cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
You're the one that started it. All I did was ask if you had used all three mics, and you got pissy about it. With that said, Good bye.DJL said:
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Jarrod Hyatt
New member
What is wrong with the B1 and the B3 not being similar?
Granted the B3 is a Mulit-Pattern, and the B1 is a Fixed Cardioid.
But from comparing both Mic’s I feel the B1 and the B3 are very similar in sound, and I prefer the B1 over the B3 personally my self.
Granted the B3 is a Mulit-Pattern, and the B1 is a Fixed Cardioid.
But from comparing both Mic’s I feel the B1 and the B3 are very similar in sound, and I prefer the B1 over the B3 personally my self.
Son of Mixerman
Mix Junior
What? Where is the MXLV67G? There cannot be a thread on mics and not have that as the gratuitous green offering of all budget LDC's?
Im still saving for the Shure KSM44
My SP B1 sure gets alot of work I didn't originally intend it to get.
Buying mic you havent test drove is risky at best, not every voice is the same and your reaction to it could be disappointing. I would say that you should buy a mic that is tube because you don't have one yet. The TB1 may be a bit muddy, but that could be good if your ears have been tainted with something with too much presence. My goal has always get different colors. Sometimes drastic colors so you don't overload the music with all white or all black. If the NT1 is bright and the C1 isn't much different, then the TB1 is the logical choice. Keep it. Add to it with something even more different down stream. Mic lockers are built, manicured and cultivated like fine spices to be used in musical stew. Ive never considered selling my 1/2" Craftsmen socket to have the 3/4".... I just bought the 3/4" to add to my tool box.
SoMm
Im still saving for the Shure KSM44
My SP B1 sure gets alot of work I didn't originally intend it to get.Buying mic you havent test drove is risky at best, not every voice is the same and your reaction to it could be disappointing. I would say that you should buy a mic that is tube because you don't have one yet. The TB1 may be a bit muddy, but that could be good if your ears have been tainted with something with too much presence. My goal has always get different colors. Sometimes drastic colors so you don't overload the music with all white or all black. If the NT1 is bright and the C1 isn't much different, then the TB1 is the logical choice. Keep it. Add to it with something even more different down stream. Mic lockers are built, manicured and cultivated like fine spices to be used in musical stew. Ive never considered selling my 1/2" Craftsmen socket to have the 3/4".... I just bought the 3/4" to add to my tool box.
SoMm
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DJL
Self Banned
Nothing is wrong about the B1 and B3 not sounding the same, or the NT1 and NT2 not sounding the same either.
But answer this... what's right about someone recommending a mic that they neither own, or used, or have heard?
But answer this... what's right about someone recommending a mic that they neither own, or used, or have heard?
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
I never said I haven't heard it. I've heard it on recordings I've downloaded here and compared them to recordings I've made with my B3. They're very, very, very similar sounding.DJL said:
Let me ask you this: have you heard a B1 and a B3 next to each other? Can you tell me that they're different? Every reputable source I've heard says that they're very similar and that the B1 is actually better than the B3 in cardiod (see Jarrod's post above). I think the B3 is great in cardiod on a lot of sources. Therefore, the B1 is going to be even better. All you've said in response to this (I've stated this many times) is that I'm deaf or full of s*&%. Well, do you have anything to back that up (like personal experience, or better yet, sound samples), or are you just talking out your ass?
Lots of people around here recommend mics that they don't own, Harvey Gerst being the most prominent example. My B1 recommendations are based on a mic that is very, very, very similar by all accounts. Why are you singling me out, King DJL?
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Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
hey , how about a Marshall MXLv67G
and cominginsecon, im gonna go ahead and quote a crazy once in a lifetime price of $99, sometimes as low as $80 new on Ebay.....
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91579
cis, are you really an asshole, or are you just coming across wrong?
and cominginsecon, im gonna go ahead and quote a crazy once in a lifetime price of $99, sometimes as low as $80 new on Ebay.....
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91579
cis, are you really an asshole, or are you just coming across wrong?
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
Why am I an asshole just because I don't like it when you post inaccurate prices? I guess I get sick of people misleading other people on this message board. If that makes me an asshole, well, whatever.Gidge said:
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
BTW, the way you did it in the post above was perfect. "Here's a crazy deal you guys should all get in on." not "The price for a v67 is $80."
Thank you. That's all I was commenting on. If you know about a really good, out-of-left-field deal, you should qualify your statement with that information.
Thank you. That's all I was commenting on. If you know about a really good, out-of-left-field deal, you should qualify your statement with that information.
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DJL
Self Banned
Jarrod Hyatt
While we have you here in this thread... you know many of your costumers own both the SP B1 and B3 mics like myself. So with that said..... and with your reputation on the line here.
