! Real class act you are!!!
 
BigRush said:
Question: Is anyone using Reason with an AMD processor? I was looking to setup a third rig. Something moble, but not a laptop. Pentium or AMD?


Reason w/ AMD works fine... all my computers have AMD Processors in them.
 
Thanks BigWillz! They are far cheaper than Pentium so I may get two!!! HAHAHAH!!!
 
BigRush said:
Thanks BigWillz! They are far cheaper than Pentium so I may get two!!! HAHAHAH!!!

make sure you get the right mobo for that amd. nforce 2 chip works well. i checked the digi forum compatablilty page to find out the best chip/mobo/ram combo for my pcs. fast and cheap......cant b beat
 
need help getting MPC 2000XL to work with Reason

hey Reason users, I would appreciate some help with the following;

all I wan't to do is use the pads on my MPC to trigger samples in Reason but it's not working for me...

I have done the following;

1. connected MIDI OUT 1 on MPC to MIDI IN 1 on my MIDI Interface (Midi Hubble http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--TERMIDIHUBBLE). My MIDI interface then connects to my MAC via USB

2. In Reason PREFERENCES, for "PORT:" I have selected "MIDI HUBBLE"

any suggestions on what else I need to do?? Reason doesn't seem to be receiving any MIDI signals from my MPC :s

thanks!
 
sorry can't help i don't have either product

you should've started a new thread, becuase turned into something else well at least part of it
 
If you just want to use the mpc as a trigger, why don't you just program it manually in Reason instead...?
 
hiphopsupamix said:
need help getting MPC 2000XL to work with Reason

hey Reason users, I would appreciate some help with the following;

all I wan't to do is use the pads on my MPC to trigger samples in Reason but it's not working for me...

I have done the following;

1. connected MIDI OUT 1 on MPC to MIDI IN 1 on my MIDI Interface (Midi Hubble http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--TERMIDIHUBBLE). My MIDI interface then connects to my MAC via USB

2. In Reason PREFERENCES, for "PORT:" I have selected "MIDI HUBBLE"

any suggestions on what else I need to do?? Reason doesn't seem to be receiving any MIDI signals from my MPC :s

thanks!




Make sure your mpc is sending a midi channel rather than an internal drum track. Make it channel 1A or something. M-Audio makes a pad box named 'trigger finger' http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.list&ID=maudiocontrollers
or you could get akai's pad joint. i have sucessfully sent the pads of my 2000 to reason once or twice.....i just dont like to program the link everytime i power up reason. lazy.......LOL. hope it helps dun.

p-wizl.
 
BigRush said:
If anybody has any questions what so ever regarding Propellerheads REASON, please feel free to ask. I am more than happy to answer. I have been working with Reason as a PROFESSIONAL for 2 1/2 years now. I have sold my MPC, I put the SP1200 in storage years before that, and I only use one keyboard as a controller. I've produced an entire CD using REASON, and several songs, two of which appears on the WestSide Connection's CD "Terrorrist Threats" (Pimp the System & So Many Rappers in love) The mixes you hear on that CD are the TWO TRACK EXPORT STRAIGHT FROM REASON!!! I am also a BETA tester for REASON 3.0 Look out for it!! Its gonna be crazy!!!!

I would like to get to know the Cats using REASON.

BigRush 2005


Wuz up Big Rush It seems like you know alot about reason and music period. Some people say that reason has this computer sound. How do you go about getting that out. I have been using reason for about 4 years now. My cousin is a producer but he works with hard ware. I seem to have a pretty good understanding of reason. I would like to take my game to that next level. Your music sounds really good. I beleive you can help me in the area were I am weak at.

Do you use the devices in reason if so how often and how do you use them. How do you go about finding the right sound.Do you use rewire
 
Allthough I'm not BigRush with an excess of platina on my wall (I like to keep it simple hehe) I'll try answer some of your questions here. People tend to say that Reason sound too digital and has no feel to it. To counterweight this you would have to introduce some "degrading" to your music. See, back in the days when they had huge set ups with hardware synths, 3000 miles of cables and unpredictable drum machines it all sounded a bit more "human". I mean that in the sense that we're not perfect so the music wasn't either. A Great example is that for instance in Reason you play a substractor/Malstrøm saw waveform, you'd get excactly that...a saw waveform. But hardware solutions and old analog equipment had a certain wear and tear as well. This means that a saw waveform sort of had the "principles of a saw waveform" but it had anomalies (please correct my spelling hehe) to it as well. This is lacking in Reason, if you're just picking a patch and leave it at that. You've got to work more with the patches. Create minor "disfunctions", layer the synths, add some eq, some distortion, some compression, see what I'm getting at? Make it less than perfect, cause that's the way it all used to be.

