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Hi,

Yeah... I found it was quite good. The instruments sit well in the mix and I love the sound you got on the cymbals (not that sharp sound what one gets only to often, but a nice warm sound, as if it had been through a tube amp or something...). Generally, it sounds nice and tight, just as it should... On the down side, it snare could be louder, and the bass a little quieter. Good work.

Oh, by the way mp3.com seem to have messed up the sound quite nicely: I got a bit a digital interference which I'm sure doesn't exist on the original! Is anyone else having this sort of problem?

SM
 
I listened to 'You in the Light'. I'm really fond of music that sounds real good at the same breaking the rules of commercial success. Top pop radio success turns on the formula of getting through the first verse or two and into the chorus by about the 30 second mark. I like the way the first vocals you hear are that indistinct chanting in the background. The doubled main vocals are a great idea - the vocals and the general feel of the tune are its strong suit I think. Who's singing? You? What mic and pre on the singer? Maybe the playing could be ever so slightly tighter. For a long time, I've wanted to play with a bass player who knows how to do two things: sit back and work the pulse, and then step out and solo like Phil Lesh of the Dead. But it takes someone who can really attack the rhythm to get away with it. I would really like to play bass on this tune, and I don't even play bass. :D Good work, shy person.
 
Yeah, thats me singing. What Mic and Pre do you THINK im using, hmmmmmm?:)

xoxo
 
Nice...I'd like to hear the "indistinct chanting" come up a bit...I liked the bass sound a lot...I don't have a clue about what mic or pre you used, but I would venture to say you were really close to it and singing/chanting at a low volume...heard the occassional "S" hiss....the only reason I said you were close to the mic is because I've done the same with a really cheapo mic, and it seemed to get a better sound with it...however the low volume singing I did at the same time lacked a certain energy......but this was a good sound you got regardless...gibs
 
I took a listen to "take a walk" I liked how the vocal sat in the mix, I think it need a little compression, or better yet, ride the faders when the volume jumps a bit. The snare definitly needs to come up a bit, the congas really lock the groove together and I would like to hear that a little better too. The rhythem guitar in the begining needed just a little space, I love that real intimate sound, but maybe just a little reverb or some different panning would open it up some more. The lead guitar tone sounded great, I have that little melody in my head now. Good tune, just needs a little tweaking. (don't we all)

-jhe
 
There's something about your vocals that is pretty damn cool. I've been listening to three songs over and over (You in the light, Magnum Butterfly, Take a walk), and I really dig some of the ways y'all sing.

Magnum Butterfly: @ 4:35, "..and I guess that that's okay." Very powerful. Something REALLY cool about it.

You in the Light: @ 0:07, that bass line needs that transition half-tone into tonic of next chord. It sounds all out the way it's missing right now. Awesome vocal style, again (muppets rapping?). Can dig.

Take a Walk: Can't stand the tone of solo guitar. Personal preference, but have to say it anyway. ANYTHING other than that tone would sound more appropriate, IMHO.

Still don't know what it is about your music, Camn, but I've been hooked for a couple of days trying to figure out why it works so well.

(please forgive the gripes).

uh.. XOXOXXO?
 
The cool thing about this place is the diversity of opinions you'll get...me and Kelly are about to totally disagree. :)

Listening right now to Take a Walk. I think the vocals are the weak point. NOT because you're a bad singer, but because it sounds like you're singing kinda half-ass at some points. Like maybe you're trying too hard to sing it right. I can tell that you have one of those voices that would make me jealous...but you need to move more air. Turn up the background music so that you're forced to sing louder. I think it'll really help. Think live music.

And I LOVE the solo guitar tone. Absolutely great. The rhythm guitar's tone was muddy though...kinda stepped on the bass and had a "cheap sound". And I think a bit more rhythm power underneath that solo guitar would help the feel (which could be really big!)

Another thing that made my ears happy were those breathy noises that everyone was mentioning. Pretty cool.

