opinions on Behringer mixers ?

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On the peavey thing, I've never compared them side by side, but I've found many problems with the peaveys or at least the unity series. Aside from feeling like its going to break under the pressure of you hand touching it, it sounds like crap. Yeah, the pres, eq etc. are very cheaply made, but what I've noticed most about them is the power, or lack thereof. When using all 16 channels, or 12 or whatever it was; it was the largest model, i found that when the (4) singers got to a louder portion of the songs, the board would do some funky things. It would basically lose control, sort of compressing everything down because it would lose power. And the wierd thing was that it would actually raise the level of the monitor output while lowering the mains. Maybe I had a wierd one, but I'd never buy one.

The other problem I've experienced with them is the faders are literally crap, not just the way they sound, but that they actually brake off! Upon further inspection of the broken fader, it's possible to see that there is only a very small piece of plastic holding the fader to the actual power bars. We lossed about six of them, and not due to missuse. I would not deem this a road worthy board at all.

Servicing it was a pain in the ass too, as all the components are on a single horozontally positioned circuit board requiring every knob, fader, and jack to be removed from the front panel. This also explains for the mixer's lack of a solid feeling, as this board is held in by little plastic brads, which are spaced out way too far in addition to being, well, plastic.

Maybe I've just had a bad experience with this mixer, as I've only used one, and never hope to use another, but I really doubt it.

-Tyler
 
Sorry you had such a bad experience with your Unity board.

My little Unity 1000 has been a real trooper for gig work for the 10 years I've had it. No broken knobs or wierd sound issues even using all the inputs at once (maybe my Carver PM-1.5 amp has something to do with that ;). Doesn't sound quite as good as the little VLZ Mackies but it was half the price with twice the mic pres.
 
I don't really like mackies either. Maybe I'm just spoiled. I'll shut up now. :(
 
Man everyone bashing Behringer I own a MX9000 and will not own anything else in the world I know that mixer inside and out and have used behringer gear for the last 5 years without a problem. Every mixer eventually has problems and if your budget isn't that hefty then Behringer is in my opinion the best for their price range...My first mixer was the MX2004 and I still own it as well as the MXB1002 which I use for a drum sub mixer
 
I said I'd shut up, but you've gotta fucking crazy, especially if you'd never own another mixer in the world. Best in their price range I'll give you that, but seriously, what else is there in that range?

Besides, I believe the MX9000 was one of their "weaker" models anyway. I'm not saying you couldn't "get by" with a behringer, but you seriously should consider other consoles. If you intend to remain on a low budget, a sound craft ghost ($7900) would be a good goal to shoot for, or if you're going to be more serious about it, maybe a trident 80b or c ($18500 and $21000 respectively). When your mixer costs less than a lot of your rack gear, that should tell you something, so I don't think either of those consoles are unreasonable, assuming the application would call for larger consoles, (I don't think that's what this thread is about but hey), and you aren't going to forget recording in a year. Oh and the behringer wouldn't even come close to matching either of these consoles in features or sound.

-Tyler

Behringer Bashing Forever!
 
Tyler let me restste I wouldn't own another console but u have to remember my applications are perfect for this console and I have used some very professional boards and yes they are nice but I'm satisfied with what I have now till I go full digital then I won't have that much of a use for a $7,000+ console...I dream to have a large console but space and funding are a major factor for my decisions and any good sorry Decent Tech/engineer can make any console sound great....I've worked in studio's where they had outdated gear and a console that out of 32 channels 16 worked and it made some exceptional recordings it's all an opinon and I try to offend noone as long as they don't offend me we're all apart of a wonderful gift to record great music and to capture the magic on a format that everyone can enjoy


Animal
 
For Christ's sake, Tyler, he was talking about a Behringer mixer, not an $8000 or so console from hell! I own a wicked cheap MXB1002 and have found it very nice for remote recording with a PXR4 Pandora, and it has, at least for a year, given me no trouble. It really doesn't distort badly if you don't crank it excessively, and sound quality is remarkeable for what it is. I can't complain. Of course, it's not in my studio signal chain at any time, nor would any cheap mixer be.
Cheap mixers=cheap preamps. In short, for a small home studio learning tool, a Behringer mixer can be a worthwhile purchase, and it may be useful as a piece of auxiliary equipment. I find mine useful for creating headphone mixes, again, not going to tape.
I wouldn't recommend it for hard use, or mission critical functions, particularly live sound reinforcement. In some ways, you do get what you pay for. I think a $120 Behringer mixer is worth $120. I think a $300 Behringer mixer is worth $120.-Richie
 
If you intend to remain on a low budget, a sound craft ghost ($7900) would be a good goal to shoot for, or if you're going to be more serious about it, maybe a trident 80b or c ($18500 and $21000 respectively).
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LOL!:D Yeah, when I think low-budget mixers I think Soundcraft and Trident.:rolleyes:

Oh and the behringer wouldn't even come close to matching either of these consoles in features or sound.
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No shit........
 