Another thing worthy of concideration is that you should play things into reason with a midiboard instead of "step sequencing" in all your individuall notes. What drummer these days always hit with a perfect timing? what piano player always hit the notes when they should? No one...so when computer music came along we overdid this just a tad, by "over quantising" our midi parts. This makes it all sound cold, neutral and...computerish...cause it's all perfect. If you don't have a midiboard you should concider to turn of the "snap" function in reason so that you'll get hits that atleast could be human. When it comes to doing this with the dr machine there's a few "rules of engagement" to this. First off, what's keeping the beat steady? The Kicks...they need to be as close to perfect as possible, as well goes for the snares. These to together creates a groove that has to be tight. but the other parts has room for tiny "errors", it's not even an error in the dr programming, I would say it's more of a personal feel and touch.

The Reason units.
I use different ones depending on what style I would want my music in. All though Bigrush and I don't see a 100% eye to eye on the upcoming subject it's all about personal touches and I don't respect him any less for it hehe Just kidding Big
EQ and compression. It's important to learn those, cause they will help you to render the best results from your track. BUT! It all depends as well. Let's say you want to make something modern stuff. Something that's gonna be blasted out the speakers to sound loud and full. Here you would probably compress every god damn thing you have in your track. I've used this technique on some beats. I compress everything from the kicks to the snares to the hihats to the....to the....just to milk her for all she got hehe Same thing goes for the bass and all the other elements. EQ...same thing...there's no point in having much bass in the higher register of the piano/violin etc etc.
To put it simple, old school techniques would involve NOT doing the things you can do to day, but simply set yourself back to days when they produced and then mimic their techniques. I don't want to say to much about this cause unlike alot of others I'm smart enough to keep my holy production secrets for myself hehe.

Final tip. You can't go wrong with a bit of compression over the whole mix. Not everybody would agree with me on that...but that's just a matter of opinion.
Be carefull though, cause in the hands of the ignorant it can F up the track and create some less than desirable "sucktion/pumping" effect.

Music or equipment made by humans isn't perfect, so therefor don't make it perfect. Make it close to perfect, but not superhuman. We're not driven by algorithms, so there's always gonna be less than perfect.

The rewire thing.
Not a bad option. I don't use it alot personally, I'd rather take it all in Cubase instead of splitting it up into 2 programs. Other than that I do use some VSTs in my production, just not in the way everybody else does hehe

I hope this was helpfull in some way.

-Nito
 
9-duece gave you some really good advice! Although it was a bit "educated" (HAHAH!!)!!! I guess to repeat what he said in "dummy" speak, it try setting your Quantize to something like 50%. The one thing you may have to to do is go back and Make sure things that are supposed to happen on the down beat (The One), are actually there. If not, when you start the sequence there will be no kick, for example. The point is to make your tracks sound less mechanical and the mechanical sound starts with the hard quantize. Loosen that up a bit, then try to find sonds that compliment what you're looking to do (Thats a whole " 'nother " thread! )


The next thing I'd suggest is NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER use the factory sounds unless you're layering them with custom stuff!!! Why? Two reasons: They are set to a "general type of sound, meaning they intended them to appeal to hip hop, house, trance, jungle, rock you name it. What drum sounds do you know of that are "general" to every style of music?? So find sounds that are suitable for YOUR music. Number 2: Its a matter of STYLE!! Hip-Hop in particular was founded on doing things with sound that no-one else did, even with all the factory churned out music today, guys who have a unique sound are the ones who get noticed AND COPIED THE MOST!!!! So if you started out using the MPC for instance, keep sampling drums from records and samples from vinyl. No sense in changing your flavor because you changed the way you operate. Thats like becoming an asshole when you get a porsche..(ok bad analogy, cause I AM an asshole now!! HAHAHA)... Don't use canned sounds!! It'll only make you sound like everyone else!!!

On the tech side, 92 was right, getting to know EQ and compression is extremely important. Most young cats see the drum machine and the subtractor and go nuts, but when it sounds like your speaker is covered with a blanket, or its so shrill you can't play it loud, you learn that eq and compression (when used wisely) can help a mix! We do differ on the fine points, but overall eq and compression is a big part of the total package.

I use ReWire sometimes. Like 92, I usually just export it all out and open Cubase or Nuendo (No diss to Pro-Tools!! Please no flames!). Sometimes I'll even export a midi file so I can double or replace sounds with modules like Trilogy or the NI modules!

FYI, I use the ReDrum (usually 2 of them do the trick), and now I am hooked on the Combinator!! I start with a patch I like and screw with it until i like it or hate it. If I hate it, I'll just startover...simple. Patience is a virtue not some old broad!! (corny!).
I will Combine strings with synths to get that perfect string for a particular record. The key is train yourself to keep throwing new stuff together so you don't get stuck using the same patches all the time.

By the way thanks for the love... Its cool when folks dig what you do! I'm looking forward to hearing some music from you as well....




Wish there was a place HERE to post music... I hate having to go update soundclick!!!
 
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