New Song- "Taken"

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Sounds great from here!
Acoustics sound really full and big,right up there with the electric guitar,nice job.

Interesting tempo changes,very cool!

Thanks,
Pete
 
Love the sound, the guitars (aw man, the guitars RAAAAAWK:) ! ), your vocals, in fact: it's about the best things heard around here (not heard that much, I must admit)

Tight as a ducks ass man! :D

(hey, it has a very 'Thought Industry'-like vibe to it, do you know that band?)
 
WOW! Great! This is not a criticism. Your lyrical imagery is foreign to me ---which isn't bad; it's stimulating actually. But I would love to be able to read the lyrics while I'm listening.
 
No criticizm from me. Nothing to gig. That is simply outstanding. I'm EXTREMLY impressed. Really a progressive sound. Very tight performance. WAY cool.
 
SluiCe, I like this the way it is. I wouldn't add the pads. I think you'd lose something of the feel you've got going here.

And by the way, I know a seagull is probably not your dream guitar, but there's nothing else that can touch it in that price range. I've got two of 'em, and I played eveything else I could find before I bought these. And I didn't notice even one reply that said"good song, but it would have sounded better on a Martin".


Mary Poppins
 
I like it! The dryness of the mix works really well with this style. Synth layering may detract... also, thanks for your comments on my song!
 
Downloaded the song, and listening to it for the umpteenth time.

I love this I love this I love this!

You don't need to add anything: it sounds great the way it is. The dry recording quality is beyond cool.

One small criticism: the second voice at 0:44, it's kinda vague what notes you're singing here...if I were you I would sing that again and after that I would LOVE myself...
 
Thank you guys very very much. I read a few of your posts this morning and it put me in a great mood all day. VERY encouraging. Thanks!
I made a few quick fixes after work today. For one I gave the low end back to the guitars. As I listened on the way to work, I think I over cut them when the bottom got loose. I gave a little back. Also raised the bass about 0.6 db. I really feel it was all seriously lacking in bottom end. Hopefully I haven't over done that now. But I can always change it again eh? Also Pedullist was right on too with the harmony at :45 being vague...I heard it in the truck and cringed. I'm feeling better now that I'm back where I can change things. :)

And I cut some 1K out of the snare. This is a major area of concern for me, because I haven't yet developed my ear for snares...one thing at a time. Any help there is always welcome, oither than "Tom your snare sound sucks dirt. Pack it up and don't quit your carpenter job."

You guys rule.









jcmm- you're spot on with the upright bass. That would make me melt. I know what you mean by the shaker. I can hear that and a few other things in my head that would be cool in terms of percussion. I just don't want to do them on synth. I want the real thing. But I'm patient. :) I think. Also, I agree 100% about the bottom end. I took too much away...I'd like to know what you think of it now that I've put it back, if you have a spare 3 minutes and 2 seconds. Thanks man. You Are Worthy! ;)

mixmkr- That's a helluva thing coming from you. :) And I'm sure the other boys you mentioned appreciate it as well. I don't know what to say. Thank you. (And don't knock your stuff. It's quality.)

chrisharris- You're the one person who is not allowed to discuss drums with me.
Sorry.
:D

David- "World-wide." Wouldn't that be fun. I've decided not to play Matchbox 20 covers to do it though. What still amazes me is that for less than the cost of having a half-way decent CD produced, you can buy the gear and learn how to do it yourself. It's simply beautiful. Thanks again David.

fenderlikingood- Indeed...a real flute would be cool. I'm trying to stay away from synths on this one. Glad ya liked it Rick!

powderfinger- I've settled into a few habits when I sit down to work now. I can set up and break down really quickly and move through my software really efficianctly...so I get a lot done fast. But with every song I record, whether it's just a quick afternoon jam or a 3 day project, I always try some new idea with mic placement, or a new vocal tone, or whatever. And I try to learn that way.
Thanks for listening to it.