now being sence a can of worms were opened what do people think of a Carvin S/L 24, 40, 56 channel consoles...These are in the price range of behringer....I have always thought that a mixer is not the most important piece of gear in the studio it is 1 of the most but not the most...the Microphones I would say would be the most important followed by the recorder then Mic Pre's then the Console....because to capture the Acoustic sound you have to have top quality microphones...and in my opinion yes Behringer cannot compare to SoundCraft Spirt or Tac Scoripion (which I did own one of these) but My applications called for me to spend the most money on Mic's pre's and my recorder's.....I'm actually trying to look into eventually move up to the next level of consoles but I don't see the need to have a 7'1/2" console when all I use is up to 20 channels and no more....Granted I was spoiled by my Tac 32-channels but the behringer suit's my needs now
 
i've used behringer mx8000's and mx9000's.. i've also used 32.8's,soundcraft ghost32 even a ssl9000

no the behringer can't compare to the ssl's sound.. the ghost has it too.. but side by side if i record something with a 32.8 then a mx9000 you will not be able to hear the difference.. i tried to see if i can hear the difference.. westlake monitors,mackies,genelec,quested,adam,krk expose8 and some others.. i've played some of these tracks on all these monitors.. the only way i knew the difference, i wrote on the cd..

so many ppl bash behringer.. for the price its decent stuff to use.. don't belive it.. well i can use behringer equipment and you can use what ever you use.. and we both will be making music... thats all it about.. shit.. my shit might even sound better..i don't have any behringer stuff in my studio, though i was thinking about getting the MX9000
 
C-9, what you said is ture just because a company isn't of high prices or has all the options that another has it really is all up to a persons choise and you really can't tell the differences on the final recording and I have had no problem with my MX9000

Animal
 
The latest edition of Recording Magazine gave a rather favourable review of the new digital DDX3216 Behringer mixer.

Chris
 
ThunderMaker said:
C-9, what you said is ture just because a company isn't of high prices or has all the options that another has it really is all up to a persons choise and you really can't tell the differences on the final recording and I have had no problem with my MX9000

Animal
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...The Animal, grammar lessons he needs, think I...
 
My Behringer MX802a... :mad:

I purchased mine without thinking too hard about it (obviously). It's a pain! Channel 2 is real noisy, channel 5/6 the pan pot works the opposite of what it says. I use it because its what I have, but when I save up enough money...
I don't know if their higher priced mixers are any better, but their low end stuff is crap!

Vice
 
(not really adding anything usefull to this thread, just padding post count)

I own a MX2642 because I need 8 pre's, a small line mixer for source selecting and they dropped 50% in price just before the new series arrived. It's just too handy to not have one. Take it for what it is. For me it's just something to mix on while saving for a Ghost or comparable board.


Herwig
 
Good peeps like Chris T, viceversa and lucid have prevented me from opening my mouth and TOTALLY TRASH Behringer Mixers!!

I'll still keep my mouth shut!!!!:cool: ;) :cool:
 
MISTERQCUE said:
Good peeps like Chris T, viceversa and lucid have prevented me from opening my mouth and TOTALLY TRASH Behringer Mixers!!

I'll still keep my mouth shut!!!!:cool: ;) :cool:
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everyone is entitled to there own opinions. if you wanna keep your mouth shut do that.. if you wanna trash behringer for what ever reason..do that, can't no body stop you...

i've used behringer stuff that ppl just trashed, and figured they either had a bad experience, a bad product or didn't know what they were doing.. b/c with the same piece i ended up having very good results...
one of my last projects.. when i had the tracks mastered the guy was like this sounds real good.. "you guys did this in a bedroom? damn... must of had some great equipment"
and i let him know the preamp was a behringer t1953, a t1952 compressor, a behringer mx8000(32.8 look a like) a shure ksm44 and mixed on behringer truths with a event subwoofer... he though i was bull sh!tin. he was a person that never used behringer, just always HEARD they were crap. i took him to the spot and he said he was gonna get a mx9000 over the 32.8 he was getting for his small home studio and with that mx9000 he has some great sounding stuff..
 
I think that to an extent it's not what you have it's how you use what you have to get the best sounding recordings. I have been totally amazed at some recordings that came from a four-track tascam a 10-channel behringer board and an ART Tube pre..Once again I agree with C-9 and Tyler this is a forum not an english class grammer isn't really a necessity

Animal
 
c9-2001 said:
everyone is entitled to there own opinions. if you wanna keep your mouth shut do that.. if you wanna trash behringer for what ever reason..do that, can't no body stop you...

i've used behringer stuff that ppl just trashed, and figured they either had a bad experience, a bad product or didn't know what they were doing.. b/c with the same piece i ended up having very good results...
one of my last projects.. when i had the tracks mastered the guy was like this sounds real good.. "you guys did this in a bedroom? damn... must of had some great equipment"
and i let him know the preamp was a behringer t1953, a t1952 compressor, a behringer mx8000(32.8 look a like) a shure ksm44 and mixed on behringer truths with a event subwoofer... he though i was bull sh!tin. he was a person that never used behringer, just always HEARD they were crap. i took him to the spot and he said he was gonna get a mx9000 over the 32.8 he was getting for his small home studio and with that mx9000 he has some great sounding stuff..
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I'll put it this way;

I WAS and NEVER WILL BE a former Behringer Mixer
owner!!!!!

'Nuff Said!!!
 
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