If you could get the extra percussion noises at around 4:10 to stand out more it'd be magic. I can't tell if the drummer was doing that or if it was bongos or what...but it sounded nice. You have a pretty good drummer man.

I also listened to You in the Light. Cool tune. Really nice percussion. The bass was kinda heavy and killed some of it though. Again I like the sort of background mumbling. The vocals were better on this one too.

Good work!

Slackmaster 2000
 
Great levels on those drums. The thump was crisp in my monitors. It made the crappy encoding bearable.
 
just so nobodys confused.. we have 2 different guys who sing. me, and ben. Bens the one who people get jeolous of.

THANK YOU you'all, and keep it coming.

xoxo
 
I absolutely love how "After All" kicks-in. It sounds like the drums might be hitting the compressor a little to hot in places. "Take a Walk" was catchy, but the kick kinda sounded like cardboard-- a little dead for my taste.

Just a few little things, basically. Definitely got that hippie-groove thang goin' on.
 
Thread from the Dead!

hehe.

Hey, camn. I seem to gravitate towards your stuff whenever I'm in Winamp, and recently had some ideas...

"Take a Walk" You know the guitar lead, how I was gripin' about it earlier? It's a good lead, just didn't like how high it was. Are you able to go in the studio and drop it an octave? Maybe double it, delaying the lowered double by 10ms or so. It would make the lead entry @ 3:47 more subtle, maybe approaching the tones you're getting around 4:13 (and I LIKE those!).

@ 3:10, you've got some cool background shit goin' on. I really like it because it kinda sounds like a car on wet pavement ("take a ride"). Also, those "wooden knockers" (no idea what they're called) sound cool, too. The "wet pavement" sounds seem to come in on downbeats after that--I found them a little distracting (in a "muddy" kind of way).

"You in the Light" Electric Rhythm has that lazy feel. cool. But when Lead comes in, it's lazy to Rhythm, which makes lead seem late. Combined, it makes a somewhat sluggish feel. From beginning of song, could you move up the Lead about 30ms?

@ 3:26, a second (higher) arppegiated lead would lend transition to that sudden WAH at the end of the phrase (and similar ones throughout the song, if you wanna).

One more idea: you've got three seconds of dead silence starting off the song. Have you considered starting the song with the "chBNGNNNnnnnhhhhhhh" of a flourescent light turning on? It might not be the sound I'm thinking of (you know, when the street lights come on, they make that sound). INDUSTRIAL TRANSFORMER is what I'm thinking of. Then song, fading out transformer (HEAVILY pre-amped). You might just mic the sound of a computer monitor "de-gaussing" (cross-topic-ing at the moment, hehe).


One more question: there's a heavy bass response in Magnum Butterfly, comes up @1:11. It seems to go away. Was that a room mic being moved?

That room you recorded it in: get some drum tracks from that room with those mics! I'd love to hear that "distant" drum song with tight electrics and those gorgeous vocals (both of 'em!).

I can dig this music, camn. You are my official house-cleaning music! Thank you!
 
Two things:

I bet you don't know how to do fluorescent lights, camn.

I bet kelly does.
 
HEY!

Goes a little like this:

HHHHhhhhHHHhmmmMMMmmMMmmMmmMmmMMMmMmMMMMMMmMmmmmMmMMmMmMmm.

Sometimes like this:

chBNGNNNnnnnhhhhhhhs

If a tube is burned-out, and you're at the dumpster, and you think it would be really cool to "Light-Saber" it against the corner, then it sounds like this:

swish-POP-"FUCK!"-tinkletinkletinkle-"damn! ow.."-thud, tinkletinkle.

I think we've ALL done that at some point. Thank God I wear glasses!
 
Hey Camn - I checked out a few, "After All" is the one I really liked. Sounds like the vocal went a little flat for a second on the chorus I think it was, (happens to me all the time) but I really like that heavyfunkygroove,.. yeah! Loved it.

Ray J
 
I used to make neon signs... so I know all aout big transformers................ but I definately cant write out the sounds like that! THATS expressiveness.

xoxoxox
 
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