oktava 012's vs. sp c4's

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which do yall prefer? i know you can get both of them to have the omni patterns so thats not an issue. from what i've been told you can get the o12s at gc for $99 a piece. and the oktavas have a major qc issue. but anyone got both of them at their desposal and compared them? maybe with drum oh's? which may be better with say...the rnp?
 
fwiw, i bought my oktavas from gc, 2 for $99 total. they sound fine :cool:
 
Forget the 2 for $99 deal – doesn’t look like it'll ever happen again. The only place I know of to buy Oktavas is either eBay or The Sound Room, both of which are more expensive, The Sound Room being WAY more expensive.

Originally Guitar Center was expecting Oktava stock by August or September, but now I'm told that Oktava has been dropped completely and will not be carried by GC any more.
 
Big Kenny said:
Randy, where do you place the mics?

I do the 3:1 setup when doing a strumming piece. If I am flatpicking, then I close mic just using one of them. If I do a 'slappy' piece, then I might use one or two, depending on how motivated I am....

If you want to listen to some clips, every song on my website were done with the MK-012's and either a Martin D16RGT or Gibson J-45RW.

www.randyzwitch.com
 
I own both the Oktavas and the C-4's. The 012's are becoming as scarce as hen's teeth. I do believe they will be back, but I don't know when or who will be selling them. They make more mics than they can unload in Russia, and the U.S. market has embraced them.
That said, the Oktavas are darker, more colored, and less accurate than the C-4's. They are really good overheads. I choose them for rock/blues, or anything where color is OK. I choose the C-4's on jazz,country, pop, or anything where I want more transparency. They are great on miscellaneous hand percussion. On guitar, I like the Oktavas on cheap guitars with no balls. They sound great on an Ovation. I prefer the C-4's on really good guitars, Martin, Taylor, etc.
Basically, if the guitar sounds kind of thin, the Oktava adds bass and presence and fills out the sound. They can make a great acoustic sound "processed". The C-4's are more transparent, and will reveal the fact that you are recording a cheap guitar. If the guitar sounds great to begin with, the C-4's won't change that. That is why the Oktava can actually be used for a vocal mic with a pretty good singer. Don't try singing into a C-4, unless you're a diva or a sadomasochist.
Don't misunderstand me though. The C-4's, although I like them very much, are not in the league with Earthworks, Neumann, Schoeps, DPA, etc. I do believe that they are the best small diaphragm mics overall for less than $600 a pair. And I'm pissed off about Oktava, because they were the best SD mic under $100.-Richie
 
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