Paiste fans - Best ride

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OK, I've got a 2000 power ride, which I am sick of...

I know I asked this before, but I want new opinions. Which, in your opinion, is Paiste's best ride? I want darker, a nice ping, a little wash, but nothing bright like the peice o' crap power ride I have now! It records like hell! Tooooo bright!

Suggestions?
 
PhilGood said:
OK, I've got a 2000 power ride, which I am sick of...

I know I asked this before, but I want new opinions. Which, in your opinion, is Paiste's best ride? I want darker, a nice ping, a little wash, but nothing bright like the peice o' crap power ride I have now! It records like hell! Tooooo bright!

Suggestions?


Well, my favorite so far has been the Signature Full Ride. I just can't seem to come up with the $300+ to buy it. :mad:

I'm playing on a 22" Rude Ride that I've had since 1981. :p
It's really only got one use, and that use is - it will cut through anything. I use a 20" Full Crash as a light ride, because the Rude is just too heavy for any delicate stuff....but the bell on the Crash is rotten for ride work, so I use the bow of the Crash for really low volume riding, and then when the music builds up, I go back to the Rude. (This was a particular song that I used this for.

I guess I shouldn't complain.....the Rude does sound good, I just wanted something more "crystal" like.... I have a specific Ride sound I want, and there's a recording that I first heard the Full Ride on and my jaw dropped, so I've wanted one ever since.

Tim
 
Yes indeed....the Signature Full Ride. I have one and it's a killer cymbal. I switched from playing a 24" Z heavy ride (great if you're Tommy Aldridge on the arena tour) and it recorded terribly for me. Then I went shopping and my idea of the sound that I was shooting for continuously sent me back to the Sig Full ride. I bought it and, man, it's an instrument in itself. It has a beautiful wash, nice distinct bell and (to my ears) no unwanted aftertones, like all Signatures I have.

I found it advertised at 8th Street Music for like 230.00. Okay, they didn't actually have it in stock (of course), but I printed off the quote and took it down to my percussion shop and they reluctantly matched it. But even at 300.00, it's worth it.
 
Kinda jazzy, but I love my 22" Dark Energy Ride Mark II. Its a beautiful ride... I've heard some old jazz fans comparing it to the old Sound Creation Dark Ride (which is supposed to be some fucking amazing light ride, but i've never heard it, so I dunno). In fact, the whole DE series is beautiful! I have 14" hats, 19" crash... and the 22" ride. The Mark II is slightly birghter and washier than the mark I, but it is also a bit louder, and it is not what I would call a washy ride (the mark I is fairly dry). If your looking for a more dleicate ride, I suggest this one.

FOrgot to mention, it has a nice ping, some wash, and is pretty dark. Basically it fits ur description. Try it before u buy it, of cours,e u might end up wanting soemthing louder, but I still say its an awesome ride.
 
wholelottabonzo said:
Paiste 2002 24"


It's all you'll ever need. :)

Well, if your saying that because bonzo used it, I think that they changed the 2002 since he died. The newer red labels are supposedly thicker, so ur gonna get a different sound from em.
 
tilinmyowngrave said:
Well, if your saying that because bonzo used it, I think that they changed the 2002 since he died. The newer red labels are supposedly thicker, so ur gonna get a different sound from em.

Yes, the 2002's are pretty thick. They cut through loud rock music well while still sounding very musical.
I had a 2002 22" ride (not a 24" but still huge) and it was awesome. It worked perfectly for what I played when I had it, but for something more mellow/laidback/not as loud- I would spring for a Signature series. They are much more 'refined'. I'm definitely a Paiste lover though.
 
tilinmyowngrave said:
Well, if your saying that because bonzo used it, I think that they changed the 2002 since he died. The newer red labels are supposedly thicker, so ur gonna get a different sound from em.

I have borrowed some fairly new ones when i done some recording and the are just the dogs.

Yes they are a bit thicker and little less washy but they still sound amazing and not as much different from the originals as you might think. The 24" ride can just lift a song to new hights when you play it.

In my opinion they are just brilliant and can work in so many musical situations not just bonzo style rock.
 
6gun said:
Yes indeed....the Signature Full Ride. I have one and it's a killer cymbal.

Indeed. I scored one amazingly on Ebay for about 100 dollars, good times.
 
So, I'm catching so far either standard medium ride or full ride...Good!

I hate power rides! :mad:

Hate 'em!
 
PhilGood said:
So, I'm catching so far either standard medium ride or full ride...Good!

I hate power rides! :mad:

Hate 'em!

Dont forget to try out the DE ride! Unless of course your cocnerned about price, in which stick with the full ride, MUCH cheaper.
 
PhilGood said:
So, I'm catching so far either standard medium ride or full ride...Good!

I hate power rides! :mad:

Hate 'em!

Me too, man. They have that real mid-range heavy "Klang" to them when you strike the bell....almost like a school fire bell.

As I've gotten older, and gotten away from the "power" stuff, I found that I tend to look for cymbals that will sound great in virtually any playing situation, and that's what I like about the Signature Full series of cymbals - you can cover a lot of bases and still have a really musical sounding cymbal.

I rmember years ago, I had an old handmade Zildjian K flat ride, and all these Jazz guys thought it sounded awesome. I hated the damn thing. I had bought a used drumset from some guy whose son had played in the 60's, and when i went to get the set, I got whole stack of cymbals (we're talking about 10 cymbals - a lot of Ludwig Paiste's (some were decent, some were utter garbage.) and the guy just threw the cymbals in because I bought his crappy Slingerland kit for $150.

So, I sold the K for a little over $100 to a local jazz player that I knew, and was happy about that!:D
The guy loved the cymbal, and I just saw no use out of it - sure I set it up on my kit, just because it looked cool to have that extra cymbal. I mean, my kit looked like Ginger Bakers with all of the "doubled" cymbals on the old time cymbal stands....remember those Phil? The ones that had the solid rod for the top shaft? You could put a cymbal on the tilter, and on the section below it.
BWahahaha!! If some of these young guys saw the shit we had for cymbal stands back then, they'd die laughing. Of course, I thought I was in Blue Cheer then (during the early 80's).

I remember I thought it was a big deal when I bought that used extra-hefty NORTH brand Hi-hat stand! :)



Tim
 
The one I like is the Paiste 3000 series, 22" Heavy Ride. The ping on the bell is very cutting and sounds great for any rock song. The overall wash is tallerable, it has a nice dry ping. It's a heavy cymbal, but for the price that It was sold back then is worth it. I don't think they make this series and it is hard to find out there.
 
coolsoundman said:
The one I like is the Paiste 3000 series, 22" Heavy Ride. The ping on the bell is very cutting and sounds great for any rock song. The overall wash is tallerable, it has a nice dry ping. It's a heavy cymbal, but for the price that It was sold back then is worth it. I don't think they make this series and it is hard to find out there.


It was folded into the 2002 line (The 3000 series replaced 2002 for a while, then they relabeled the line 2002 after the eliminated the 3000 line.)


Tim
 
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