Patience is a virtue...

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Hey Ed,

Don't forget, me telling you how to record,
is like me telling Babe Ruth how to hit a baseball. The only advantage I might have, is a more relaxed atmosphere in which to listen. The reason I picked out the snare, was because to my ears, it sounds central, and a strong part of the band's signature.

On the other hand, my recordings kind of suck, so take my criticism with many grains of salt.
 
I just thought of another thing about that snare. I actually tried to get it a bit more snappy. Small problem, that neato snappy sound just didn't exist on tape. As it was, I recall having turned up about 4 db of some high shelf as well as a couple db of 4-5KHz on the snare track just to get it to what you hear. Any more eq and it started to really bite the head off because it was just making a annoying tone.

I always say, you gotta get the sound really close at tracking time if you want to dial it in at mix time. The tracking engineer likes for some reason to get the mic kind of close to the snare. On an overly bright snare, this would mellow out the sound and bring out more resonanace, but on a thick sound like this snare it really just makes is kind of milky sounding. You wind up with an overloaded mic which will smooth out the sharpness of the sound beyond repair. Try to downplay the mid's and you wind up with a thin snare that will sound like white noise in the mix.

Anyway, it is what it is. No changing it now. It is there for all to critisize. I wouldn't post my mixes on here if I was sensitive to critisism. I am not when it is at least somewhat asstute and meaningfull. Your was.

Ed
 
And something you will need a lot of it you decide to download this song!!! :D

A little twist from Porterhouse. This one is called Temporary Insanity, and it is an apt name for it. A 6/4 over 4/4 meter.

Me and the keyboard player who played "producer" at mix time almost fought over this mix. There was no appearent reason for our snide remarks back and forth through this 6 hour drudge. But after about 4 hours of listening to the song, I realized that the songs meter and tension created harmonically was affecting both of us. When I mentioned this to the tracking producer, he told me that was the effect the keyboard player had in mind when he wrote it. Nice of him to warn me ahead of time!!! :D

Okay, this baby is big. I mean REALLY big.
. 11.9 MB 192kbs mp3 file. I told you...

So to be nice, I am providing a 2 min. cut of the tune so you can see if you want to wait for the full download or not.
. 2.74 MB 192kbs mp3 file.

If you all start getting crazy from listening, well, you know what I went through. Just play it over and over again for 6 hours, and have a rather "high strung" person behind you the whole time telling you what to do.... :D You will appreciate my patience then.

Ed
 
Ed- nope a high speed connect is a virtue!
that was a 90 sec D/L... :)
I'll get back to you on the review when I've experienced it as you suggested. But it brings up a memory of a tune I wrote that switched back and forth between 13/4 and 15/4 meter. I called it "Race to the Rubber Room".
During recording of this piece our drummer, also named Ed got completely fed up with our inability to get it right while he was right on the money with every take. He stood up, and announced, "That's it, I'm outta here" and we never heard from him again....
We found a new drummer to record the song but he wasn't as good, having played only 1 year.
 
Hey Ed,

Man that sounds great, sounds like a perfect mix to me. I did the two minute one, took twelve minutes to load, smart idea putting in a short version, for slow computers. I liked the tune also, will probably go for the rest of it. The begining sounded like too much whiskey!!
 
Hey Ed,

Having listened a couple of times, over what I think are pretty accurate speakers, I would try maybe a little more treble on the snare, just to give it a little more snap. You have probably already tried this though. Sorry to nitpick.
 
No problem GT. I didn't say I LIKED the mix, just making it available. There are a gazillion little things about that mix that I don't care for, the hazards of having a overactive "producer" at mix time. But thanks for the feedback, I do agree though. Not much to do about it now, you are listening to the mastered version. That CD is off to the CD Dupe plant already.

Ed
 
Well I had a chance to loop this tune all day at work. It doesn't even come close to the psychosis of my Race to the Rubber Room tune.
It was actually written inside a nightmare that woke me up sweating and I couldn't get back to sleep before figuring it out on guitar and writing down the chords. Maybe I'll have to post the mp3 of that rare moment from 1976, but the quality really sucks since it's a gazillionth generation mono copy on a heavily damaged cassette.
If only I'd had these tools back then....
 
doc, I have heard you whole CD. I didn't expect it to phase YOU one bit... :D You are too numb for that...LOL

Ed
 
Please don't confuse an apparent insensitivity toward a conventional perception of reality with an enhanced
sensitivity of an unfamiliar perceptual
viewpoint. :)

The 64 K mono file is 2308 KB.
Shall I E-mail it to you?
Some historic stuff. I was 20.
 
How can I say no doc. Post it somewhere. My IP won't allow anything over 1MB or so in an email.

Ed
 
doc, you never cease to amaze me with your little gems. Well, actually, this one is the biggest gem I have ever heard from you, but, you gotta give the drummer some time to warm up.... :D

What a delightfull piece.

But, it missed on making me go crazy. It was not insistent enough. Meaning, it didn't ground in a groove long enough in any part to drive me nuts. It also has such a light air to it. Whimsical.

But thanks for sharing it. This one goes on a backup disk so I don't lose it... :)

Ed
 
I'm trying to download this for the third time. Maybe the third time is the charm.
 
I had to remove the cut version so that I could upload something for doc to hear. I will put it back up here shortly. Sorry.

Ed
 
Ed,

Any idea where this album is going to be distributed? Oregon only? Nation-wide?

Will I be able to buy this album in Asia?
 
Actually Ed, I got the long version on the fourth try. :) But thanks- sorry to make you do an extry upload!

And just now I typed a decently long post and lost it! :mad:

But anyway I'll just say this-

I really dig that groove!

-jhe
 
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