crawdad- no no...I didn't say this was a ruffie...but I am still working out my thoughts on it, instrumentally, lyrically, etc.
Synth optional. Just depends if you want any contrasting textures, which might open up new possiblilities in a couple sections.
Exactly my thoughts. The trick is how to bridge those sections once you've "contaminated" the arrangement with synths. They'd have to be very high quality samples to really pull it off. So I agree....less is more here. Thank you for the very kind compliments too by the way. :D And for listening.

dobroLately I'm beginning to detect a lot of parrallels in our musical interests, dobro. Or maybe you've just heard everything and I'm still just beginning to hear. Either way, I dig your music tremendously. And I'm always interested in the things you point out in my threads...because they're usually things I paid special attention to in recording them.
And at 3.02, it's pop radio ready. LOL
ya I'm sure they'll spin me right next to Britney Spears in heavy rotation. :D Thanks dobro.


fprod south- I'm easing into the Les Pauls there. If I start mixing them loud, I'll start to hear them as weak at any lower level. I want to hear how they sound after a few days now that I've raised the overall low end a bit. I'm paranoid. I may take your suggestion though...thanks for that. I hope I improved the snare too. I cut some 1K area. Ya don't get me wrong...the Seagulls are GREAT for the money. But with decent mics, you begin to hear the flaws more clearly. Thanks man!

erichenryus- hope it works for you. This may have a melody you can accept :) or maybe not... :(

dtb- dtb rocks.

muzeman- Glad you liked it Pete!

Pedullist- never heard of them Thought Industry. Cool name though. I'll look for some. I took care of that harmony....bad, bad, bad, bad... Thanks man.

davelivinstone- Dave I'll post the lyrics after this. Thanks for listening Dave!

Track Rat- Sweet! Glad ya liked it. :)

Mary Pop...I mean twist- You're very right about the guitar. I didn't mean to knock Seagulls. I had one a few years ago, that just had this warmth that I haven't found since. I thought I had it in this one until I miked it. Frustrated, that's all. I know it's not horrible. No you can't beat them for the money. Thanks for letting me clarify that. They're a great company. Thanks for checking another tune out, twist.

Noodlehoss- agreed. I think the synth would detract. Thanks for the input!


Thanks again guys! Hope they're weren't too many typos cuz I'm not gonna proofread all that. :)







I need some water.
 
sorry Im so late man.... I havent read through the replies yet...so at the risk of being redundant....... GREAT RECORDING...... ....AGAIN:)!! That groove at the beginning has kind of a greek'ish polka feel to it:D . You will never have to worry about being mistaken for anyone man... ...Your thing is "yours". ....Always sounds well thought out and calculated but NEVER restrained. After 3 listens, its starting to come together for me...... .....but it should take about 10 to start to "get it".

Nothing sounds out of whack in the mix to me. Very very nice recording.... I cant offer any advice that could be anything other than preference. ...and to be honest... I really wouldnt prefer it any differently. Very nice work man!
gw/5

btw: you mentioned that you have a girlfriend... doesnt she ever bitch about you spending every waking minute playing music? ...:D ..If she doesnt, I just want you to know that

I Love Her!!!! :D
 
Mike check your PM's brotha. I just sent you one right before I saw your post.

Thanks for the song comments bro. I'm relying more and more on images in the writing and playing. That's why it's calculated. I think about how to set the mood...like you would a movie score I guess. But when I'm playing it I try not to think too much. I can always retake it if it's too bad. That's where I want to be musically. And I want to be able to produce it myself and I want it to be the way I hear it. Ya know what I mean? Good fun. Very good fun. More in your PM...

btw: you mentioned that you have a girlfriend... doesnt she ever bitch about you spending every waking minute playing music?

You see that's just it. I'll tell you my secret to that. I don't really spend that much time playing music. But I spend a lot of time thinking about it. But she understands when I appear to be spacing things out. :) It's important not to think about music when operating a skill saw.
 
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..my problem is that i go in with the intent of getting something done..... ...come across something else i like...
.....and end up just jamming for 3 hours.:D :confused:
 
SLuiCe said:
Thanks Sam. Do you think I should add anything (making room of course) or go with just the guitars? Vocals were fun to do...I was exploring a bit, still am.
I wonder if I need to do something with the first verse to spice it up? What it sounds like I'm hearing from you guys so far is that the first verse kinda puts you off. Any suggestions?


