Phatman Studios

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ignition said:
Honestly, I prefer Zeke's design, but that's just me :)

Nice work,

travis
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I agree.

I prefer what Zeke's design is now doing.
It took awhile, and it's not a innovative layout. But it's easy, and people know how to work that type of layout.

It's just the grammer and setting up the other section of his site to mesh with the main area and he's far better off than originally.

There's this guy that does books on "the worst web sites online"
And it went off a lot about how a business type of site can't do foolish crap -like: bad color schemes (like bright yellow backgrounds with thin small green text fonts!!!!), hidden links but once you hover or click them it tells you about it. For a personal site, or a band site. It's supposed to be creative, weird, and uncomfortable (if you so please) to your liking.

But a business site should be clear, and user friendly. And as long as the design is clear and familiar you'll do better. As the visitor will know how to work everything. Rather than being distracted by weird layout design.

And that's kind of what pdlstl links made me think of (and the current color scheme)...though I do know there will ALWAYS be someone who hates the color scheme. It's pretty majority here the people don't like it...so it's not like "it's good there's just a few bad egg viewers." It's just kind of bad /:

When it comes to business sites and their familiar layout. I'me used to the layout Zeke has going now, horizontal links at top or bottom. Frames or not.

though I admire how far you're going to help out here, just wanted to kind of clearify why I like Zeke's layout better. And maybe a little info for people with business sites of their own.

Really, look at successful pro-business with time in the site. Clear and familiar, that guy with the worst site books does not lie.
 
Just as an example.... here's what the "visited links" look like on my screen over the green background.... impossible to read....
 

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First of all thanks to all who posted comments. It's exactly what I asked for.

Just keep in mind that the pages as they are right now were thrown together in between projects at my real job. I didn't even have chance to check the layout in Navigator and Opera. So, over the next few days it will continue to evolve. And of course, I'm still waiting to hear back from Zeke for his feedback. Heck, it might change completely when I hear from him.

Thanks again for everyone's input.

Earl
 
This is what it looks like on my screen:

The yellow font; while it looks worse in the attachment than it does on my screen, is actually quite readable for me.

Now the blue font, ..... that..... hurts my eyes.
 

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Nosferous said:
I have some suggestions for your splash page (aka VERY first page)...
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I hate splash and I hate flash. People need to consider that there are folks with dialups still living. If your going do get into all show and no go graphics make the entry page have a high speed and slow speed choices.

I like the color, but I think the links should be graphic buttons or something similar to avoid the visited link color change on most browsers. I think the frontpage is a great start and has good impact. ebsite also need to be quick loading for the most part so that the information is easily accessible.


Here is one of the more simple examples of professionally designed websites.
http://www.beartracks.com/

Here is one of my favorite local places Id like to visit. Its
http://www.bearcreekstudio.com/

SoMm
 
Beartracks -- MAN... I *love* the look of that place....!!!
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Beartracks -- MAN... I *love* the look of that place....!!!
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;) It looks like the kinda place any old bear could hibernate in;)


SoMm
 
Son of Mixerman said:
I hate splash and I hate flash. People need to consider that there are folks with dialups still living.

SoMm
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While I'll agree that flash can be over used, it can also be used effectively.

Go ahead and spring for the cable SoMm and join the rest of us in the 21st century. ;)

:D
 
I use flash for the intro to my web site. I think flash tends to be over used when they use it for the entire site. Son of Mixerman, you can change colors of links that have previously been clicked on if you know html. I recently dumped most of my site and started new. Check it out

http://www.jhkstudios.com

(It's only a home studio)
 
pdlstl said:
Here is another site I just completed. While not completely
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Its a little non-traditional, but its very "texan" looking with the color theme, and very appropriate for the content.

*I* like that one a lot. And it loads real fast.
 
I'm with Son of Mixerman. I don't like complex looking sites. I don't like static sites either, I like to have some interaction with them, and being the admin of several, I like to manage them over the web so I don't have to have all of my editing software everywhere I go. Here's a couple of my sites, neither of these are related to music, but here they are (Keep in mind, these are not client-based sites... They're just for fun):
http://www.fierojoe.com/
http://www.ricewarsthegame.com/

I also designed smuckinfart1's site, and he manages it all through the web as well. Check it out at:
http://www.keithray.net/

To me, a simple but effective design is always best. Loads extremely fast on high speed internet connections (which is impressive to clients) while still being very friendly to those who use a dial-up! And best of all, they are much easier to make cross-browser compatible.
 
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I know that you can change setting within the browser, but it defeats the purpose by causing other pages to load funny.

Im not paying for cable until its reasonable, $50 a month is steep for non-business related computers. I have kids to feed and mic's to collect. (my wife just chewed me out for my new v67g)

The problem with flash is that where I work I have a firewall and corporate dictates that limit and in some cases remove what they call buggy and extravagant audio/visual plug ins. So When Im at work, I don't see flash and I don't hear squat. It would be nice for people to appeal to the technologically impoverished. I don't feel that technology should be used as a class divider on the internet. If you don't want people to see your site thats fine.

SoMm
 
pdlstl - okay, I'm impressed.

let me know when you're ready to draw cartoon monkeys LOL
 
Zeke's new site

I really like the 3d logo. I think it's just a tad too dark... I also think that you need to change the font on the links after you enter the site. Maybe have them be similar to the Phatman studio 3D image. I will be waiting to see how the site comes along tho... Keep up the good work pdlstl and Zeke!

Scott
 
Hell, at least Zeke had a site before. Bad spelling and all but it was there. Now what have you got, 1 page. I guess that's what you get for free eh Zeke?
 
HangDawg said:
Hell, at least Zeke had a site before. Bad spelling and all but it was there. Now what have you got, 1 page. I guess that's what you get for free eh Zeke?
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Cute response.

Zeke knows that I was going out of town all last week through yesterday. And he still has his original site up. I have no intention of publishing anything else regarding the site until it's finished.

But thanks for your erudite coments.

Earl
 
Good idea with redoing his site.

I was thinking about doing that myself, but didn't have the time.

In regards to comments:
- I don't like the links at the top
- I think that pages that only have "enter" on them are useless
- don't like the green color (on cheaper monitors is might appear as black)
- I liked his old design better. I would have gone with that personally and just updated it.

I designed a site for my brothers band in a few hours some time ago. Take a look and feel free to comment if you want.

Here's the link:
www.endlessfight.webhop.net

P.S. I am glad someone did Zeke the favour. Good job :D
 
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