Pictures of You

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Nutdotnet said:
Eh...I don't know...they sound too "boxy" to me; but it could just be the speakers I'm listening on.
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It's the sound that's bothersome to you, rather than the performance?

I agree it sounds boxy and a little harsh, too - it's not your speakers. It's 2x sm57 and 2x c1000s. They were my first condensers. Now they get a little action around the snare, and that's about it. (hat tip trackrat).


Thanks for the reply -

-Casey
 
Nutdotnet said:
Eh...I don't know...they sound too "boxy" to me; but it could just be the speakers I'm listening on.
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It must be the drum sound, rather than performance. It is not a great sounding drum recording for sure. Possibly the drums are too dry for you? We tend to not use a lot of reverb, because it just sounds better to us that way. We try to put some on from time to time, and then roll it back after it sounds fake or too wet.
 
Supercreep said:
It's the sound that's bothersome to you, rather than the performance?

I agree it sounds boxy and a little harsh, too - it's not your speakers. It's 2x sm57 and 2x c1000s. They were my first condensers. Now they get a little action around the snare, and that's about it. (hat tip trackrat).


Thanks for the reply -

-Casey
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No, the performance was fan-frickin-tastic; although may be a bit heavy on the crash cymbal; but that could be due to the sound.

Everything from the piano to the vocals have the underlying 'creepiness' and 'life' to it and then the drums hit right as I was getting into it and they brought the whole song down. To me, it was as if you were trying to build up to something with the drums; but they sound so 'lifeless' compared to the rest of the instruments.

I'm at work right now or I'd listen again.

Like I said before, great song, I love the style of music and you rocked it!
 
I loved the piece. I wouldn't change anything about the crash, but maybe a little more reverb on the kick where the drums come in.
 
Smoove stuff...,enjoyed. I'd level the piano out a bit , but not enough to lose the dynamics. A little limiting on the solo vocal after 2:00 .
 
Been listening and enjoying it, and have a couple ideas that I'll toss out FWIW. I love the sonority at 2:43 - it has a Modern Jazz Quartet feel there. It might sound good though to shorten that connecting section slightly - to tighten it up by having one fewer repetition of that two bar passage (2:43) before it starts building to the vocal re-entry. Just an idea. Also, at 3:40 there are what sound like two quick edit points where the tail of the cymbal sustain is interrupted.

Tim
 
Timothy Lawler said:
Been listening and enjoying it, and have a couple ideas that I'll toss out FWIW. I love the sonority at 2:43 - it has a Modern Jazz Quartet feel there. It might sound good though to shorten that connecting section slightly - to tighten it up by having one fewer repetition of that two bar passage (2:43) before it starts building to the vocal re-entry. Just an idea. Also, at 3:40 there are what sound like two quick edit points where the tail of the cymbal sustain is interrupted.

Tim
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Yikes!!

You're right about that... although the drums were recorded as a single take there is something very wrong there at the end. We'll be checking that out tonight. The little "solo" section was a verse, but was too meandering. I'll talk to Incanus tonight about it. Thanks for the listens, Tim!!
 
Supercreep said:
Yikes!!

You're right about that... although the drums were recorded as a single take there is something very wrong there at the end. We'll be checking that out tonight. The little "solo" section was a verse, but was too meandering. I'll talk to Incanus tonight about it. Thanks for the listens, Tim!!
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I wouldn't change anything until first talking to Monkey......Tim has proven he is second fidle at music when Monkey is present..... :D


(sorry Tim, just had to do that...)
 
As soon as I heard the first notes, I thought Paul McCartney. And then around 2:06 it's that 70's sound. Very intimate sounding compared to your other stuff... so when's your album coming out? :)
 
v6v6v6 said:
As soon as I heard the first notes, I thought Paul McCartney. And then around 2:06 it's that 70's sound. Very intimate sounding compared to your other stuff... so when's your album coming out? :)
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Three or four more, I guess. We've got the songs written and (mostly) arranged - we just have to knuckle down and capture them.

The next one is definitely the most complex rhythmically and melodically so far. We hope to get the basic guitar tracks done this month.

PM me with your address and I'll send you a disc when we're ready.

-Casey
 
Dogman said:
he is second fidle at music when Monkey is present.....
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A note from Monkey's private secretary:

True Mr. Dogman, Monkey is customarily acknowledged with first chair rank in his violin work. Even the high speed camera lens can’t capture the quickness of his gifted hands.
 

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My, my Monkey, what a big F hole you have!

Great song BTW, loved the piano playing, beautiful vocal.
 
Wow,really enjoyed this one...I like the old vinyl sound in the beginning...maybe shorten the amount of time its present?What I like about this song is it kinda creates a melencholy mood,and those vocal harmonies sound really great!Nice job!
 
variaxman said:
Wow,really enjoyed this one...I like the old vinyl sound in the beginning...maybe shorten the amount of time its present?What I like about this song is it kinda creates a melencholy mood,and those vocal harmonies sound really great!Nice job!
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Interesting. So far, it looks to be something like 9 against and 1 for the needle on vinyl scratching sound. (not that I counted, just an estimate.)

I'm leaning now towards ditching the that sound. Supercreep and I will debate it tonight.

Thank you for listening.
 
Timothy Lawler said:
Been listening and enjoying it, and have a couple ideas that I'll toss out FWIW. I love the sonority at 2:43 - it has a Modern Jazz Quartet feel there. It might sound good though to shorten that connecting section slightly - to tighten it up by having one fewer repetition of that two bar passage (2:43) before it starts building to the vocal re-entry. Just an idea. Also, at 3:40 there are what sound like two quick edit points where the tail of the cymbal sustain is interrupted.

Tim
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I'm guessing you're talking about the first few bars of the intrumental section? Like Casey said, it used to be a sort of verse there. In fact, only up until a week ago or so. This was our first attempt at making it into an intrumental bit. We may play with that more.

I don't remember any editing happening at the end, but I will have to check that out. Thank you for listening so attentively. You're encouragement and help are very much appreciated.
 
I didn't comment on the scratching. I think that it should be left up to the artist. Of course, if it was too loud and distracting, that would be an issue worth commenting on. But if you guys feel it adds to the mood and feel that YOU are going for, it doesn't matter what 10 people out of the 4 billion on this earth say.

Having said that, my vote would be to start the song with it and slowly fade it away barely noticeably so that by halfway through the tune, we barely even notice it went away. But again, that's how I would do it. It doesn't really matter. It's your song and it's an awesome tune with or without it.
 
Incanus said:
Interesting. So far, it looks to be something like 9 against and 1 for the needle on vinyl scratching sound. (not that I counted, just an estimate.)

I'm leaning now towards ditching the that sound. Supercreep and I will debate it tonight.

Thank you for listening.
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Yeah, well you'd better bring your debating pants!!

:confused:

Anyway, I like the sound. But we can experiment with it later as you say. First off we need to fix the sound crapping out on the cymbals at the end of the song.
 
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