I don't think it needs anything.. Yeah the first verse 'put me off' at FIRST.. not now though.. I don't think anything more needs to be done with this..

I feel like a butt-munch only being able so say 'I love it,' but fuck it! I do..

everything sounds mint to me!


I'll be posting something this weekend, and it sounds like shit to me now..
 
Dude, you have some very eclectic stuff. I've enjoyed it all.

I have to concur with Powderfingers comments. You've got this production style down pat. I'd be really interested in seeing you try something completely different.

One question, did you program your drums (i.e. MIDI) or are they various audio drum loops? Can't imagine it's the latter, since your music is hardly run of the mill. Either way, I think the drums sound great.

Nice job ...... AGAIN!!!!

BPOCO
 
Super recording and vocal. I'm constantly amazed at the talent... and the variety of music at this site.

Not really my style of music... but undeniably a super performance.
 
Sam- I don't care if you recorded it with a telephone mic...if you wrote it, it probably rocks. Hit Submit, light a bowl, and play some more tunes eh? :)
The reason was concerned about the first verse is, after MANY run-thrus it was becoming stale, and not just because of too many listens. I realized a lot had to do with the lack of low end. I posted quick fix with a low end boost in the gits and bass, but I'm still not sure it's enough. Time to rest it. :) Thanks brotha! Looking forward to the new tune this weekend!


bpoco-
You've got this production style down pat. I'd be really interested in seeing you try something completely different.
Me too. I don't listen to enough professional CD's anymore. If I have time to listen between work and recording, it's usually to someone from this board, which is good, but I'm missing out on some stuff.
In answer to your question, programmed note for note always. I couldn't make loops work with my ridiculous time signatures if I tried. Thanks for the interest.

kjam22- Thanks. :)
 
Yeah! Oh man this is a great song! Kind of has a mr. bungle feel or something.. Great mix - love the vocals!
You rock!

-Your fan
 
Another good one SluiCe....this is definitely your very own sound and I like it a lot. This one....that acoustic guitar parts are freakin' great! And you have a very idiosyncratic harmony you do that's really cool. Good work like always.

BTW......I finished the daughter demo so all my time is available for recording. i am going on vacation but when I get back on the 18th; the first thing I'll do is get to the passing.
 
Weird beat. Reminded me of one of those "Oi Oi", punk things :D Weird changes. Some spanish-guitar-like stuff there. Vocals are very good again. Mix is good. There are those Sluice-acoustic riffs that can't be mistaken for anything else. I love how you've achieved a style unlike anybody else. And for a bonus, it's a very good style also. I guess you could add something little to the "what did you expect" part. Make it a bit more rich and full with some keys or something. The 2:48 drum fill sounds too midi :D Work on that. The songwriting is great. Not for the standard radio-friendly listener, but it really pays off in the end to listen to this a few times.
 
great song(not like the boring mainstream radio s*t), great vocals, great guit work man!
it's that kind of song you have to listen few times to like it, then other few times to love it; IMO you could yell oftener like at 1:27..
cheers
 
I forgot I said I'd post the lyrics so here goes...



I confess I succumbed to temptation
Descending on me like raven
Was I blind or drunk on ambition?
A staggaring fool at the point of submission.
Maybe you could listen.

The moon was strong and the air so tempting
And the fix of her eyes said plenty
The palms of my hands were sweating
And the scent of the wine told me I'd be regretting
Something I was forgetting...

I will find a warm place
Where on my dying day
I will have my last dance
It's beautiful, but it's not romance.

Her eyes were like cries for her mother
And I swear I heard Cain begging God for a new baby brother

"What did you expect?
All your thoughts blow this way...
Only fools fly down here."

Yes I succumbed to temptation
Opened my arms to the raven
Will she fly away when he finds me?
Or should I be the first to flee for the lives I'd be saving
On her wings I am taken.

I will find a warm place
Where on my dying day
I will have my last dance
It's beautiful, but it's not romance.
 
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