Public Mix Contest #11 !!!!!!

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FINAL ENTREE for jerberson12

Ok here's my final entree. I mixed this 2 times already. What I did is lower the reverb on the snare so it can come in front a little as well as the vocals, thats it. I updated the file from my website.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/benison_jerberson
click public folder then
click HR-PMC11
 
ocnor said:
I'm not really sure what you mean. We are talking about PMC 11 mix2 right?The only Phase/flanging effect that I used was on the distortion guitars. I used a little reverb and delay on the vocals but thats about it for the FX.
The first mix that I did without the distortion guitars was a little loud because I used a limiter. I didn't use any compression or limiting on the second mix so it is not nearly as loud.

Hmm, maybe I listened to the wrong mix (or somebody else's :confused: :o ). I'll try again tonight.
 
mshilarious said:
Hmm, maybe I listened to the wrong mix (or somebody else's :confused: :o ). I'll try again tonight.

I think mshilarious ended up with permanent brain and hearing damage from listening to my mix. Sorry guys. :eek:

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Ed
 
Well I'm hoping that the 3rd time is a charm. Finster you were right about the guitars. I was trying to modulate the distortion guitars to fend off the droning but I went a little overboard. I believe that I have a better balance now. Any comments are appreciated.
PMC 11 mix #3
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/jerryronco_music.htm
 


Here's my second, NOT FINAL, shot at it. I turned the room mics down, pulled up the ACgtr, and squashed the backing vox down a little as suggested by finster. Also added another lead guitar, let me know if you guys think it's a little too busy. Comments and suggestions greatly appreciated.
 
Well, I started from scratch on this one. It's very dry. Just a little eq to tone the cymbals down.



Hopefully, noone dies from it.
Ed
 
This is my first mix ever other than tracking and mixing myself on acoustic guitar. I did this with an old version of Cubasis and a soundblaster live soundcard on a pc running windows 98.

Started with panning the bassdrum and used a little eq to tame the bass guitar to get them to set together. Then I mixed the other drum tracks, overhead and room mics to get a decent level. I listened to and added the other tracks one by one. I didn't sense a place in the mix for the distorted guitar so I dropped it. Does that make me a producer? I edited the 2nd backup vocal in a couple spots with WaveLab lite where she got too loud(did a gain reduction) and her voice broke(copied and pasted an earlier take). Chopped the "cool" off the lead vocal track at the end.

By the time I got to the 16th channel I found out my pc(piece of crap) couldn't handle mixing all the channels at once. Not knowing what to do I figured I'd mix down the bass and drums on one stereo track and everything else on another. Well I got through that and opened up a new mix, imported those two tracks and inserted a 3 band compressor on each track only to face an insane dilemna. It sounded pretty good monitoring both tracks before I exported the mix but when mixed together the bass about blew my speakers. The sum of two mastered tracks introduced some pretty strong artifacts.

Soo, I didn't want to admit defeat so I worked for a few hours cutting back on the bass, mixing and testing only to find I pretty much lost all the stereo field and it sounded like this:


After sleeping on it !, I woke up figuring out that I could just export the bass/drum track with all the other channels mixed in. The ole puter handled that, so I now had one stereo final mixed track to master. Had alot of fun trying to figure out how to master using everything I ever learned on this bbs :eek: :D . Anyhow this is my final mix and I'm sticking to it.


Another day of learning and having a blast. Many thanks to NL5 for hosting the mp3.
 
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NYMorningstar said:
After sleeping on it !, I woke up figuring out that I could just export the bass/drum track with all the other channels mixed in. The ole puter handled that, so I now had one stereo final mixed track to master. Had alot of fun trying to figure out how to master using everything I ever learned on this bbs :eek: :D . Anyhow this is my final mix and I'm sticking to it.


Another day of learning and having a blast. Many thanks to NL5 for hosting the mp3.
Why did you encode your MP3 at 56 kbps 22khz? You need to use at least 128 kbps 44 khz unless you want it to sound like an old transistor radio.
 
ocnor said:
Why did you encode your MP3 at 56 kbps 22khz? You need to use at least 128 kbps 44 khz unless you want it to sound like an old transistor radio.
It was the best my adaptec burner would do. Suppose I should find a better mp3 ripper and repost this. Thanks ocnor.

EDIT:
Well here goes again. I changed the previous post too. Thanks again ocnor

 
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instead of double posting....you guys should go to the computer recording forum and check out the thread called "outside my studio window!!!" I saw this while I was working on the contest tonight...maybe its a sign???
 
Ok...after getting rid of my new little friend....I came back inside and did one last mixdown before bed....what you guys think???



its still uploading at the moment so if you are trying to play it in the next few mins...you guess it...you wont hear it all....
 
I made a few tweaks, I hope you guys like it :



I still didn't want to put the distortion guitar in there... It seems just out of place even if it adds somekind of MEAT to the mix, just not my cup of tea I guess...

Thx a lot to mshilarious and xfinsterx for the reviews, that's a lot of time you are giving us, for free, and I believe this is the most effective learning activity any one of us can get, thx!

Comments???
 
mshilarious said:
Disposable - Didn't work for me dawg (sorry I'm supposed to be Paula). The distortion is distracting during the verses, work on that balance as well as vocal balance, roll the distortion on the verses. Overall the mix sounds hollow, distant (lots o' verb), and quiet. The verses aren't evenly loud, they get louder each time and there are stray peaks.

Wow, that's odd...
The only reverb I used was on the lead vocal (very little) and the snare...

Ah well, back to it.

I really can't stand the distortion guit...
Don't understand why it's even there to be honest... haha.
 
Disposable said:
Wow, that's odd...
The only reverb I used was on the lead vocal (very little) and the snare...


Ya know after listening to 'em all, I think maybe the drums were recorded in a verby space. xfinsterx?
 
tenkas said:
I still didn't want to put the distortion guitar in there... It seems just out of place even if it adds somekind of MEAT to the mix

I think that's exactly right, it's meat . . . I don't live in Kansas, so not every bite should be meat--I eat my vegetables too.
 
I think part of my problem in mixing this is...
The song doesn't really lend itself at all to artistic leeway within the mixing.
Unfortunately, that's what I do,
I try to experiment and in most cases it works.
This one is just too 'pure" for that, I suppose.

Like Chris's reference mix...
While sounding pretty good, didn't do anything for me.
Though, I know that's probably how this song should be mixed...
I really don't want to mix it like that.

This is the reason why I really only mix my own stuff,
Because then I have full artistic control over how it's done.
 
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