Question on recording concepts.

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I am having to write a paper about a concept. I chose recording music, and the structure of the song. I was going to compare it to the building of a house and how the drums are the foundation, guitar and bass are the walls, and the lead guitar, vocals, etc etc serve as the paint, because it is what seperates the sounds of songs, as well as the monotiny of a red brick house. But i was wondering if by anychace, any one knew any resources, or links for similar thoughts.
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No, i was actually hoping i could find some good resources.
 
How does that saying go?

"Talking about music is like dancing about architecture" ?

Something like that.

Hey, drumguy, I think I just gave you your title: "Dancing about Architecture" -- By Drumrguy

And that actually works on a lot of different levels when you think about it.
 
If you want to act all intelligent in your paper then don't call the drums the foundation.

In ANY form of music the melody is the foundation.

Old McDonald had a farm,
E, I, E, I, O


That ain't no cottin' pickin' drums on this here farm.
 
or should that be:

G.O.O.G.L! (E)

Lots of stuff out there drumrguy - nothing in particular I can refer you to but I'm sure someone else will be able to help.
 
Outlaws said:

In ANY form of music the melody is the foundation.


Hah the old melody vs drums argument.

Maybe it's neither. Maybe it's the rythym, the groove. The world moves on a woman's hips. That' s what music is about - get those hips swinging
 
I thought lava lamps were the foundation of all recording.
 
George Martin had a series on BBC TV a few years ago concerning this concept. He divided (in general order of importance) the foundation of music into 3 parts: Rhythm, Melody & Harmony. From what I remember, he said that the Rhythm is most important to start with, as it is something we have all been attracted to since birth (i.e. our mother’s heartbeat). Rhythm is also around us in nature at all times (i.e. change of seasons etc.) & everywhere we walk, we are walking in some sort of rhythm.

A lot of tribal music is exclusively based on rhythm, as it’s a celebration of nature, human nature, birth, death etc. I initially agreed with the Old McDonald theory, but now I think about it, the most attractive thing children find in this song must be the strong, forceful rhythm (esp. the “With a …” section).

Even the most distinctive classical pieces have a strong foundation of rhythm. Imagine Beethoven’s 5th with the same melody but different rhythm. It wouldn’t work nearly as well as a different melody with the same rhythm. I find the same thing with many of the great guitar riffs – the melody can be changed around a bit, but the rhythm is essential to keep the original feel (or intention) intact.

It’s the same with modal/scalar writing or improv – the notes alone (although a great tool) cannot duplicate the mood you’re intending to put across to the listener. A Major mode can be phrased in such a way as to sound very sad, as a harmonic minor scale can sound very happy if phrased in a certain manner. It’s all down to a strong foundation of rhythm.
 
Maurice3000 said:
A lot of tribal music is exclusively based on rhythm, as it’s a celebration of nature, human nature, birth, death etc.


Tribal music is a celebration of people who want to stay in the stone age.


But if you are refering to the native american drum beats.....well, whats the fight song of the Atlanta Braves again?
 
I agree that rythym is the foundation for most music, latin beats, tribal beats, native american beats, that is some of the oldest music on earth i believe. peace!!!
 
rhythm is not necessarily drums.

It's the timing. Ever seen people slow dance to someone singing acapella or to a song without drums?

Timing of a song is very important, but timing cannot stand alone. As mentioned above it takes all elements and not one of them being the more important than the others :)
 
i wouldnt do the paper like that, expanding on a tenuous analogy for an entire paper sounds like a bad plan...

you picked two subjects, each equally good for basing a paper on: recording music and song structure (and by song structure i assume you dont just mean "verse-chorus-verse-chorus", but the components of music that make up a song). i would write it on one or the other. not both.

and personally i would go with the song concept. you can do a lot with that... how "noise" is organized and understood in a way that makes it a "song". you can take it from a biological/evolutionary standpoint (connection between "song" and "language" and meaning). or from cultural theory standpoint. or you can be really silly and relate it to memetics.

http://jom-emit.cfpm.org/1998/vol2/vaneechoutte_m&skoyles_jr.html

that is a huge ball of wax that you can melt down to 5 pages if you really want to go out on a limb. get ready for some real academic style writing.
 
i know its kinda sad to think like this, but who's gonna be reading this?

I know the teachers I've had would fall into two catagories, either they would give me an A for even mentioning memetics, or hear memetics and say "what is this bullshit," as they toss my paper in the garbage. I know I would find it interesting...

Eric

P.S. Good luck!
 
You could always ask Cyan Jaguar to give you a thesis on his "Wild Card" theory . . .

. . . or you might not. :D :D (Just kidding, Cyan)
 
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