Do the B3 and B1 sound the same... yes or no?
And I'm not asking you if the B3 and B1 sound similar (C1/V67G).
Do the B3 and B1 sound the same... yes or no?
I'll tell you right now... the B3 and B1 do NOT sound the same.
Also, "cominginsecond" is telling everyone (posting) that his B3 is just a B1 with extra pattens... did you or someone from PMI tell "cominginsecord" that the B3 and B1 sound the same?
While we have you here in this thread... you know many of your costumers own both the SP B1 and B3 mics like myself. So with that said..... and with your reputation on the line here.
Do the B3 and B1 sound the same... yes or no?
And I'm not asking you if the B3 and B1 sound similar (C1/V67G).
Do the B3 and B1 sound the same... yes or no?
I'll tell you right now... the B3 and B1 do NOT sound the same.
Also, "cominginsecond" is telling everyone (posting) that his B3 is just a B1 with extra pattens... did you or someone from PMI tell "cominginsecord" that the B3 and B1 sound the same?
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cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
Hi Gidge,
Sorry that I said you were "misleading" people. Wrong choice of words. I guess I would just take a different approach, but I still shouldn't have said you were misleading people.
Jeremy
Sorry that I said you were "misleading" people. Wrong choice of words. I guess I would just take a different approach, but I still shouldn't have said you were misleading people.
Jeremy
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
Here's another misrepresentation. The question should be: "Do the B3 and the B1 sound similar enough that, if you had a B3 and liked it, you could confidently recommend the B1 for the same sources?"DJL said:
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DJL
Self Banned
cominginsecond
Do you honestly feel you can confidently recommend a mic that you've never used?
Do you honestly feel you can confidently recommend a mic that you've never used?
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
cis,
Id still like to see a link where i did what you said......outside of the DMP3 thing, I pretty much always post a link with the price.....
and on the v67, i would posted the price as $80 if i knew someone right now selling it at that price new......
and im still waiting on a link to a thread where i did that...you MUST be thinking of someone else.....
Id still like to see a link where i did what you said......outside of the DMP3 thing, I pretty much always post a link with the price.....
and on the v67, i would posted the price as $80 if i knew someone right now selling it at that price new......
and im still waiting on a link to a thread where i did that...you MUST be thinking of someone else.....
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
It seriously isn't worth my time, so you win. You always quote the correct price, and when you it's a special deal or a haggled price you always say so.Gidge said:
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
Yup. Especially when the mic I'm basing the recommendation off of is generally considered to be worse than than the one I'm recommending. Especially since I'm fairly upfront about the fact that I don't own one.DJL said:
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Jarrod Hyatt
New member
DJL said:
Well, I have my own opinions, but I sat down this morning with Alan and the correct response is, "Yes, and no".
There is a similar sound between them in Cardioid, and depending on room and application, it is possible one could not tell the difference between them, but they are not totally identical. The reason for this is added electronics for the pattern control and the fact the capsule has two diaphragms. Which one is better is subjective at best.
Jarrod Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
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DJL
Self Banned
Jarrod Hyatt said:
Well, I suppose it is possible someone could not tell the difference between a Marhall MXLV67G and Studio Projects C1 either, even tho there is a difference.... so, I'll let you off the hook with your Yes/No answer. lol
I have the feeling you and or others from PMI and etc are trying to sell your mics here behind the lines with PM's and etc.... which is ok with me........
But, I'd like the know the following.........
Also, "cominginsecond" is telling everyone (posting) that his B3 is just a B1 with extra pattens... did you or someone from PMI tell "cominginsecord" that the B3 and B1 sound the same?
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
I did say that the B3 is just a B1 with extra patterns, but I now know that's not the case. The B3 is a mic in the same series as the B1, and sounds remarkably similar, to my ears. That's why I have no problem recommending them for the same sources.DJL said:
There. Can we move on now?
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
Oh, and BTW, no one from PMI told me anything about the differences between the B1 and the B3.
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Justin Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
DJL,
That is absolute ridiculous, no we do not solicit sales though PM or any other way and frankly I personally find that offensive that you think we would use such tactics. The "PMI Presence" on HR has dropped considerably, and will continue to do so. If you liked having manufactures representatives around to answer your questions directly and even offer advice from they're own experience, maybe you should try being a bit more cordial. These forums are here to help people and give advice, try and keep it that way.
That is absolute ridiculous, no we do not solicit sales though PM or any other way and frankly I personally find that offensive that you think we would use such tactics. The "PMI Presence" on HR has dropped considerably, and will continue to do so. If you liked having manufactures representatives around to answer your questions directly and even offer advice from they're own experience, maybe you should try being a bit more cordial. These forums are here to help people and give advice, try and keep it that way.
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